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Things can sort themselves out but most likely the other tenants will just leave rather than become involved, especially if there are children involved, which is what happened in this case. I felt that things could potentially take a downward spiral at this point so decided to leave vacated flat empty until I could get the problematic tenant out, and take a hit on the income for a few months.
As for passing the problem onto someone else, what is the alternative? At least if they keep getting s.21s eventually no one will rent to them and social housing will have to step in anyway.
Actually even with the best will in the world I don't believe this type of problem is fixable and just has to be left to the landlord, imperfect though that is.
If only all LLs were like you, Querty, if only.0 -
Things can sort themselves out but most likely the other tenants will just leave rather than become involved, especially if there are children involved, which is what happened in this case. I felt that things could potentially take a downward spiral at this point so decided to leave vacated flat empty until I could get the problematic tenant out, and take a hit on the income for a few months.
As for passing the problem onto someone else, what is the alternative? At least if they keep getting s.21s eventually no one will rent to them and social housing will have to step in anyway.
Actually even with the best will in the world I don't believe this type of problem is fixable and just has to be left to the landlord, imperfect though that is.
The properties we have now are all agent managed. If the neighbours want the number of the agent we give it to them. One set of neighbours complained once about a late night party held by our tenants. The agent went out the next day and told our tenant that we as landlords would not put up with tenants who upset the neighbours (which is why the neighbours had the agents number in the first place) so if the tenants wanted to continue to live in the property they needed to modify their behaviour. It never happened again.
One our properties has a neighbour who works nights. We specified no young children for tenants next door so that he didn't get woken up. Some landlords do care about their tenants not causing problems in the local community or to neighbours. This is one of the reasons why I don't want 3 year tenancies.0 -
The properties we have now are all agent managed. If the neighbours want the number of the agent we give it to them. One set of neighbours complained once about a late night party held by our tenants. The agent went out the next day and told our tenant that we as landlords would not put up with tenants who upset the neighbours (which is why the neighbours had the agents number in the first place) so if the tenants wanted to continue to live in the property they needed to modify their behaviour. It never happened again.
One our properties has a neighbour who works nights. We specified no young children for tenants next door so that he didn't get woken up. Some landlords do care about their tenants not causing problems in the local community or to neighbours. This is one of the reasons why I don't want 3 year tenancies.
The children were only around at weekends otherwise it was just a single guy but it was enough to cause them distress and drive him out eventually. He had been there 2 years and I did not want him to go. This type of situation will get a whole lot worse with 3 year contracts and God forbid removal of s.21.0 -
Or spare a thought for the homeowners the other side of a party wall from the Chav from Hell, who holds loud, weed-smoking, weed-selling parties every week end, whose all-male guest list urinates in her front garden and who is almost certainly a prostitute.
Yes, the council know, they have known for almost 2 years, as have the police and the utterly useless LL. None of them have to live next door to her. She might as well have a 3 year tenancy, she has already been there more than 2 and, apparently, has paid no rent for over 1... And guess who the LL expects us to feel sorry for!
If she's a prostitute it's a criminal offence to let property knowingly to her, IIRC.0 -
I filled in the survey too and pointed out that if tenants wanted 3 year contracts they'd ask for them but they don't, and I also pointed out that if they wanted them they'd bid more for them but they don't. So if a 3 year tenancy is worth the same to the tenant as a 1-year, what's the problem?
My suggestion was that by mutual consent landlords and renties could continue to agree to 1-year tenancies. If 3 years really are worth more to tenants and are worse for landlords, landlords will discount the price of 1-year tenancies, right?
I also suggested that Section 24 be revoked for landlords offering 3-year tenancies. As that is something the government could tangibly do to make this happen, but would cost money, we can be sure they won't do it.0 -
westernpromise wrote: »If she's a prostitute it's a criminal offence to let property knowingly to her, IIRC.
Her new career path came about only after the abusive BF was excluded from the property by the Closure Order. The LL never met any of his tenants until the non payment of rent went on long enough for him to fire the utterly useless LA. I doubt he even knew their names. Not that the new one has done anything, either. Besides, no amount of proof is ever enough for either the police or the council. They will do absolutely anything to ensure they have to do nothing.
They were given video evidence of a breach of the injunction and her barrister shot it down because there was no time stamp on it. I could not make this up.
He/they are exactly the type of people who should be banned from letting to anyone, ever. If the government actually wanted to make a difference, that is what they should be legislating about, not making things even easier for such scum.0 -
Her new career path came about only after the abusive BF was excluded from the property by the Closure Order. The LL never met any of his tenants until the non payment of rent went on long enough for him to fire the utterly useless LA. I doubt he even knew their names. Not that the new one has done anything, either. Besides, no amount of proof is ever enough for either the police or the council. They will do absolutely anything to ensure they have to do nothing.
They were given video evidence of a breach of the injunction and her barrister shot it down because there was no time stamp on it. I could not make this up.
He/they are exactly the type of people who should be banned from letting to anyone, ever. If the government actually wanted to make a difference, that is what they should be legislating about, not making things even easier for such scum.
Local paper? Nice juicy story about neighbour from hell with interviews from all her neigbours. Also with comments about useless landlord etc.0
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