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    • GreatApe
    • By GreatApe 15th Jan 20, 1:31 AM
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    Extreme life extension and it's impacts on the planet
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    • 15th Jan 20, 1:31 AM
    Extreme life extension and it's impacts on the planet 15th Jan 20 at 1:31 AM
    Extreme life extensions will happen within my lifetime I am fairly confident of this

    If life expectancy can be increased to 250 years that would mean a UK of 70 million will become a UK of >200 million just through births exceeding deaths and the planet rather than peaking at 10 billion will peak at 30 billion

    And there isn't necessarily even an upper physical limitation
    Long live mammals live 200+ years some sharks 400+ years and plants an order of magnitude more still

    With technology and bio engineering there is no reason to exclude the possibility of living as long as you want, hundreds, thousands even millions of years

    Do any of the projections done by 'the experts' have plans and predictions for extreme life extensions? Humanity will probably expand to be hundreds of billions just on earth
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    • agentk
    • By agentk 15th Jan 20, 4:59 PM
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    • 15th Jan 20, 4:59 PM
    Don't worry agenda 21 will sort it!
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    • JKenH
    • By JKenH 15th Jan 20, 5:14 PM
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    • 15th Jan 20, 5:14 PM
    We can all have a Soylent Green type future.
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    • elsien
    • By elsien 15th Jan 20, 5:28 PM
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    According to the bible our ancestors lived for hundreds of years. I tend to treat other such unsubstantiated "facts" with similar scepticism.
    Aside from which, going dolally at 90 odd then having another 150 years f being cared for wouldn't be top of my preferred lifestyle choices.
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
    • comeandgo
    • By comeandgo 15th Jan 20, 7:17 PM
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    Who is going to pay your living costs for two hundred years? I honestly believe due to constraints on planet Earth, ie food, water, space, the younger generation will decide to cull the older humans who have no use and are only using up valuable resources.
    I have just buried an elderly ill relative. I hope to goodness I don't have to spend my final years as she did.
    • agentk
    • By agentk 15th Jan 20, 7:40 PM
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    • 15th Jan 20, 7:40 PM
    https://www.google.co.uk/search?sxsrf=ACYBGNSNZbtIl8hIUad62xquc9-0AHisKw%3A1579116920255&ei=eGkfXpqaD-GM1fAP-Nms4Ao&q=agenda+21+population+control&oq=Agenda+21 &gs_l=psy-ab.1.2.0i71l8.0.0..7262...0.2..0.0.0.......0...... gws-wiz.a_s5sRYmvds


    A cull has already been decided.
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    • GreatApe
    • By GreatApe 15th Jan 20, 8:01 PM
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    • 15th Jan 20, 8:01 PM
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    • 15th Jan 20, 8:01 PM
    Who is going to pay your living costs for two hundred years? I honestly believe due to constraints on planet Earth, ie food, water, space, the younger generation will decide to cull the older humans who have no use and are only using up valuable resources.
    I have just buried an elderly ill relative. I hope to goodness I don't have to spend my final years as she did.
    Originally posted by comeandgo

    I believe in the not too distant future ageing itself will be cured
    You'd be in a 30 year old body forever

    If we stay as biology my guess is your genetic code will be rewritten
    So that your cells and biology simple fixes everything itself
    Lost an arm grow a new one
    Kidneys not doing so good grow a replacement internally let the other one be absorbed

    People would still die
    From accidents or through choice
    But most people probably 99% would just keep on living

    The birth rate would collapse as people can put off having kids for decades or centuries
    But the average women would give birth to many many kids
    Perhaps hundreds (over many hundreds of years) so the population would continuously grow

    Unlike many on here I'm confident this planet can accommodate at least a trillion humans
    Maybe even tens of trillions

    And if we go digital the number would more or less become limitless
    • GreatApe
    • By GreatApe 15th Jan 20, 8:11 PM
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    • 15th Jan 20, 8:11 PM
    According to the bible our ancestors lived for hundreds of years. I tend to treat other such unsubstantiated "facts" with similar scepticism.

    Aside from which, going dolally at 90 odd then having another 150 years f being cared for wouldn't be top of my preferred lifestyle choices.
    Originally posted by elsien

    Our ancestors did/do live for hundreds of years

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/the-strange-and-gruesome-story-of-the-greenland-shark-the-longest-living-vertebrate-on-earth/amp

    At some point in the future 'humans ' will live for thousands of years
    The only question is when, not if

    Even biology can survive for a few thousand years eg some trees
    That's probably not the limit of biology
    And then there is digital which will probably allow consciousness to be extended to billions perhaps trillions of years
    Last edited by GreatApe; 15-01-2020 at 8:17 PM.
    • elsien
    • By elsien 15th Jan 20, 9:09 PM
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    • 15th Jan 20, 9:09 PM
    Did you read the bit in the article that said
    "With the help of a mathematical model that linked size with age, they estimated that one sixteen-foot female was at least two hundred and seventy-two years old, and possibly as much as five hundred and twelve years old. Because it is difficult to establish background carbon-14 levels in the ocean, and because Nielsen and his colleagues didn’t know which part of the ocean the sharks had been born in, the figure was inexact. "

    So kind of maybe, maybe not?
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
    • Hexane
    • By Hexane 16th Jan 20, 12:05 AM
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    the bear AI will fix it all.

    True or false?
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