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    • benten69
    • By benten69 29th Aug 16, 8:59 AM
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    Do you tip in restaurants?
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    • 29th Aug 16, 8:59 AM
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    Do you tip in restaurants? 29th Aug 16 at 8:59 AM
    Wasn't sure if this was the right place to put this, so admin, please move if needed.

    Do you guys (and girls) tip when you go for a meal out? Personally I hate the idea, and it's even worse when you've got the waiter standing next to you as you select "No" on the card machine.

    However, I always say that I don't get tips for doing anything extra and providing good levels of service in my job, so why should I pay others extra for a basic service their employers should be paying them for. In my previous role I saved the company £20,000 a day in penalties by delivering the project on time (a week early in fact), but I didn't get anything extra for it, because quite simply, it was my job.

    Hence, I don't agree with tipping. They are doing a job & getting their hourly rate, so why do I need to subsidize it? Tesco don't tell me to pay extra if I go to a till vs going to the self checkout.

    However, if there is a large group of us and say the bill comes out to £18 each, we'll all chuck in £20 and let the waiter / waitress keep the change. That's the only scenario it works in for me, as it saves everyone the hassle of finding change, waiting to get their change, etc.

    What are peoples thoughts?
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    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 4th Mar 18, 11:17 PM
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    I do not want tipping culture here in the UK. We have minimum wage and everyone gets paid fairly. We do not need a US system where the staff have no job security working on $2 an hour and need to survive on tips.
    Originally posted by seatbeltnoob
    There has been a tipping culture in the UK all our lives.
    • QueensGreene50
    • By QueensGreene50 25th Mar 18, 9:44 PM
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    It depends on the venue to be honest. If it's a nice sit down place with good service I will leave a tip, however I think In the U.K. you're not really expected to.
    • ScorpiondeRooftrouser
    • By ScorpiondeRooftrouser 29th Mar 18, 1:08 PM
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    In the USA menu prices are 15% lower than they would be if there weren't any tips because they don't pay their staff properly. That's the deal. if they had to pay their staff, all menu prices would rise 15%.

    To refuse to tip in the US is amazingly ignorant. Everyone knows the price is whatever is on the menu, plus 15%. That's the deal you sign up for when you walk in and sit down.

    In countries where this is not the case and tipping is optional, like here, it's different.
    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 29th Mar 18, 11:00 PM
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    15%? In Smallsville maybe. Most places now print a suggested tip of 18/20/22% on the bill.

    I've started tipping less in CA though as staff there have quite a high minimum wage and health insurance. Some places in SF add an additional service charge to cover these additional costs. I reduce the tip by the same amount.
    • fatrab
    • By fatrab 30th Mar 18, 2:00 PM
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    I do tip. But I have a 10% or £5 maximum rule. 5% or £2.50 each for good food and good service.

    When we were eating out a lot, we'd normally go for pre-theatre type meal deals in smaller independent restaurants, e.g. 2 courses for £9.95 - plus a few drinks, which usually came to £30-£40 so we'd rarely hit the £5 maximum. It doesn't take much for us to slash the tip either, which is usually slow/unfriendly service or getting the order wrong.

    The way I see it, if every couple/table gave them a £5 tip they'd be earning a good few quid on top of their wages.

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    • z1a
    • By z1a 30th Mar 18, 4:34 PM
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    No .
    • Dealied
    • By Dealied 31st Mar 18, 4:31 AM
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    Depends if the restaurant has already a service charge, i wouldn't give any tip.
    • Techno
    • By Techno 4th Apr 18, 9:38 PM
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    We enjoy the odd cruise and quite a few of the Americans bribe the staff (sorry, tip in advance) to assure good service so we have moved to a line that includes the tip. It is a bit more expensive but we Brits just find the whole tipping culture which is driven by the USA and their awful approach to service staff, so uncomfortable. And, I agree with others who state that it is the quality of the food not the service that encourages me to visit a restaurant.
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    • NeilCr
    • By NeilCr 5th Apr 18, 7:16 AM
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    And, I agree with others who state that it is the quality of the food not the service that encourages me to visit a restaurant.
    Originally posted by Techno
    For me, it's both.

    We have a fairly new "high end" restaurant in a nearby town. I gather the food is excellent. It's not our style of food and is expensive so haven't been there myself

    They are losing customers because of surly service - in particular, one waiter. One of my friends used to use it regularly for business lunches but has recently stopped going there as the service is as it is.

    We tip. 10%. Unless the service is poor. We use 2/3 particular restaurants regularly and have built up a good rapport with the staff.,
    • NBLondon
    • By NBLondon 5th Apr 18, 3:07 PM
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    We enjoy the odd cruise and quite a few of the Americans bribe the staff (sorry, tip in advance) to assure good service
    Originally posted by Techno
    Does it actually ensure good service? Or just avoid deliberately bad service?

    Another reason to avoid cruises... that and the risk of ending up on the same one as an annoying Welsh bloke who thinks his impressions are hilarious.
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    • LunaaLouuby
    • By LunaaLouuby 5th Apr 18, 3:45 PM
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    I always tip in restaurants to reflect the service of the wait staff. I've previously worked in a take away and know how stressful it can be dealing with hungry customers!
    • Cleo&tammy
    • By Cleo&tammy 2nd Jun 18, 8:17 PM
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    I always tip in restaurants, unless the staff are rude.
    • katebrooks
    • By katebrooks 4th Jun 18, 10:38 AM
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    I only tip when the staff is nice and helpful. If I feel uncomfortable or not well served then I don't
    • gazzak
    • By gazzak 4th Jun 18, 10:42 AM
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    I've previously worked in a take away and know how stressful it can be dealing with hungry customers!
    Originally posted by LunaaLouuby
    If they weren't hungry then they wouldn't be there surely?
    • BakingC
    • By BakingC 4th Jun 18, 12:04 PM
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    I will tip if I am going out for a meal as the focal point of the evening and staying there for a longer period of time e.g. multiple courses lots of talking between courses (unless the service is lacking)

    If I am just going to say w*g*m*mas for a quick ramen prior to going to the cinema I will be less inclined to tip but if I have a particularly cheery and friendly server I still might but more like up to the nearest £5/10 depending on size of the bill.
    • Nasqueron
    • By Nasqueron 7th Jun 18, 5:25 PM
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    The best example of entitlement I saw was in Canada in Quebec, in a restaurant the service was average at best and the waitress said towards the end, three times, that service wasn't included in the bill. Might as well have been begging.

    I tend to do about 10% in most places where staff are nice or where we are regulars, our local curry house usually gives us a free drink each at the end so the tip for the staff is a nice way of saying thanks. Staff can struggle to survive on minimum wage so if they are above and beyond then that's worth rewarding. I tip the hairdresser a quid as well (only ever have a head shave that takes maybe 10 minutes and costs me about £12). I don't go in for the US nonsense of tipping everyone, a barman expects you to leave a dollar just for providing drinks even if it's just opening a bottle!

    For what it's worth, the urban myth of "TIP" being an acronym for "To Insure Promptness" was mentioned way back on page 2. This isn't true, it's one of these words that people have retrospectively added this to (like POSH being Port Out Starboard Home). If you think about it, paying after doesn't "insure" prompt service and paying in advance doesn't guarantee the server will be good, plus "ensure" is much better English. Tip as a verb comes from the 1700s relating to rich people giving servants a reward, though the word tip goes back to 1610 - originally underworld slang for giving or sharing among petty criminals.
    • RyanEzio
    • By RyanEzio 7th Jun 18, 7:53 PM
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    Ever since the minimum wage was increased to £7.50. A lot of restaurants do not allow their staff to keep the tips.

    So we careful when giving out the tips.
    Ryan
    • DamnMoon
    • By DamnMoon 8th Jun 18, 8:30 AM
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    It all depends on the situation.

    Paying on a card - no, unless the service has been incredible.

    Someone else who has not been the main server doing the bill - no.

    Paying by cash - maybe, but only if I have a lot of loose change or would only get loose change from paying with notes.
    • ViolaLass
    • By ViolaLass 9th Jun 18, 8:28 PM
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    I've been a waitress a few times. I never expected tips (what a way to ruin your own evening if it doesn't happen) or relied on them.

    I was also very unlikely to remember precisely what repeat customers had tipped, if at all, last time. I'm not sure I would have been impressed with any customers who expected me to remember. I also never held it against anyone who didn't tip (again, if I even remembered). Maybe they didn't have cash, maybe they could only just afford the meal, maybe they earned no more than me, maybe they didn't like the tipping culture, maybe...

    Maybe they just said thank you instead and were polite.
    Last edited by ViolaLass; 09-06-2018 at 8:37 PM.
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