Watching pmq's today. Think Corbyn said many people on ESA will lose it?

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Kris35
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I only had half an eye on it but am sure he said something about people on ESA will lose it in the future under May? Does anyone know anything about this? Maybe I misheard
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  • [Deleted User]
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    Haven't seen anything in the news to suggest this, but its doubtful that Mrs May has much of a future herself.
  • Ames
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    I think he was talking about the move to UC.
    Unless I say otherwise 'you' means the general you not you specifically.
  • calcotti
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    Everybody on legacy benefits will eventually be migrated to UC (under current plans). Doesn’t mean they will lose benefits, depending on circumstances some will get slightly more money, others will lose but government is looking at transitional protection (after much lobbying).
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    Having just watched PMQ's, what Corbyn was asking about was the managed migration process.

    Corbyn was stating that DWP will NOT transfer a claimant from ESA to UC as part of a DWP clerical process.

    From what I understand Corbyn may be correct. ESA will write to claimants saying that their ESA claim will be closed from X date and that they must apply for UC online.

    Corbyn says that this will leave many vulnerable claimants without benefits, as they may not have the capacity to react to the ESA letter and apply for UC online.
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    calcotti wrote: »
    Everybody on legacy benefits will eventually be migrated to UC (under current plans). Doesn’t mean they will lose benefits, depending on circumstances some will get slightly more money, others will lose but government is looking at transitional protection (after much lobbying).

    I thought that transitional relief had always been the plan from when they start managed migrations? which can be expected from 2019
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    I thought that transitional relief had always been the plan from when they start managed migrations? which can be expected from 2019

    You may be right but I wasn’t sure everything was covered, there was a lot of coverage recently abut the SDP but I haven’t followed it too closely.
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    huckster wrote: »
    Having just watched PMQ's, what Corbyn was asking about was the managed migration process.

    Corbyn was stating that DWP will NOT transfer a claimant from ESA to UC as part of a DWP clerical process.

    From what I understand Corbyn may be correct. ESA will write to claimants saying that their ESA claim will be closed from X date and that they must apply for UC online.

    Corbyn says that this will leave many vulnerable claimants without benefits, as they may not have the capacity to react to the ESA letter and apply for UC online.


    That is the meaning I took from it too, I suppose it all will boil down to saving money, I think he mentioned the word "support" in his question, so I took that to mean the support group of ESA.


    But who knows, it could all be in the pipeline just like the way it was dropped in the budget a number of years ago, that ESA (cb) wrag was for 365 days only.
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    justaquestion wrote: »
    That is the meaning I took from it too, I suppose it all will boil down to saving money, I think he mentioned the word "support" in his question, so I took that to mean the support group of ESA.


    But who knows, it could all be in the pipeline just like the way it was dropped in the budget a number of years ago, that ESA (cb) wrag was for 365 days only.

    I don’t think support refers to the Support Group. The concern is that the UC claim process is challenging for some claimants and can be harder to negotiate that legacy benefit claims. Vulnerable claimants need help (support) to ensure that they do transfer to UC and don’t get Lost and forced in poverty.
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    calcotti wrote: »
    You may be right but I wasn’t sure everything was covered, there was a lot of coverage recently abut the SDP but I haven’t followed it too closely.

    Transitional relief should mean that your legacy benefit payments will not change when moved to UC, but neither will they be increased until they reach the level of UC.
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    It's like the DLA to PIP case, there is no migration, you have to apply for UC when ESA, JSA or IS tell you or your benefits will cease.


    There is no process to transfer data as the legacy systems cannot talk to the UC systems and vice versa.
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