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    • Mahrez1980
    • By Mahrez1980 14th Oct 19, 2:08 AM
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    Parking fine
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    • 14th Oct 19, 2:08 AM
    Parking fine 14th Oct 19 at 2:08 AM
    PARKING TICKET
    CLAIM FORM RECEIVED
    Advice please
    Hi everyone I have got a claim a letter before court proceeding. I really need some advice please. I parked for 12 minutes and in a private land( A block of flats with parking ). I am a taxi driver. That was 12/11/2018, A friend advised me to ignore it as itís a private land and they canít do anything ( He mentioned heís got about 4 of them). He said as long as itís not an NCP carpark do not worry . Stupidly I took his advice on board and ignored it now I have some claim form paperwork from UK Car park management Ltd. I donít know how to send a picture on this forum.otherwise I would. The defendant wrote on the particulates of claim that. ‏ The defendant has failed to settle their outstanding liabilities. From £60 before, then £160,now they are asking me to pay £245.74.
    Iíve been introduced to this website to seek help from the expert or maybe from someone who had the same issue and now all the steps to follow.
    The same friend recommended this website apparently two of his cases were clear just because of this website. Below is all the letters I received with a date .

    1-UK parking management Ltd 8/11/18
    2-Trace debt recovery UK Limited

    3-GADSTONE SOLICITORS 6/8/19 ( letter before claim )

    4-GADSTONE SOLICITORS 6/9/2019
    ( letter before claim )

    5-claim form 9/11/19


    Would anyone please advise,
    On what to do please.
    Thank you so much in advance.
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    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 14th Oct 19, 9:08 AM
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    • 14th Oct 19, 9:08 AM
    It is not a fine.

    The advice to ignore has not been given here since the law change in 2012. I'm surprised a professional driver didn't know about this.

    Read the sticky thread for NEWBIES starting with the guide to court written by bargepole that you will find in post 2 of the NEWBIES. This has a step by step guide from the LBC stage to the day in court. Please read it thoroughly.

    When you do your AoS, do not put anything in the defence box, not even a full stop.

    Contact the landowner/MA/your fare and get a copy of the lease if possible that details parking terms for residents and visitors.

    Get pics of the site and signage.

    Read the Jopson vs Homeguard case where the judge defined parking as opposed to loading/unloading (which includes people as well as goods).

    Show us your draft defence when you are ready.

    You can show us redacted images by uploading them to a web hosting site such as postimages o tinypic or similar, then pasting the URL here but change https to hxxps first. Someone here will change it back to a live link.
    Last edited by Fruitcake; 14-10-2019 at 10:45 AM.
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 14th Oct 19, 10:40 AM
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    • 14th Oct 19, 10:40 AM
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    • 14th Oct 19, 10:40 AM
    The defendant has failed to settle their outstanding liabilities. From £60 before, then £160,now they are asking me to pay £245.74.

    You are being scammed by Gladstones adding on fake figures

    You are saying that the ticket was £60
    Please list their figures that add up to £245.74
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    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 14th Oct 19, 12:37 PM
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    • 14th Oct 19, 12:37 PM
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    • 14th Oct 19, 12:37 PM
    What is the Issue Date on your Claim Form?
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    • oldernonethewiser
    • By oldernonethewiser 14th Oct 19, 12:46 PM
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    • 14th Oct 19, 12:46 PM
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    • 14th Oct 19, 12:46 PM
    It is a shame that even the BBC can't be bothered to report them accurately as "charges" not "fines"


    Just shoddy journalism


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-50033861
    • Mahrez1980
    • By Mahrez1980 14th Oct 19, 3:15 PM
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    • 14th Oct 19, 3:15 PM
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    • 14th Oct 19, 3:15 PM
    Amount claimed £170.74
    Court fee £25
    Legal representative cost £50
    Total amount £245.74
    • Mahrez1980
    • By Mahrez1980 14th Oct 19, 3:16 PM
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    • 14th Oct 19, 3:16 PM
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    • 14th Oct 19, 3:16 PM
    Hi the issue date was 8/11/2018
    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 14th Oct 19, 3:22 PM
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    • 14th Oct 19, 3:22 PM
    Amount claimed £170.74
    Court fee £25
    Legal representative cost £50
    Total amount £245.74
    Originally posted by Mahrez1980
    Have they broken down the £170 charge as well? This should be capped at the original PCN amount, usually £100.
    I married my cousin. I had to...
    I don't have a sister.

    All my screwdrivers are cordless.
    "You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 14th Oct 19, 3:51 PM
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    • 14th Oct 19, 3:51 PM
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    • 14th Oct 19, 3:51 PM
    Hi the issue date was 8/11/2018
    Originally posted by Mahrez1980
    With a Claim Issue Date of 8th October, you have until Monday 28th October to do the Acknowledgement of Service, but there is nothing to be gained by delaying it. To do the AoS, follow the guidance offered in a Dropbox file linked from post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread. About ten minutes work - no thinking required.

    Having done the AoS, you have until 4pm on Monday 11th November 2019 to file your Defence.

    That's four weeks away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.


    When you are happy with the content, your Defence could be filed via email as suggested here:
    1. Print your Defence.
    2. Sign it and date it.
    3. Scan the signed document back in and save it as a pdf.
    4. Send that pdf as an email attachment to CCBCAQ@Justice.gov.uk
    5. Just put the claim number and the word Defence in the email title, and in the body of the email something like 'Please find my Defence attached'.
    6. Log into MCOL after a few days to see if the Claim is marked "defence received". If not chase the CCBC until it is.
    7. Do not be surprised to receive an early copy of the Claimant's Directions Questionnaire, they are just trying to keep you under pressure.
    8. Wait for your DQ from the CCBC, or download one from the internet, and then re-read post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread to find out exactly what to do with it.
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    • Mahrez1980
    • By Mahrez1980 21st Oct 19, 9:13 PM
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    Thank you for the reply
    Please bear with me as Iím new to this plus Iím just doing reading constantly and canít get it in my head properly. Can I please ask, do I have to ‏ Acknowledge the letter by signing into money claim.gov.uk, create an account then find a space where to acknowledge the claim form ? Thank u
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 21st Oct 19, 9:15 PM
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    Yes. You are so much better off if you simply read the NEWBIES thread though.

    It has a pictorial step by step link showing you in pictures what to do, for AOS.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 21st Oct 19, 9:21 PM
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    Thank you for the reply
    Please bear with me as I’m new to this plus I’m just doing reading constantly and can’t get it in my head properly. Can I please ask, do I have to ‏ Acknowledge the letter by signing into money claim.gov.uk, create an account then find a space where to acknowledge the claim form ? Thank u
    Originally posted by Mahrez1980
    But I've already said:
    To do the AoS, follow the guidance offered in a Dropbox file linked from post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread. About ten minutes work - no thinking required.
    Originally posted by KeithP
    Which bit of that are you having trouble with?

    But that was a whole week ago. Time is slipping away.
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    • Mahrez1980
    • By Mahrez1980 22nd Oct 19, 12:24 PM
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    Hi
    I’m filling the acknowledgment online, I created a Government get away account then went to the claim form. I left everything blank. Have 2 options whether to defend all the claim or part of the claim which one to take please? Plus they ask me whether I want to take the contest jurisdiction before click next.
    Please advise
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 22nd Oct 19, 12:51 PM
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    Hi
    Iím filling the acknowledgment online, I created a Government get away account then went to the claim form. I left everything blank. Have 2 options whether to defend all the claim or part of the claim which one to take please? Plus they ask me whether I want to take the contest jurisdiction before click next.
    Please advise
    Originally posted by Mahrez1980
    Again... those questions are answered when you follow that Dropbox link mentioned earlier.

    From that Dropbox guidance:
    Step 9: Defend all

    Do not contest jurisdiction this is if you live outside of the UK courts and want your local court authority to be used
    Please don't expect everything to be repeated especially for you.
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    • nosferatu1001
    • By nosferatu1001 22nd Oct 19, 1:06 PM
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    Indeed, if you cannot understand the clear instructions, please do so. But asking questions that are already answered, twice, doesnt endearr you to anyone

    You ha ve to do most of the work yourself, especially when it is procedural stuff like that.
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