Universal JObmatch

xapprenticex wrote: »

You are correct in a way, they exist to get you off JSA and into a job.

You dont HAVE to apply through UJM, you can use reed (which tbf, has just as many fake jobs) and make a note of the job you applied for in the notes section of UJM, it was intended to be a way of keeping track of everything through the website and saving on handing out paper.

And a way of trying to control people's lives.

xapprenticex wrote: »

of course!! And so it should be. Remember, you went to them, they didnt go to you. we all know what we are signing up for::

money
rent
council tax
prescription
dental

In return you play ball with DWP. and get a job asap, even if its something you dont really want (all explained before you sign that contract in return for money).

an employer controls your life to a greater degree when you think about it, but jsa and co is usually looked at as something we are just entitled to, not something we have to earn or at least 'do something' for. if it gets bad, you can always walk away from it.

In my case its Money only £73.10 per week. Don't qualify for anything else. Why shouldnt your average person be able to claim the normal 6 months jsa without getting grief from the Job centre plus staff and forced to jump through hoops. You are entltled to it !!!!!!. Thats what you pay NI contributions for isnt it to insure against being genuinely unemployed

You should also be entitled to look for employment in your recognised field of work for these 6 months and not forced to apply for anything

It reminds me of all these high cost insurance policies you have to fork out every year and when you need to claim, you are refused payment on a small technicality

xapprenticex wrote: »

Doesn't work like that, i think you have the initial 6 month thing confused, all that period allows is for you to get JSA regardless of how much money you have in the bank.

as for the rest, contact you MP and get yourself into a position of influence or fall in line. harsh but its the truth.

It should work like that for claimants basic jsa. Nothing else like rent etc. As I said you have paid into the system with your contribution based ni payments that cover this type of thing occurring. You should not get any grief from job centre staff or forced to jump through their hoops.

theoretica wrote: »

Very similar - insurers need to balance what they take in and what they pay out. If they paid out without trying so hard to keep claims low they would need to raise charges. If you want insurance which will pay out for 6 months of unemployment without pressurising you into getting a job, any job, you would need to pay much more for it - or self insure, by accumulating 6 months of savings. Most people don't feel they want to or can do this so need to put up with the rules of the bare minimum scheme (JSA).

So why are we paying Ni contributions as that is what payment from Jsa comes from. If it isnt for this then our ni payments should be lower.

You are obviously entitled to the 73.10 per week as you have satisfied the critetia of paying adequate ni contributions for part 2 tax years. Why should you be forced to jump through hoops and not look for work in your specialised area.

xapprenticex wrote: »

You are forgetting about state pension.

Also some NI goes to the NHS.