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    • palapala
    • By palapala 22nd Oct 19, 4:18 PM
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    House on Rightmove. How Bad is it Really?
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    • 22nd Oct 19, 4:18 PM
    House on Rightmove. How Bad is it Really? 22nd Oct 19 at 4:18 PM
    Hi I am new to the forum, hope this kind of thing is acceptable

    seen a house online which is quite a drive away, can anyone give me advice on just how bad this place is likely to be inside? am i wasting my time
    I called the estate agent they told me it has had a leak thats all she told me, its not a repossession. Im not allowed to post links yet but:
    rightmove main URL then /property-for-sale/property-85359692.html


    Id expect to do cosmetic renovation, but really only want to spend 10k max. The bathroom and kitchen look ok, which Ive heard is the expensive parts
    Last edited by palapala; 22-10-2019 at 4:26 PM.
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    • need an answer
    • By need an answer 22nd Oct 19, 4:21 PM
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    • need an answer
    • By need an answer 22nd Oct 19, 4:22 PM
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    • 22nd Oct 19, 4:22 PM
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    • 22nd Oct 19, 4:22 PM
    I suppose the question is ,what is your budget to renovate it fully?
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    • palapala
    • By palapala 22nd Oct 19, 4:23 PM
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    • 22nd Oct 19, 4:23 PM
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    • 22nd Oct 19, 4:23 PM
    I suppose the question is ,what is your budget to renovate it fully?
    Originally posted by need an answer

    max budget is 90, would like to spend 10k max really. The bathroom and kitchen look ok so i was hoping it wouldn't need too much spending on it. The walls do look odd, but im inexperienced. Will edit first post to explain this
    Last edited by palapala; 22-10-2019 at 4:27 PM.
    • oozle1989
    • By oozle1989 22nd Oct 19, 4:27 PM
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    • 22nd Oct 19, 4:27 PM
    You can clearly see the sort of condition the house is in from the photos. Its a renovation job.

    Whether its just cosmetic or theres other non-visible issues we cannot tell you. You'd need a surveyor or someone who was gifted in that area to look at the property i.e. a builder.
    • need an answer
    • By need an answer 22nd Oct 19, 4:29 PM
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    • 22nd Oct 19, 4:29 PM
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    • 22nd Oct 19, 4:29 PM
    is it number 20?

    if so something major has happened to it in 4 years, in 2015 they listed it on RM with a reasonable set of pictures....something then happened....
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    • palapala
    • By palapala 22nd Oct 19, 4:30 PM
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    • 22nd Oct 19, 4:30 PM
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    • 22nd Oct 19, 4:30 PM
    You can clearly see the sort of condition the house is in from the photos. Its a renovation job.

    Whether its just cosmetic or theres other non-visible issues we cannot tell you. You'd need a surveyor or someone who was gifted in that area to look at the property i.e. a builder.
    Originally posted by oozle1989

    renovation job doesnt explain anything its a blanket term
    Last edited by palapala; 22-10-2019 at 4:34 PM.
    • spadoosh
    • By spadoosh 22nd Oct 19, 4:30 PM
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    Looking at the sold prices of other properties on the same road im going to say it needs at least 30k worth of work.

    Starting with the roof. Theres clearly something leaking, roof doesnt look that bad so at a minimum, replacement guttering.
    Youre probably replastering the ceilings of most rooms.
    Every chance the plaster on the walls will disintegrate when you start decorating so expect to replaster it just looks like a very wet house.

    Cosmetically you need to thinking about replacing the bathroom and kitchen.

    Before you do that youd need to look at the damp proofing because the bathroom and kitchen have problems with damp and mould, not surprising in a basement, can be an expensive problem to solve.

    Dont know if youre wasting your time. Depends on how good you are at doing work, how much it will actually cost and the likelihood of finding something else in equivalence.
    Don't be angry!
    • Skiddaw1
    • By Skiddaw1 22nd Oct 19, 4:38 PM
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    • 22nd Oct 19, 4:38 PM
    renovation job doesnt explain anything its a blanket term
    Originally posted by palapala

    True, but I can see where oozle is coming from. To me, the pics indicate it's going to potentially cost significantly more than 10k to set things to rights. And until you've had a full structural survey undertaken you're just not going to know anything for certain.



    Not a house purchase to rush into I think.....
    • palapala
    • By palapala 22nd Oct 19, 4:40 PM
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    is it number 20?

    if so something major has happened to it in 4 years, in 2015 they listed it on RM with a reasonable set of pictures....something then happened....
    Originally posted by need an answer

    Yes its 20. Thanks thats interesting


    Looking at the sold prices of other properties on the same road im going to say it needs at least 30k worth of work.

    Starting with the roof. Theres clearly something leaking, roof doesnt look that bad so at a minimum, replacement guttering.
    Youre probably replastering the ceilings of most rooms.
    Every chance the plaster on the walls will disintegrate when you start decorating so expect to replaster it just looks like a very wet house.

    Cosmetically you need to thinking about replacing the bathroom and kitchen.

    Before you do that youd need to look at the damp proofing because the bathroom and kitchen have problems with damp and mould, not surprising in a basement, can be an expensive problem to solve.

    Dont know if youre wasting your time. Depends on how good you are at doing work, how much it will actually cost and the likelihood of finding something else in equivalence.
    Originally posted by spadoosh

    Thank you for such an in depth reply. I didnt want this much work being a FTB and having so little experience. This is pretty much what I wanted to find out and can conclude that I am indeed wasting my time. The saving grace of kitchen and bathroom being put into question just solidifies my fears. Thanks very much for your help!
    • spadoosh
    • By spadoosh 22nd Oct 19, 4:58 PM
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    is it number 20?

    if so something major has happened to it in 4 years, in 2015 they listed it on RM with a reasonable set of pictures....something then happened....
    Originally posted by need an answer
    Ooo wow yeah!

    https://www.zoopla.co.uk/property-history/20-johns-terrace/tonmawr/port-talbot/sa12-9ur/35577599

    Serious issues with water penetration in that house.
    Don't be angry!
    • Grenage
    • By Grenage 22nd Oct 19, 5:11 PM
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    It doesn't look that bad, from the photographs...
    • Owain Moneysaver
    • By Owain Moneysaver 22nd Oct 19, 5:29 PM
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    The kitchen and bathroom are the cheap bits to be replaced. They were cheap to start with.

    There's a reason why that house is one of the cheapest 3-beds within 5 miles even in an area with quite a lot of manky houses.

    Even if you got a builder/surveyor to look at it for you it would come with no guarantees. Could be 20k for retanking the basement alone.

    There are a couple of reasonable 3-beds on at 90k within 5 miles, try offering 85k for them and you may be lucky and have a few quid left in reserve.
    A kind word lasts a minute, a skelped erse is sair for a day.
    • Owain Moneysaver
    • By Owain Moneysaver 22nd Oct 19, 5:31 PM
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    It doesn't look that bad, from the photographs...
    Originally posted by Grenage
    No, but it doesn't look like just a leaky roof or leaky walls or leaky floors or leaky basement or leaky plumbing.

    It could be all of them.
    A kind word lasts a minute, a skelped erse is sair for a day.
    • suki1964
    • By suki1964 22nd Oct 19, 5:38 PM
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    Looking at the previous pictures, it looks like someone else bought it as a doer upper thinking just cosmetic, and gave up
    if you lend someone 20 and never see that person again, it was probably worth it
    • GDB2222
    • By GDB2222 22nd Oct 19, 6:27 PM
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    Two comments:

    As a man of a certain age, I need to get up to pee during the night. Having the bathroom two floors away would make it completely out of the question. Short of losing one of the bedrooms, there's nothing to be done about that.

    The redeeming feature is the fantastic view.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
    • GDB2222
    • By GDB2222 22nd Oct 19, 6:29 PM
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    Oh, and you could try a cheeky offer at 50k, which would leave you a decent amount to spend on the place.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
    • coffeehound
    • By coffeehound 22nd Oct 19, 6:42 PM
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    The chimney stack was removed after the 2014 pictures
    • silvercar
    • By silvercar 22nd Oct 19, 7:52 PM
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    What you can't see in those pictures is the stink. Port Talbot is known for its smell of burning sulphur.
    • Alan2020
    • By Alan2020 22nd Oct 19, 10:39 PM
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    I don’t like it, what view, just a stretch of pylons. Looks like on a cliff edge and looks like a big bills. But then each to their own
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