Switching Pet Insurance

We have a 7 year old cat. In good health with no medical issues nor have we claimed on insurance in the 3 years we've had her.


Our renewal from Direct Line pet insurance has just landed and it's gone up AGAIN. Now £20 a month. It's a high level of cover (£8,000 per condition) but a quick look on comparison sites suggests similar policies for around £12.


Has anyone switched in similar circumstances? Anything to watch out for?



I'm almost tempted to self insure for illness and just have accident cover as we do have a reasonable emergency fund. Anyone done this?

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  • MovingForwards
    MovingForwards Posts: 16,905 Forumite
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    I've never insured any of my cats.

    First one was PTS due to kidney failure, attempted treatment and injection to PTS was under £200.

    Next cat was run over, instantly killed.

    Third cat had cancer three times, total operation costs / scans were under £700, as far as I can recall, for two cancer removal operations, three scans and blood works (because of her twin with his kidney failure and she had mild haemophilia); didn't have a third op as it was clearly inoperable.

    In 25 years of owning cats I've paid out well under £1,500 for all treatment and castrations / spaying.

    Technically I'm quids in because of not having insurance.

    Sat here still debating whether to insure our greyhound though as I know dogs cost more to sort out.
    Mortgage started 2020, aiming to clear it in 2026.
  • MovingForwards
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    Can't edit to add fourth cat has only cost me spay fees and she is 12 this year.

    (Don't mean my first post to sound callous, it still hurts many years on).
    Mortgage started 2020, aiming to clear it in 2026.
  • bugslet
    bugslet Posts: 6,874 Forumite
    edited 15 January 2019 at 9:19AM
    I've never insured any of my dogs. Quick breakdown:

    Peri - I was a child here so my recollections are hazy, but I don't remember anything going wrong with him and he died in his sleep age 14

    Nermal - nothing wrong with him until the day before he died of some type of seizure age 13. Cost notional

    Prince - Had bladder stones, cost was a few hundred, plus metacam in his last two years for arthritis, died at 17

    Bugs/aka bugslet;) - he had epilepsy from the age of three. He had the occasional bloodtest and some cheap meds all his life. I think he is the one for whom Insurance would have put me on the winning side. Died age 13 within a day of having a stroke.

    Billy - died 16 after a few weeks of epilepsy type fits. Cost notional

    Skip - died age 10 of haemangio sarcoma. Pretty quick, nothing they could do for him, again a few blood tests, cost a few hundred

    Poppy - rescue that I knew when I got her was not in good health. She had two occasions when she was in the vets with a collapsed trachea ( not operable), around £700.00 for those events and then daily Xanax. She also had a skin condition, though that didn't cost much. I took her on knowing she was a bit of a disaster and couldn't have got Insurance anyway. Only had her 3 years.

    Tilly - died age 16 of mast cell tumours. She had two ops, <1000.00, all in the last few months of her life.

    Stella - died age 14. Age 10 she developed spindle cell carcinoma, big op cost 1400.00. It came back but there was nothing we could do and it didn't cause her problems other than her having a fat leg! She had Cushings for about 4 months which cost 90.00 in medication per month.

    Ruby - died four weeks ago age 11. Always been rock solid then Weds morning she was off colour and by Sunday she was put to sleep. Cost me around 1300.00, suspected brain lesions.


    I currently have an 8.5 year old spitz that has had no health issues so far and a 2.5 year old giant schnauzer, again no problems so far.

    Out of the ten that have died, I'm ignoring Poppy because I knew the score when I got her and couldn't have insured her for the conditions she had already anyway, the other 9, two (Bugs and Stella) would have broken about even had I insured them instead. The other were big wins, so over all I tend to think that I am better off self-insuring.

    I've never not done anything because of cost.
  • sheramber
    sheramber Posts: 19,030 Forumite
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    What price peace of mind?

    If you have access to a large sum of money, whether savings or credit card or loan.

    I f you do not have a lot of savings or access to credit or a limited income then insurance may the way forward.

    My two current dogs are insured. One is 14 and has only had bills that were below the exccess so no claims. But, being on a limited income, I have peace of mind that I will not be faced with a large bill I may not be able to pay.

    The other one required surgery after two years of being with us. The total cost came to nearly £3000,. Her insurance premiums for the last 71/2 years have been just over £20 each year. One year they actually came down. At less than £300 each year I have still paid them less than they paid out.

    Petplan paid out far more for a previous dog than I paid them.

    It very much depends on your own circumstances,

    My vet told me the worst situation fo him is when he has to euthanase an animal because the owner cannot afford to pay for necessary treatment. I once overhead a vet nurse explaining to a client that they could not give any more treatment to his cat as he had an outstanding bill.
    This was a vet who did allow clients to pay up bills but this client had not made any payments.
  • bugslet
    bugslet Posts: 6,874 Forumite
    It really does depend on individual circumstances sheramber. I'm lucky that a. it generally has worked out better for me not having insurance and b. that I can afford to pay for them.

    Ruby, that died just before Xmas, was due an MRI scan on Xmas Eve that would have cost 3k. I'd have happily paid it, but a big discussion with the excellent vet on the Saturday, then went in to see Ruby on Sunday and I took the decision that it wasn't worth it. She'd stopped breathing on Saturday afternoon, luckily they were there at the time and got her back. But Sunday, I 'think' she knew I was there. A scan would have most likely shown lesions on the brain and what do you do then.

    The other part of the equation besides money, is do you do things because you can, because medical science allows you to, or do you say, yes we could x, y and z but, as in Ruby's case, I have an 11 year old dog that has had a very happy life, either surgery or chemo is difficult and it's too much. If you are pragmatic like me, it perhaps determines that you won't take medicine to its maximum.

    And, and I know some people will slate me for this. If I thought that the scan would have revealed something that resulted in a treatment that was not overly traumatic, then I'd have paid for it, not a problem...but, it did go through my mind that I was preparing to shell out several thousand pounds two days before Christmas when people a few miles from me would be eating from a food bank. That wouldn't change anything about me paying, but I can't say it sat entirely comfortably.

    Here endeth the ramble!:o
  • sheramber
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    I quite agree quality of life comes before quantity.

    I made such a decision for a 15 year old who had been active until her last day. My vet offered to try treatment but it would only have delayed the day and I did not think that was fair to a dog who had had an active life until then.

    I also declined an MRI for a suspected brain tumour despite the dog being insured. Neither I nor my ver were prepared to to do brain surgery so all it would have achieved would have been confirming the potential diagnosis.
    He lived happily for another 6 years when the suspected brain tumour was in fact confirmed.

    I wouldn't treat just because insurance would pay for it. It has to be the best option for the animal.
  • Thanks for your thoughts everyone. Still undecided.



    Our last few cats have all needed long term medication although with some it was 50:50 whether it would have been cheaper not to have insured. With one I'm sure the vet persuaded us to prolong treatment beyond the point it would have been kinder to PTS because we had insurance.



    Will discuss with hubby......
  • Third cat had cancer three times, total operation costs / scans were under £700, as far as I can recall, for two cancer removal operations, three scans and blood works (because of her twin with his kidney failure and she had mild haemophilia); didn't have a third op as it was clearly inoperable.

    May I ask if this was recent? £700 for two surgeries and a few rounds of scans bloodwork sounds very cheap.


    In 25 years of owning cats I've paid out well under £1,500 for all treatment and castrations / spaying.

    By contrast, my friend's six-year-old cat unexpectedly became very unwell, was eventually referred to a specialist and the total cost was nearly £5k in under two weeks.


    Sat here still debating whether to insure our greyhound though as I know dogs cost more to sort out.

    Only in that drug quantities are higher; medical care costs aren't dramatically different between dogs and cats (though some people are willing to spend more on dogs than cats).

    Something like a complex medical work-up will eat through the best part of £1-2k very quickly, dog or cat.
  • Quick update. OH has negotiated with our current insurer so basically the premium stays the same for another year. We'll live with that.
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