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PCN @ High Point Village - Hayes & Harlington, London
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The adjudicator made their decision:
The Appellant should understand that the Adjudicator is not in a position to give legal advice to either of the parties but they are entitled to seek their own independent legal advice. The Adjudicator!!!8217;s role is to consider whether or not the parking charge has a basis in law and was properly issued in the circumstances of each individual case. In all Appeals the Adjudicator is bound by the relevant law applicable at the time and is only able to consider legal challenges and not factual mistakes nor extenuating or mitigating circumstances. Throughout this appeal the Operator has had the opportunity consider all points raised and could have conceded the appeal at any stage. The Adjudicator who deals with this Appeal is legally qualified and each case is dealt with according to their understanding of the law as it applies and the legal principles involved. A decision by an Adjudicator is not legally binding on an Appellant who is entitled to seek their own legal advice if they so wish. The Hayes development has been ongoing for some time now, and looks likely to continue for some time into the future. I have dealt with numerous appeals regarding this site. At the entrance to the site there is a large sign on the left stating that there is no stopping, waiting, dropping or collecting outside of marked bays. The roadway is marked with large lettering NO DROP & COLLECTION and PRIVATE ROAD. The bays along the side are clearly marked and are specifically for waiting, dropping or collecting as they have a time limit of 20 minutes. The photographic evidence shows the appellant's vehicle stopped outside of a marked bay, albeit very briefly, and a passenger getting into the vehicle. This is in contravention of the terms. As much as one may have sympathy with the appellant regarding the short length of time the vehicle was on this site, nevertheless the parking charge was properly issued. This appeal is therefore dismissed.
Do I have a chance if I leave it as it is and wait for the letter from court ?
Thanks,
Casper0 -
My post #30 to a tee! I won't say 'I told you so'.
Just sit back and see what PCM (UK)'s next move is. Surely you don't want to pay them?
Ye Gods, this is the outfit you're dealing with - making it all up as they go along. All recorded by the BBC's Watchdog programme!
http://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2015/05/is-it-pcm-uk-who-make-up-stuff-all-time.htmlPlease note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street0 -
Do I have a chance if I leave it as it is and wait for the letter from court ?
Hahaha, obviously yes.
IAS was just a exercise to put PCM through and to see their hand, and to try and see if this could be a rare case cancelled. Instead you got a typical biased and bizarre decision which gives no thought to whether a contract can be formed when no parking licence was offered, and just says 'I've seen this site before and it's fine, get lost!'
So what, nothing has changed and we still see 99% wins when defending these cases, especially easy to show PCM as predatory.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Forum Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD0 -
At bit off the wall but why not SAR the IAS. If they claim "legal privilege" go back and say that as the adjudication is not signed, or the person identified as being legally qualified, then you'll challenge this at the ICO.0
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Hi all, thanks for the feedback and support.
After reviewing your comments, I decided to take a very simple action now...... to wait and see what happens next. I already got a note from PCM that because of the IAS decision, the fine has to be paid in full, so no "discount" , and the fine used to be 60£, but now its the full amount 100£.
I don't want to pay it obviously and will wait for what happens next... I will report back when anything new comes up.
Take care by then...0 -
Hi all, thanks for the feedback and support.
After reviewing your comments, I decided to take a very simple action now...... to wait and see what happens next. I already got a note from PCM that because of the IAS decision, the fine has to be paid in full, so no "discount" , and the fine used to be 60£, but now its the full amount 100£.
I don't want to pay it obviously and will wait for what happens next... I will report back when anything new comes up.
Take care by then...
Take no notice of PCM and the scam IAS
Just wait .... no doubt you will be blasted by moron
debt collectors which you must treat as a huge joke
and ignore them, powerless sewer life who love
to waste their time
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=74633409#post746334090 -
I've been in a similar situation today. I've been fined for dropping my wife and 4 year old daughter at high point village soft play area for a kids birthday party.
I'm going to pay for it to avoid the hassle, however not impressed that they the attendant took a full picture of my 4 year old daugher which is availale under their portal evidence section. Is this compliant/legal to take a child's picture in public and posting on such site?
Many thanks,
Ash.0 -
ashleyransoo wrote: »I've been in a similar situation today. I've been fined for dropping my wife and 4 year old daughter at high point village soft play area for a kids birthday party.
I'm going to pay for it to avoid the hassle, however not impressed that they the attendant took a full picture of my 4 year old daugher which is availale under their portal evidence section. Is this compliant/legal to take a child's picture in public and posting on such site?
Many thanks,
Ash.
If you have concerns about Privacy, but not about parking, then perhaps a forum like LegalBeagles would be a better place to seek advice.0 -
ashleyransoo wrote: »I'm going to pay for it to avoid the hassle, however not impressed that they the attendant took a full picture of my 4 year old daugher which is availale under their portal evidence section. Is this compliant/legal to take a child's picture in public and posting on such site? Many thanks,
Ash.
I can understand your concerns. I don't know if it's legal but it is certainly bad practice. The parking companies couldn't give two hoots as long as they keep the money rolling in and paying up will just encourage them.0 -
however not impressed that they the attendant took a full picture of my 4 year old daugher which is availale under their portal evidence section.
I wonder what she might say in years to come about her daddy's protection?Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street0
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