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    • charlotte1994
    • By charlotte1994 19th Dec 18, 9:02 AM
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    Should Shops Be Shut Boxing Day?
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    Should Shops Be Shut Boxing Day? 19th Dec 18 at 9:02 AM
    My local Home Bargains shop is closed Boxing Day, they say so the staff can have a break and be with their families. I love this idea, I don't see why people need to go shopping (that isn't for food) on Boxing day, the staff need a break too!!

    I remember my mum telling me about a customer who came into her shop and asked if they were open Christmas Day, she said of course not and he replied "well what if I need more wine?"

    Do you think all shops should follow suit? Or do you think they should open for Boxing Day?
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    • spadoosh
    • By spadoosh 19th Dec 18, 12:06 PM
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    Please explain how me going to see family is a burden on others?

    I'm not forcing anything, just saying I think it would be a good idea. You're making that whole scenario up lol it's not going to happen. Who wouldn't want an extra day off? If they want to go shopping on Boxing day then I'm sure it's for something that they want that day, why would they shop online for something they would like that day and wait 2-3 days for it to arrive? Makes no sense to me.


    Stop being salty because I think it's a good idea that a shop is closed over the Christmas period, the world is not going to collapse because people can't buy tat for a day. Where did I say anything about football? This is about retail. It should be up to the individual store, but if it was me I wouldn't put anyone on a rota, I would ask for volunteers if needs be.
    Originally posted by charlotte1994
    IM assuming you work in retail? If not then it doesn apply to you, if you do then by you not working (and the store being closed) to go and see your family your denying someone going shopping. If thats the day they want to go shopping thats their prerogative.

    And thats ultimately the problem when saying who wouldnt want an extra day off. It doesnt just stop at close shops on boxing day, it goes to close pubs, close sporting events, close taxis and public transport.

    Boxing day is one of the biggest days of the year for retailers, be that online or high street. So your assertions that people only go shopping for stuff they immediately need is wrong. And you know this by mentioning tat later on.

    Im highlighting the many downfalls of you suggesting something. Thats not being salty its disagreeing with you. I agree the world wouldnt collapse. Youve assumed everyone celebrates christmas, which they dont, youve assumed everyone wants boxing day off, which seems apparent that whilst they might want time off they prefer being paid.


    Many business do just that, and they make it work. When you compel business to do things it more often than not has unintended consequences which is what i think youve missed out thinking about here. As mentioned my OH works in retail, she always got what she wanted off. New years when we didnt have a child and Christmas when we did, make her shut on boxing day and its to the detriment of our childcare arrangements and needing to take holiday when not needed. I work in care, same thing applies, we need people to work over the period but do appreciate its the festive season, as such we ask preference and work to that.
    Don't be angry!
    • Tammykitty
    • By Tammykitty 19th Dec 18, 12:22 PM
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    I think they should be closed personally, or how about late opening.


    I definitely don't agree with the like of Next opening at 6am, and staff being in from 3am, how is anyone meant to enjoy Christmas when they have to be in work at 3am.


    I don't think it should be law that shops should be closed - but I think it should be law that no non essential staff are on a rota to work on Christmas day or boxing day - if staff choose to volunteer, for triple or quadruple pay, then so be it! (And I include pubs, restaurants, footballers, stadium attendants etc in this).


    Christmas day is a time for families - it should not be spoilt by commercialism.
    • charlotte1994
    • By charlotte1994 19th Dec 18, 12:34 PM
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    I think they should be closed personally, or how about late opening.


    I definitely don't agree with the like of Next opening at 6am, and staff being in from 3am, how is anyone meant to enjoy Christmas when they have to be in work at 3am.


    I don't think it should be law that shops should be closed - but I think it should be law that no non essential staff are on a rota to work on Christmas day or boxing day - if staff choose to volunteer, for triple or quadruple pay, then so be it! (And I include pubs, restaurants, footballers, stadium attendants etc in this).


    Christmas day is a time for families - it should not be spoilt by commercialism.
    Originally posted by Tammykitty
    A friend of mine used to work at Next, she had to work until late Xmas eve and then start early for the Boxing Day sales ):
    • charlotte1994
    • By charlotte1994 19th Dec 18, 12:40 PM
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    ]M assuming you work in retail? If not then it doesn apply to you, if you do then by you not working (and the store being closed) to go and see your family your denying someone going shopping. If thats the day they want to go shopping thats their prerogative. Wow you completely missed the point but ok. I don't, but my immediate family do. It would be nice to spend more time with them over the holiday rather than just for 1 day k thnx

    And thats ultimately the problem when saying who wouldnt want an extra day off. It doesnt just stop at close shops on boxing day, it goes to close pubs, close sporting events, close taxis and public transport. Where I live there is already very very limited public transport on boxing day, taxis will charge 3x the normal fare

    Boxing day is one of the biggest days of the year for retailers, be that online or high street. So your assertions that people only go shopping for stuff they immediately need is wrong. And you know this by mentioning tat later on. Yes, only because commercialism has made it so

    Im highlighting the many downfalls of you suggesting something. Thats not being salty its disagreeing with you. I agree the world wouldnt collapse. Youve assumed everyone celebrates christmas, which they dont, youve assumed everyone wants boxing day off, which seems apparent that whilst they might want time off they prefer being paid.


    Many business do just that, and they make it work. When you compel business to do things it more often than not has unintended consequences which is what i think youve missed out thinking about here. As mentioned my OH works in retail, she always got what she wanted off. New years when we didnt have a child and Christmas when we did, make her shut on boxing day and its to the detriment of our childcare arrangements and needing to take holiday when not needed. I work in care, same thing applies, we need people to work over the period but do appreciate its the festive season, as such we ask preference and work to that.
    Originally posted by spadoosh
    You're making this a much bigger issue than it needs to be My OH also works in retail, he has opted in to work over NYE as he knows that other people will want it off. All I'm saying is that shops do not need to open, and that it's a good thing that Home Bargains is giving those workers extra time off at such a busy period
    • stephen77
    • By stephen77 19th Dec 18, 12:47 PM
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    If the high street shops close.

    I bet the online retailers will keep open.
    • humptydumptybits
    • By humptydumptybits 19th Dec 18, 12:59 PM
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    Please explain how me going to see family is a burden on others?

    I'm not forcing anything, just saying I think it would be a good idea. You're making that whole scenario up lol it's not going to happen. Who wouldn't want an extra day off? If they want to go shopping on Boxing day then I'm sure it's for something that they want that day, why would they shop online for something they would like that day and wait 2-3 days for it to arrive? Makes no sense to me.


    Stop being salty because I think it's a good idea that a shop is closed over the Christmas period, the world is not going to collapse because people can't buy tat for a day. Where did I say anything about football? This is about retail. It should be up to the individual store, but if it was me I wouldn't put anyone on a rota, I would ask for volunteers if needs be.
    Originally posted by charlotte1994

    Maybe spare a thought for people with no family who have had no contact with anyone since the shops shut Christmas Eve, going out into a warm bright environment and saying hello to a friendly shopkeeper might be as good as it gets for some. Of course as long as you can do what you want it doesn't matter does it.


    I used to do rotas for Christmas working, some people are more than happy to work it for a variety of reasons. I've had people offer to work all over Christmas as they are travelling home in January and want some extra days or extra money, people of other faiths who would rather swap the days for something more appropriate to them or people who live alone, don't have anywhere to go and are happy to go into work and see people.


    You just assume everyone is like you with the same needs and wants as you. No one is forced to go shopping on Boxing Day, if they didn't do it shops would shut but as it is people do want it and shops want there money so you will just have to suck it up.


    Going to see your family could be a burden for a variety of reasons, do you drive? Maybe you could break down and need towing, maybe you could be in an accident and cause lots of work for lots of people, maybe you need petrol or maybe you don't drive and expect transport workers to work?
    • humptydumptybits
    • By humptydumptybits 19th Dec 18, 1:01 PM
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    I think they should be closed personally, or how about late opening.


    I definitely don't agree with the like of Next opening at 6am, and staff being in from 3am, how is anyone meant to enjoy Christmas when they have to be in work at 3am.


    I don't think it should be law that shops should be closed - but I think it should be law that no non essential staff are on a rota to work on Christmas day or boxing day - if staff choose to volunteer, for triple or quadruple pay, then so be it! (And I include pubs, restaurants, footballers, stadium attendants etc in this).


    Christmas day is a time for families - it should not be spoilt by commercialism.
    Originally posted by Tammykitty

    And if you don't have a family?
    • always_sunny
    • By always_sunny 19th Dec 18, 1:05 PM
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    Do you think all shops should follow suit? Or do you think they should open for Boxing Day?
    Originally posted by charlotte1994
    Shops should do as they see fit, why not have them open even on Christmas day if they wish so? If shoppers don't want to go, they won't. They're plenty of people who don't give a toss about Christmas and/or Boxing Day and perhaps would rather be working and earn some money.
    EU expat working in London
    • Tallaght
    • By Tallaght 19th Dec 18, 1:06 PM
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    Some local shops open on xmas day nevermind boxing day.
    • evenasus
    • By evenasus 19th Dec 18, 1:18 PM
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    Yes they should be closed.
    The time for saving for a house deposit, is before you marry/live together/have children.
    Save for what you want to buy
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    • spadoosh
    • By spadoosh 19th Dec 18, 1:21 PM
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    You're making this a much bigger issue than it needs to be My OH also works in retail, he has opted in to work over NYE as he knows that other people will want it off. All I'm saying is that shops do not need to open, and that it's a good thing that Home Bargains is giving those workers extra time off at such a busy period
    Originally posted by charlotte1994
    And this is where you naivety shows. Im pretty sure its not extra time off for the staff, theyll just have one less holiday to take during the rest of the year.

    We disagree, ill leave it at that. I was trying to offer reason and discussion but it seems apparent thats unwarranted from me.
    Don't be angry!
    • Tallaght
    • By Tallaght 19th Dec 18, 1:22 PM
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    2 are run by Asian families and 1 by a Turkish guy.
    • Wild_Rover
    • By Wild_Rover 19th Dec 18, 1:43 PM
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    Judging by the amount of stuff some people have in their trollies pre Xmas, thy won't need to shop for about 2 weeks!
    Originally posted by Marisco
    Too true. When I see the number of loaves in folks trollies in the run up to Christmas I could be forgiven for thinking that the traditional full Christmas meal has been replaced by a trough filled to the top with bread sauce.

    WR
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    • always_sunny
    • By always_sunny 19th Dec 18, 1:46 PM
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    Too true. When I see the number of loaves in folks trollies in the run up to Christmas I could be forgiven for thinking that the traditional full Christmas meal has been replaced by a trough filled to the top with bread sauce.

    WR
    Originally posted by Wild_Rover
    That always intrigues me... it's like people don't shop throughout the year and let loose just before Christmas; my local supermarkets (Asda/Sainsbury's) are incredibly busier this time of the year - don't people eat in other months? Are there more people all of a sudden? Mystery really!
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    • Cetshwayo
    • By Cetshwayo 19th Dec 18, 1:58 PM
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    Mystery really!
    Originally posted by always_sunny
    To foreigners most things are in this country.
    • always_sunny
    • By always_sunny 19th Dec 18, 2:11 PM
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    To foreigners most things are in this country.
    Originally posted by Cetshwayo
    What is your issues with foreigners making comments? Second time in a day, I am starting to think it's getting personal, which I don't mind, just be direct rather than waltz around.
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    • charlotte1994
    • By charlotte1994 19th Dec 18, 2:33 PM
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    Maybe spare a thought for people with no family who have had no contact with anyone since the shops shut Christmas Eve, going out into a warm bright environment and saying hello to a friendly shopkeeper might be as good as it gets for some. Of course as long as you can do what you want it doesn't matter does it.


    I used to do rotas for Christmas working, some people are more than happy to work it for a variety of reasons. I've had people offer to work all over Christmas as they are travelling home in January and want some extra days or extra money, people of other faiths who would rather swap the days for something more appropriate to them or people who live alone, don't have anywhere to go and are happy to go into work and see people.


    You just assume everyone is like you with the same needs and wants as you. No one is forced to go shopping on Boxing Day, if they didn't do it shops would shut but as it is people do want it and shops want there money so you will just have to suck it up.
    Why are you getting so mad? I'm not saying shops should shut at all I'm just saying that I like that home bargains is.

    Going to see your family could be a burden for a variety of reasons, do you drive? Maybe you could break down and need towing, maybe you could be in an accident and cause lots of work for lots of people, maybe you need petrol or maybe you don't drive and expect transport workers to work?
    Originally posted by humptydumptybits
    These people don't work on the high street though, do they? Where are you getting this from? I've never said that everyone should have christmas off. That's just stupid, you're saying this, not me


    Never said all the shops would be shut, never said they should shut either, just saying that I like the idea why y'all taking what I said and blowing it way up, I'm literally just talking about some retail shops. I think it's nice, like last year when the Entertainer closed Christmas eve as it was a Sunday, I thought that was brilliant. Obviously a lot of people need to work, as they are working in an important service, but imo shops aren't a need. Just saying it's nice that the shop is thinking about their staff, no need to get your knickers in a twist
    • charlotte1994
    • By charlotte1994 19th Dec 18, 2:34 PM
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    Too true. When I see the number of loaves in folks trollies in the run up to Christmas I could be forgiven for thinking that the traditional full Christmas meal has been replaced by a trough filled to the top with bread sauce.

    WR
    Originally posted by Wild_Rover
    How much do people think they're going to eat over 2 days? I've never understood this, surely they can't eat all that bread
    • charlotte1994
    • By charlotte1994 19th Dec 18, 2:36 PM
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    Some local shops open on xmas day nevermind boxing day.
    Originally posted by Tallaght
    Do they really my mums shop is shut, but we still laugh about the man who said "what if I want more wine"
    • Pollycat
    • By Pollycat 19th Dec 18, 2:38 PM
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    Shops should do as they see fit, why not have them open even on Christmas day if they wish so? If shoppers don't want to go, they won't. They're plenty of people who don't give a toss about Christmas and/or Boxing Day and perhaps would rather be working and earn some money.
    Originally posted by always_sunny
    I sort of agree with this...as long as the shops don't put pressure on workers to work when they would rather be off.


    I certainly won't be shopping on Boxing Day.
    I won't even be shopping on Christmas Eve as I'll have bought everything I need before then.
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