TV Licence article Discussion

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  • Phil555
    Phil555 Posts: 3 Newbie
    Cornucopia wrote: »
    The Licence is a licence to receive TV broadcasts - all of them. The term "Live TV" is an unhelpfully ambiguous term, as you have found. (And to their shame, BBC-TVL undertook a public survey to test the Public's understanding in 2016, and found that 59% did not understand the term in the way required to successfully interpret its own communications about the TV Licence).

    What they mean by "Live TV" is programming that is transmitted in real time, rather than being catch-up or video-on-demand. So, unfortunately, that means that the answer to all three of your questions is: yes.

    Once you ditch the notion of "Live TV", the rules are pretty straightforward:-

    You need a TV Licence to...

    - Watch or record TV Broadcasts ("linear channels") received via traditional means (terrestrial, satellite or cable TV).

    - Watch the Internet-streamed versions of the channels above.

    - Use BBC iPlayer to watch or download BBC programs (but not radio or S4C programs).]

    Looks like I need a license then............................ :mad:

    Thanks for the clarification.

    Good to hear a clear explanation that is actually understanable.

    Thanks again, much appreciated.
  • Cornucopia
    Cornucopia Posts: 16,151 Forumite
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    Phil555 wrote: »
    Looks like I need a license then............................ :mad:

    I think so.

    As described in the MSE article, it's not necessarily that difficult to not need a Licence. You can still watch catch-up services from the commercial broadcasters, most content from Youtube and all the video-on-demand content from Now TV, Netflix and Amazon.
  • keith969
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    !!!!!!

    The BBC license is a form of tax. Think of it like council tax. You want to watch TV - you pay the tax
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  • wymondham
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    keith969 wrote: »
    !!!!!!

    The BBC license is a form of tax. Think of it like council tax. You want to watch TV - you pay the tax

    Not strictly true, only if you want to watch LIVE tv..... (or BBC catchup).

    So easy to make small changes so you don't need to pay the licence I'm amazed more don't do it... I suspect most young people don't need to pay the licence due to the way they get content, and the rest of us just need to not stick to TV schedules to achieve most of it... easiest moneysaving thing ever...
  • oldernonethewiser
    oldernonethewiser Posts: 1,768 Forumite
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    Had my visit from TVL today

    TVL - do you live here?
    Me - yes
    TVL - do you have a TV licence?
    Me - no
    TVL - So no TV or anything in the property?
    Me - correct
    TVL - Can I come in and verify that?
    Me - no
    TVL - okay thanks. Bye






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  • redmike58
    redmike58 Posts: 1 Newbie
    Hi,
    Silly question maybe, but I just wanted to know if I would be required to have a licence for having BBC News, BBC Sport and BBC Weather websites as apps on my iPad and on my laptop.
    I do not watch TV other than Netflix and YouTube and listen mainly to the radio.
    I do not have a licence but am unsure about the websites.
    To confirm, I do not watch ANY live TV in any form.
  • dan958
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    redmike58 wrote: »
    Hi,
    Silly question maybe, but I just wanted to know if I would be required to have a licence for having BBC News, BBC Sport and BBC Weather websites as apps on my iPad and on my laptop.
    I do not watch TV other than Netflix and YouTube and listen mainly to the radio.
    I do not have a licence but am unsure about the websites.
    To confirm, I do not watch ANY live TV in any form.

    No, only if you are watching live tv, or on demand from Iplayer.
  • cw18
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    edited 19 September 2019 at 6:13PM
    oldernonethewiser wrote: »
    Had my visit from TVL today

    TVL - do you live here?
    Me - yes
    TVL - do you have a TV licence?
    Me - no
    TVL - So no TV or anything in the property?
    Me - correct
    TVL - Can I come in and verify that?
    Me - no
    TVL - okay thanks. Bye
    Had I agreed to answer any questions, my answer to the 3rd would have been different as I have 3 TV sets in my house. And I assume the 'or anything' could include laptop (3), desktop PC (1), tablet (1) and mobile phone (2 that work).
    But do I watch Live TV or iPlayer? No, and it's that rather than owning a TV set which requires a licence.
    Therefore I don't need a licence.
    Cheryl
  • FreeBear
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    cw18 wrote: »
    Had I agreed to answer any questions, my answer to the 3rd would have been different


    My answer to the first three would have been "None of your business", and the last, an emphatic refusal.
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  • Lottiecopperwaite
    Lottiecopperwaite Posts: 1 Newbie
    Hi I've had Marston bailiffs come collect £680 off me for TV licensing, I paid in full in Jan and they proceeded to go to court, cut a long story short, I've had all proceedings against me dropped and am now being passed from pillar to post trying to get my money back. They have left us with £4 to live on for 3 weeks until we are paid by our employers, we also have 2 children aged 6 and 8. All due to their employee error. They Ave also admitted fault but that doesn't put food on my table. I'm struggling to get any answers and don't know what other options I have to get my money back quicker and compensation for all the distress it is causing. Thanks in advance for any advise
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