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    • Oldman
    • By Oldman 18th Jul 19, 5:37 PM
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    Amazon Prime
    • #1
    • 18th Jul 19, 5:37 PM
    Amazon Prime 18th Jul 19 at 5:37 PM
    First, hopefully, this is on the right Forum
    Now I am not sure if this affects just me or many.

    It seems that every time I buy an item on Amazon, whether it is a 99p book for my kindle, or a £50 purchase, whatever, I am automatically forced to join Prime.
    Three times this year, on checking my credit card bill, I find entries for Amazon Prime. Now I know this is 'only' £7.99 a month, but as I do not use Amazon enough to benefit from this, it is £96 a year out of a small pension. Every time I use the chat service, the agent agrees that I have not specifically ordered Prime and cancel the subscription, only to find it back on two months later.
    I was told this time that it was due to a "systems error", and I would receive the full refund in 5-7 working days.
    Is anyone else going through this ritual trauma?
    Thanks
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    • letsbehonest
    • By letsbehonest 13th Oct 19, 10:46 AM
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    I too have had these problems it is a sneaky way Amazon operate I'm afraid, I claimed back £150 back for two years of Prime I did not know I had. Even now when I buy from Amazon I check every tick box before I purchase just to be sure and on occasions they still try it on and sign me up for Prime.
    "Imagination is more Important than knowledge"
    • tgon
    • By tgon 14th Oct 19, 1:53 PM
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    ...I check every tick box before I purchase just to be sure and on occasions they still try it on and sign me up for Prime.
    Originally posted by letsbehonest
    Which is generally good advice for any online purchases - donít pay until youíre confident youíre getting only what you went there to buy! Up-selling at the checkout was common practice long before the internet (e.g. extended warranty, stamps, discount cards, etc).

    I have Amazon Prime by choice but still get tired of the ďadsĒ.
    • BoGoF
    • By BoGoF 14th Oct 19, 2:28 PM
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    Just a thought.....if they are so sneaky, underhand, etc etc - why do you still give them your custom?
    • cajef
    • By cajef 14th Oct 19, 3:00 PM
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    I Even now when I buy from Amazon I check every tick box before I purchase just to be sure and on occasions they still try it on and sign me up for Prime.
    Originally posted by letsbehonest
    Well I have been buying from Amazon for years and they have never ever tried to sign without me knowing or actually signed me up for Prime on any occasion.

    I do use free trials of Prime when offered but always make sure they are cancelled before they start to charge.
    I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.
    • Peanut8472
    • By Peanut8472 19th Oct 19, 8:47 AM
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    I completely agree. Both I and my partner have been caught out by their checkout page....only once mind! But surely that's why it's been designed that way?

    Of course then there is the delivery selection, where they try to sucker you again, by offering more than 1 'Free delivery' option, one of which actually signs you up to Prime! Made worse, if you've bought multiple items from different sellers!

    However, as previously illustrated, i'm sure Prime suits some people. If for some reason they are housebound. Or perhaps they have no car, and they aren't in close proximity to suitable shops. Or ...maybe they just cant find the energy to go shopping.

    But to use that as an excuse to demonize anyone who points out something from which a number of people have obviously suffered, ....what can i say, naughty naughty, very naughty.
    • JJ Egan
    • By JJ Egan 19th Oct 19, 1:19 PM
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    Are you not doing the same in demonizing those who are Not housebound or have no car etc . But manage to use Amazon multiple times without getting this ( i did not sign up to prime problem ).


    PS a lot of stuff on Amazon cannot be purchased through what you call shops , about 70% of my orders fit that category .
    Last edited by JJ Egan; 19-10-2019 at 3:07 PM.
    • hareng
    • By hareng 19th Oct 19, 3:44 PM
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    Rarely use Amazon think last time was 4 months ago until 3 days ago.


    I was offered free 30 day trial and knew what i was signing up for. Goods came next day, return process was collected yesterday, i still have Prime and its far superior to Netflix in picture quality and choosing what to watch.
    Will be cancelling in 25 days after having a purge on better Series Amazon offers.
    Its easy no questions asked to cancelthey always honour.
    • nickcc
    • By nickcc 19th Oct 19, 8:41 PM
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    Use Amazon prime and purchase goods off them most weeks. Never had a problem for at least the last ten years and any faulty goods have always been refunded or replaced.
    • calleyw
    • By calleyw 20th Oct 19, 2:27 PM
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    Rarely use Amazon think last time was 4 months ago until 3 days ago.


    I was offered free 30 day trial and knew what i was signing up for. Goods came next day, return process was collected yesterday, i still have Prime and its far superior to Netflix in picture quality and choosing what to watch.
    Will be cancelling in 25 days after having a purge on better Series Amazon offers.
    Its easy no questions asked to cancelthey always honour.
    Originally posted by hareng

    You can cancel it now and it will run on to the expiry date. Saves you having to remember to go back in 25 days.


    Yours


    Calley x
    Hope for everything and expect nothing!!!

    Good enough is almost always good enough -Prof Barry Schwartz

    If it scares you, it might be a good thing to try -Seth Godin
    • Peanut8472
    • By Peanut8472 21st Oct 19, 9:19 AM
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    Are you not doing the same in demonizing those who are Not housebound or have no car etc . But manage to use Amazon multiple times without getting this ( i did not sign up to prime problem ).


    PS a lot of stuff on Amazon cannot be purchased through what you call shops , about 70% of my orders fit that category .
    Originally posted by JJ Egan

    Good heavens, Not at all! I'm simply pointing out, that because you find something useful, does not mean others have not experienced problems with it. The two things are completely seperate.

    In fact, i think it's quite bizarre, that some people on here, are so determined to state just how useful Amazon Prime is to them in this thread. Because I'm afraid that i really do not see how that is relevant in any way shape or form, to what the OP was talking about.

    Perhaps you would also like to tell us just how useful your teapot, or cutlery is?


    P.S. Everything i've ever bought on Amazon can purchased from other sources.
    • calleyw
    • By calleyw 23rd Oct 19, 10:03 AM
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    In fact, i think it's quite bizarre, that some people on here, are so determined to state just how useful Amazon Prime is to them in this thread. Because I'm afraid that i really do not see how that is relevant in any way shape or form, to what the OP was talking about.
    Originally posted by Peanut8472
    But no one is forced to sign up to prime which is what the op is claiming. Its down to lack of due diligence that this happens. There's enough threads littered through out this forum about people who have not read T & C's and then whine about it after wards.

    If people read what was in front of them before they clicked the buy button then there would a lot less people moaning. And yes I have on and off been a member of prime and used amazon for what seems like for ever. But I have always made a conscious decision to sign up to prime. And have never been forced to signed up to prime as some people claim. When purchasing goods.

    I am no longer a prime member, so just did a trial order and no where did it say I must have prime. Gave the price options of with and without prime, and yes the option to carry on with out prime is smaller than the button to sign up to prime. But I was not made to have prime.

    I really do think that internet shopping is not for everyone. And some of the people who whine and whinge about stuff like this, might like to take a step back and reflect on what really happened during the purchasing process. And then realise it was not quite as they thought it was.

    Yours


    Calley x
    Hope for everything and expect nothing!!!

    Good enough is almost always good enough -Prof Barry Schwartz

    If it scares you, it might be a good thing to try -Seth Godin
    • Peanut8472
    • By Peanut8472 24th Oct 19, 8:39 AM
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    But no one is forced to sign up to prime which is what the op is claiming. Its down to lack of due diligence that this happens. There's enough threads littered through out this forum about people who have not read T & C's and then whine about it after wards.
    Originally posted by calleyw
    I think you might be confusing 'force' with 'tricked', but i can see that you're having trouble understanding the concept i was attempting to illustrate.

    Interestingly, I never realised that i that had to read the T & C's of every single page i viewed on the internet, hey, thanks for pointing that out!
    But oh no, wait! I think that instead, i'll just avoid the ones that deliberately try to trick me. Ah yes, much easier.

    I really do think that internet shopping is not for everyone. And some of the people who whine and whinge about stuff like this, might like to take a step back and reflect on what really happened during the purchasing process. And then realise it was not quite as they thought it was.
    Originally posted by calleyw
    Good heavens! Thanks for telling me that internet shopping is not for me, as i've been doing it since internet shopping was actually possible. Your thoughts on the matter come as such a comfort, as now i can stop, get off my lazy backside, and actually go to the shops!

    Although wait! With other sites, i've never in all that time felt like i was being 'tricked' into signing up to anything...Hmmm.

    Btw, do not be too hard on yourself, i do not think you are 'whinging', or 'whining', or 'moaning'. No, i am taking all of your comments in the constructive manner in which i'm sure they were intended.

    While i'm here, can you tell me how i can make several fake accounts, so that i can thank my own post. TIA.

    Have a nice day's shopping

    Peanut x
    • calleyw
    • By calleyw 24th Oct 19, 10:59 PM
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    I think you might be confusing 'force' with 'tricked', but i can see that you're having trouble understanding the concept i was attempting to illustrate.
    Originally posted by Peanut8472

    Seems your arrogance has got the better of you. So before you try and educate me. Maybe get it right before you start spouting a load of old rubbish.


    Direct quote from the OP. Oh yes the words forced appears.



    It seems that every time I buy an item on Amazon, whether it is a 99p book for my kindle, or a £50 purchase, whatever, I am automatically forced to join Prime.
    Originally posted by Oldman

    So I wonder why I used the word forced when I took the time to actually read the OP in the first place.


    But there still is no forcing/tricking its down to due diligence or lack of.


    Wow you have been using the internet long before I did. Well good for you. When I first started using it Amazon did not even exist!!!!



    I will accept an apology but seeing as I will be blocking you I wont be able to see it anyway.


    Have a nice day



    Yours

    Calley x
    Hope for everything and expect nothing!!!

    Good enough is almost always good enough -Prof Barry Schwartz

    If it scares you, it might be a good thing to try -Seth Godin
    • Peanut8472
    • By Peanut8472 25th Oct 19, 9:38 PM
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    Lol, so you've lost the argument and taken your bat and ball home!



    Bye Felicia!


    Peanut x
    • Peanut8472
    • By Peanut8472 30th Oct 19, 6:00 PM
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    For informational purposes:-


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50234143


    But i forgot, you're not listening...
    • libra10
    • By libra10 2nd Nov 19, 3:35 PM
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    I have inadvertently signed up to Prime when ordering from Amazon, and find the wording at check out quite confusing. Then trying to cancel membership isn't as straightforward as it should be. They keep trying to persuade you to continue .............

    I don't want or need Amazon Prime, however brilliant it may be to some! It is aggressive marketing by Amazon, and the instructions at check out should be much clearer than they are.
    • Marvel1
    • By Marvel1 3rd Nov 19, 8:53 PM
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    Nope, i just skip the join option.
    • Moneyineptitude
    • By Moneyineptitude 4th Nov 19, 6:30 PM
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    The complications of town centre parking, cowboy parking enforcement schemes plus shop car parks being undersized with narrow bays keeps me away from bricks'n'mortar shopping these days.
    Originally posted by buglawton
    You are not alone in this attitude I'm afraid.
    Hence we wave goodbye to High Street stores like Mothercare and every other such retailer appears to be also on the brink:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50158169
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