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    Pansy Potter
    Which woodburning stove is the best?
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    • 18th Jan 12, 12:05 PM
    Which woodburning stove is the best? 18th Jan 12 at 12:05 PM
    I have one woodburning stove and am about to purchase another traditional type design (not modern) about 10kw output. Interested in finding out which ones everbody rates as best and why. I bought my first stove about a year ago, it was very reasonably priced and has worked well so far, there are some expensive models out there and just wondered what everyones opinion is, do they really justify paying a premium price tag? There surely cannot be that much difference, they are hardly high tech???
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    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 31st Jan 17, 2:25 PM
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    Davesnave
    I have a Dovre Astroline 3cb and this thing kicks out a considerable amount of heat (10kw)although this is a big room with exposed apex. This is my first full year of having the stove and so far its cost me £600. All my wood comes from White Horse Energy...unless I acquire some.

    In my previous cottage I had a Town and Country stove and it was super efficient with a 5 kw output and kept the whole house warm. I would definitely have one of their stoves in the future.
    Originally posted by redlady_1
    Making valid comparisons depends on comparing like with like, or else introducing weighting to compensate for differently constructed property of varying internal volume and space distribution.

    This is what often makes anecdote so unreliable when it comes to stoves.

    For example, my 5kW stove seems to kick out more than the much larger one that sat there last year, but since it was removed, I've had new loft insulation and a DG conservatory added to the exterior wall of the room it's in. We also haven't had much of a winter so far either!
    'I've suffered for my music, now it's your turn.' Neil Innes, introducing 'Protest Song.'
    • redlady_1
    • By redlady_1 31st Jan 17, 2:29 PM
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    redlady_1
    I think what I am trying to say is I doubt I would have another Dovre (despite also having a Dovre 1800 in the living room which I love) but I would go for Town and Country again.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 31st Jan 17, 3:22 PM
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    Davesnave
    I think what I am trying to say is I doubt I would have another Dovre (despite also having a Dovre 1800 in the living room which I love) but I would go for Town and Country again.
    Originally posted by redlady_1
    I don't want you to think I'm having a go, because I'm not, but even with that one stove you've been specific about, there's the option to run it open or closed, which will affect performance.

    And then there are around a dozen current Town & country models, some of them probably too large or too new to be 'yours.'....but some radically different from others.

    Anyway they all get pretty good write ups and many view T&C as a poor man's Clearview!
    'I've suffered for my music, now it's your turn.' Neil Innes, introducing 'Protest Song.'
    • QB Wolf
    • By QB Wolf 6th Feb 17, 9:49 AM
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    QB Wolf
    Charnwood C5
    Dean Forge Dartmoor W5 or
    Burley Hollywell 5kw

    Advice please?
    Start Date 16/09/2015
    Original amount outstanding = 225,000 Current amount outstanding =199,812
    Original LTV = 64% Current LTV = 49%
    Original Pay Off Date = Sep' 36 New Pay Off date = Sep' 36
    Original Dly Int = 17.17 New Dly Int = 17.17 Total OP = £1319.31
    • A. Badger
    • By A. Badger 6th Feb 17, 7:35 PM
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    A. Badger
    Anyway they all get pretty good write ups and many view T&C as a poor man's Clearview!
    Originally posted by Davesnave
    'The sensible man's Clearview', surely?
    • sixtytwo
    • By sixtytwo 13th Feb 17, 7:49 PM
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    sixtytwo
    Villager Flatmate
    We bought a villager flatmate from stoves direct in June last year,Prior to buying this we used a cheap one bought from e bay no problems with it over the four years we used it.
    Had our fireplace made bigger with stone surround so thought we would buy a bigger wood burner.
    Researched wood burners and thought I had found a good reliable company so bought the flatmate £740..........didn't lite it until Sept and only lit small fires for a couple of months.
    This week now in Feb 2017 nuts and bolts started to drop of the front doors (the ones which hold the glass in) so I let them know about being very polite,and they told me we had caused this by over heating!!!!!!!!!!!! now seeing how we have a thermometer stuck on the flue and we never let it go over 200 thought it was a fob off.Also they would replace the glass nuts and bolts at our own cost Which to my mind would be a complete waste of money as it would more than likely happen again.We are retired and use the wood burner it is not an ornament..Our son works in engineering and told us they must be using very cheap doors for this to happen.
    Did not happen on the £250 we bought from ebay.
    • Greenfires
    • By Greenfires 14th Feb 17, 6:07 PM
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    Greenfires
    I'm afraid that nothing from Villager would be on my quality shopping list.
    • Lottie2
    • By Lottie2 18th Jun 18, 5:01 PM
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    Lottie2
    Dartmoor W5
    Hi Mrs Davo, Welshbird & alscrackers I'm also looking at a Dartmoor W5 & was hoping one or more of you could give some feedback on how you're getting on - user reviews are still very scarce.
    Many thanks
    Originally posted by Lottie2
    Went for a Dartmoor 5 with a back mounted flue because a W5 was too wide for the fireplace & the all of the plate is available for cooking plus stove fan. Like several others on the forum the stove is only used as a backup & after being away in the winter when it warms up the room faster than the gas central heating. Easy to light & clean though it did set all the fire alarms off the first few times it was used!
    • Crunchie81
    • By Crunchie81 13th Jan 19, 4:07 PM
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    Crunchie81
    Dean Forge
    Went for a Dartmoor 5 with a back mounted flue because a W5 was too wide for the fireplace & the all of the plate is available for cooking plus stove fan. Like several others on the forum the stove is only used as a backup & after being away in the winter when it warms up the room faster than the gas central heating. Easy to light & clean though it did set all the fire alarms off the first few times it was used!
    Originally posted by Lottie2

    Hi Lottie2,
    How are you finding the Dartmoor? Our local stove showroom stocks them and we really like the look. But like everybody else, we canít find many user reviews!
    • rrtt
    • By rrtt 13th Jan 19, 4:52 PM
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    rrtt
    In reply to sixtytwo -

    That's poor - in fact totally unacceptable imho - as far as I'm aware, you need a stove to burn hot on a regular basis (at least 400C) in order to prevent a dangerous build-up of tar in the chimney, which could cause a chimney fire. I'd certainly be pursuing a complaint - your stove doesn't seem, from what you say, to be fit for purpose.

    I have Woodwarm Stoves throughout my old farmhouse. The oldest is from approx 20 years ago and is 8Kw; the newest from 2014 are much smaller (think they're called Wren (?)) - have never had a problem with any of them, all are a dream to light and clean. The Wren controls are a bit awkwardly placed if, like me, you have a bad back though!
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 13th Jan 19, 5:05 PM
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    Davesnave
    The Wren controls are a bit awkwardly placed if, like me, you have a bad back though!
    Originally posted by rrtt
    They're the same as the ones on my stove, (Firegem) but being down, out of the way, at least the handles stay cool.
    'I've suffered for my music, now it's your turn.' Neil Innes, introducing 'Protest Song.'
    • rrtt
    • By rrtt 13th Jan 19, 5:10 PM
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    rrtt
    They're the same as the ones on my stove, (Firegem) but being down, out of the way, at least the handles stay cool.
    Originally posted by Davesnave
    Hi Davesnave

    Ah, yes, I have a Firegem too, in the study. Yes the handles & controls stay cool on those and the Firewrens (of which I have 3, one in every bedroom! ), but using the tool supplied on the old 8Kw one, I never got burned anyway, and my back didn't have to put up with the bending!!
    • oc75
    • By oc75 25th Apr 19, 2:16 PM
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    oc75
    Hi,

    I am not sure if any of you are still checking in on this forum.

    We are currently trying to find a multi fuel stove for a new build. The stove will be in an open plan area (kitchen & living area) with vaulted ceiling.

    The stove will need to have a direct air feed. We would like a traditional/semi traditional look with good viewing screen, probably with single door. I estimate we need an output of 6-8w.

    I've seen so many types and range of costs. There seems to be vast variations on the preferred type depending on what region you live in. Salesmen all promote their own and rubbish the others. Some would say that many of the bigger names now get their stoves made in China and those that are made in China are siubject to the same british standard or ISO as EU made.

    I've liked the look of some in the following ranges:
    - Henley
    - Premier
    - ACR
    - Stovax

    I am hoping that I wouldn't have to spend more than £1000.

    I don't want to buy a stove that will eat through fuel either.

    I would appreciate your steer - any specific recommendations that fit the bill would be great.

    thanks

    OC
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 25th Apr 19, 3:50 PM
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    Davesnave
    As before, I'm going to plug Woodwarm, still made in Devon, not Dingzou, but sadly not now available new at a sub-£1k level either, though that's what I paid for mine:

    https://woodwarmstoves.co.uk/

    very few people say seriously rude things about any of them. Designed by engineers, they sometimes look like it too, but that's part of the charm. I just appreciate no glass cleaning, instant controllability and no need to use a stove glove.
    'I've suffered for my music, now it's your turn.' Neil Innes, introducing 'Protest Song.'
    • A. Badger
    • By A. Badger 25th Apr 19, 5:41 PM
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    A. Badger
    Hi,

    I am not sure if any of you are still checking in on this forum.

    We are currently trying to find a multi fuel stove for a new build. The stove will be in an open plan area (kitchen & living area) with vaulted ceiling.


    OC
    Originally posted by oc75

    The first thing I would say is check your requirements carefully. I have a stove in a large inglenook which is in a kind of open plan room. The house is also very old and leaks heat like a sieve - as a consequence all the guesstimates by suppliers about the size of stove I would need were wrong. I ended up buying a 14kw (nominal) stove and there are times when I need that. Their estimates were nearer the 6-8kw mark which would have been completely useless in this application.

    Your comment about stove retailers reminds me of the rows we used to have on this forum when I said something along the lines of 'horse traders and cattle thieves must look up to stove retailers as masters of the trade' - and it sounds like it is still as true. I was being told the same rubbish ten years ago.

    What is interesting is that several (perhaps even most) of the stoves brands you name I have never even heard of. That suggests we have had a lot of new entrants piling into this colour supplement 'lifestyle' market - and, yes, very probably buying in cheap imported stoves along the way.

    For that reason I would go with an established brand, not least because you may on e day need spares and I doubt many of these new suppliers will stay the course and still be there when you need them. Davesnave's advice is good - Woodwarm has a splendid reputation, as has Charnwood, another British manufacturer. Stovax has been around a while, but I have no experience of their stoves, so can't comment.


    Do your calculations carefully and stick to a trusted brand would be my advice. I hope that is at least a little help.
    • rrtt
    • By rrtt 25th Apr 19, 9:27 PM
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    rrtt
    Agree with Davesnave and A.Badger. Woodwarm for me all day every day, a small "old-fashioned" (in the best possible way) firm who do actually care and will talk with you on the phone as one human to another, without being or sounding like a call centre.

    It's also a good idea to get to know a good local stove repair and servicing shop even if you don't buy one from them - all stoves should be serviced annually, & will need occasional new ropes, glass door etc.
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