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  • halight
    halight Posts: 3,629 Forumite
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    I'm not really sure the point , in haveing a rep that only come on here for five minuets every other day
    :jYou can have everything you wont in lfe, If you only help enough other people to get what they wont.:j
  • JS477
    JS477 Posts: 1,968 Forumite
    halight wrote: »
    I'm not really sure the point , in haveing a rep that only come on here for five minuets every other day

    For some unfathomable reason MSE seem to think that this is a worthwhile exercise however it's been IMHO quite the opposite and just shown up what Atos are really like in the real world. I've learnt nothing from this thread that I wasn't able to find from Atos's own propaganda website.
  • 1.
    How many claimants have committed suicide while under ATOS Investigation?
    or
    Within 6 months of being investigated?

    2.
    Why does ATOS ignore medical opinion from consultants, patients GP etc?.

    3.
    What qualifications do ATOS medical staff have in order to reach an opinion, without proper medical investigation?.
  • I have just checked the "Doctor" that it ment to be coming for my home visit on a website which shows a register of specialist and GP's i was just wondering why the "Doctor" that is coming to mine is neither a GP or a specialist as i thought they needed to be a specialist in different areas to perform the medical fairly???
    CashBack earned to date - £1244-58
  • Redman_2
    Redman_2 Posts: 31 Forumite
    edited 29 January 2013 at 8:59PM
    Hi fin7,

    if you have received the ESA50 questionnaire this will have been prompted by DWP sending a referral to Atos Healthcare. DWP determine a review period for each claim and will have sent us a referral based on that.

    This answer is incorrect.

    It has become obvious by reading posts from people on other websites that ATOS are sending out new ESA50's without the DWP instigating it, as the DWP have no knowledge of it, when inquiries are made.

    QUESTION to ATOS Rep :

    Have ATOS ever sent out an ESA50 to reassess an ESA recipient, without a referral from the DWP ?
  • Redman wrote: »
    This answer is incorrect.

    It has become obvious by reading posts from people on other websites that ATOS are sending out new ESA50's without the DWP instigating it, as the DWP have no knowledge of it, when inquiries are made.

    QUESTION to ATOS Rep :

    Have ATOS ever sent out an ESA50 to reassess an ESA recipient, without a referral from the DWP ?

    Yes so they can make even more profit from the sick and vulnerable.
  • FTW
    FTW Posts: 8,682 Forumite
    Hi ebsay,

    Some of our contracts with clients other than DWP require this level of security,


    Like who, for instance?


    and we follow one security policy across the business so that our staff can move across different clients and projects while complying with the appropriate security level for the client.


    You do realise that you've just contradicted your own comment?


    None of this affects an employee’s ability to whistle blow and make complaints though.

    Why wouldn't it affect their ability?
  • halight
    halight Posts: 3,629 Forumite
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    Nurse makes heartfelt apology after Atos forced her to trick disabled people out of benefits

    24 Sep 2012 00:01
    SCOTS nurse Joyce Drummond reveals how thousands of genuinely ill people were set up for a fall before they had even been assessed by benefits firm Atos.

    From the story,
    Joyce Drummond’s medical training meant she knew claimants were unfit to work.

    But she was told to mark people as fit if they could write or show up for an interview properly dressed. Eventually, Joyce was carpeted by bosses for being “too nice” to claimants.
    Joyce said candidates were marked down if they:

    *looked well-presented, with neat hair and make-up.

    *turned up with a toddler.

    *could sign the application form.
    Mum-of-one Joyce, from Mosspark, Glasgow, said Atos decision makers paid no attention to her professional clinical opinion and were only interested in cutting down the number of claimants.
    She reveals all the questions she was told to ask were loaded.
    “Once I realised how manipulative the assessment system was, I got out immediately. The stress of it all made me ill and I have not worked since.”
    But it wasn’t long before I realised no one cared about my professional clinical opinion. It broke my heart and I went home in tears every night.
    Joyce said many claimants were set up for a fall even before they came into her office in Cadogan Street, Glasgow.

    She said: “If they made it in by themselves, that was seen as a sign they could function
    They also had to fill in a form. If they did it, it showed they could think, write and were capable of managing.
    “We also had to assess their appearance. If a woman was wearing make-up and was nicely dressed, she was deemed as functioning and capable.
    “If someone had a pet, they were able to function and if they smiled while talking about a pet, I had to mark down that they smiled spontaneously and were therefore not depressed.
    “It was so unfair. There could be a very depressed or ill person sitting in front of me but on paper, thanks to the leading questions I had to ask, they could be judged fit to work.”
    “I never found out how the decisions went but when I was doing the interview, I knew what the outcome would be

    [QUOTE“Atos went by the philosophy that if you had a finger and could push a button, then you could work. Ridiculous.”][/QUOTE]

    [QUOTELast week, a Panorama documentary revealed that each week between January and August last year, 32 people died who the Government had declared could be helped back into work][/QUOTE]
    Appeals against decisions are costing the Government £50million a year.

    Atos have a £206million contract from the Department for Work and Pensions.

    =====================================

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/nurse-makes-heartfelt-apology-after-1340838

    Please go to link to read the full story

    ATOS REP,

    Is this the way to treat some of the most vulnerable people In the country ?
    :jYou can have everything you wont in lfe, If you only help enough other people to get what they wont.:j
  • halight
    halight Posts: 3,629 Forumite
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    The leader of the Scottish Parliament’s welfare reform committee pledged to dig deeper into the Atos scandal. Labour MSP Michael McMahon said: “There are serious questions about how Atos manage work and the growing reports of how they have caused distress to so many vulnerable people
    “Whistleblowers have an important part to play in showing just how these reforms are hurting those in genuine need. My committee will continue to investigate the workings of Atos.”

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/nurse-makes-heartfelt-apology-after-1340838
    :jYou can have everything you wont in lfe, If you only help enough other people to get what they wont.:j
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