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    • JCS1
    • By JCS1 30th Dec 18, 7:35 PM
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    • #1
    • 30th Dec 18, 7:35 PM
    Copyright 30th Dec 18 at 7:35 PM
    A few years ago, MSE stated that for any pictures uploaded on to the site, that MSE held copyright and that they could use.

    Does this still remain in place?

    There was a cross stitch cafe where members post photos of their work, but there was much unhappiness that MSE took copyright.
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    • FestiveJoy
    • By FestiveJoy 31st Dec 18, 12:37 AM
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    • 31st Dec 18, 12:37 AM
    A few years ago, MSE stated that for any pictures uploaded on to the site, that MSE held copyright and that they could use.

    Does this still remain in place?

    There was a cross stitch cafe where members post photos of their work, but there was much unhappiness that MSE took copyright.
    Originally posted by JCS1
    7.1. When you post content on our Site, you agree and represent that you have created that content. You still own any copyright in the text that you post on our Site. However, when you post text, images, video or other media, you expressly grant us a perpetual, fully transferable, worldwide royalty-free licence to republish that text on our Site and to use/redistribute/make available and/or sell that text in any format and on any platform, either now known or hereinafter invented anywhere in the world as part of an edited compilation or otherwise...
    https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/site/terms-conditions/


    • unforeseen
    • By unforeseen 31st Dec 18, 8:45 AM
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    • 31st Dec 18, 8:45 AM
    But for the most part you don't actually post it to the site. You only post a link. MSE can use the link as they see fit but it doesn't stop you removing the content of that link that is hosted on a different site

    I would have said that the rights that they claim compromise the copyright holders rights quite significantly. As the copyright holder you are entitled to alter your copyrighted work as you see fit, nothing they say can remove that right.
    • JCS1
    • By JCS1 31st Dec 18, 1:51 PM
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    • 31st Dec 18, 1:51 PM
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    • 31st Dec 18, 1:51 PM
    So how does that work? Copyright is with the designer of the chart, but MSE are also claiming Copyright?


    And if I have spent several months working on a piece, for MSE to post it elsewhere and not to give credit is wrong.
    • FestiveJoy
    • By FestiveJoy 31st Dec 18, 2:03 PM
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    • 31st Dec 18, 2:03 PM
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    • 31st Dec 18, 2:03 PM
    So how does that work? Copyright is with the designer of the chart, but MSE are also claiming Copyright?
    Originally posted by JCS1
    No that is incorrect. Let me try again...
    7.1. When you post content on our Site, you agree and represent that you have created that content. You still own any copyright in the text that you post on our Site. However, when you post text, images, video or other media, you expressly grant us a perpetual, fully transferable, worldwide royalty-free licence to republish that text on our Site and to use/redistribute/make available and/or sell that text in any format and on any platform, either now known or hereinafter invented anywhere in the world as part of an edited compilation or otherwise...
    https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/site/terms-conditions/

    And if I have spent several months working on a piece, for MSE to post it elsewhere and not to give credit is wrong.
    Originally posted by JCS1
    1.2. The Site is provided to you free of charge for your personal use, subject to these Terms and our Privacy Policy. Please read these Terms and our Privacy Policy before using our Site. By using our Site you are agreeing to be bound by these Terms and our Privacy Policy. If you don't agree to these Terms or our Privacy Policy, you should stop using and accessing the Site...
    https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/site/terms-conditions/


    • JCS1
    • By JCS1 31st Dec 18, 4:25 PM
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    • 31st Dec 18, 4:25 PM
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    • 31st Dec 18, 4:25 PM
    No need for the "try again" comment was there?

    So it states I own copyright to the text, it doesn't mention copyright of designs/pictures.

    Also, I object to MSE posting my work for their benefit. Whilst legally they can do it, morally it is wrong.

    So the answer is to leave the forum, which is what quite a lot of people seem to be doing lately.
    • PDC
    • By PDC 31st Dec 18, 4:56 PM
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    • 31st Dec 18, 4:56 PM
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    • 31st Dec 18, 4:56 PM
    It all sounds very similar to the Facebook terms hoo-ha that starts up every so often - If its of help, https://www.howtogeek.com/304037/does-facebook-own-my-photos/
    • JCS1
    • By JCS1 31st Dec 18, 5:39 PM
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    • 31st Dec 18, 5:39 PM
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    • 31st Dec 18, 5:39 PM
    But facebook don't copy pictures over to their own Pinterest pages. MSE do
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 13th Jan 19, 7:26 PM
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    • 13th Jan 19, 7:26 PM
    If you do not want MSE to share what you post then don't post it in a format they can use.
    Punctuation, Spelling and Grammar will be used sparingly. Due to rising costs of inflation.

    My contribution to MSE. Other contributions will only be used if they cost me nothing.

    Due to me being a tight git.
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