Public Sector Pension Strikes – A JOKE !

Old_Slaphead · 28 November 2011 at 11:16AM

Credit-Crunched wrote: »

I speak aside of nurses, police, fire, ....... etc who deserve MORE money

Anyone tell me what the top line pay for these 3 jobs including any overtime, shift payments, freebie transport to work (in case of police) etc and the contracted hours worked ?

Credit-Crunched · 28 November 2011 at 11:16AM

Zelazny wrote: »

To be fair, the bus/train bit does not function as if it were in the private sector, as different companies are given effective monopolies on certain journeys, and are in some cases given large amounts of taxpayer cash to make the routes feasible.

It's also interesting to note that of all the things you mentioned, the bus/train staff are the only ones I can recall striking in the last 20 years.

That is because the other sectors are happy to have paid employment..

Andy_L · 28 November 2011 at 12:31PM

howee wrote: »

tough one, in 'real world' they don't happen very often. As thank goodness we don't have many unions or members.

Or do Private Sector employers, who will feel the impact of strikes or recruitment/retention problems in their own pocket, prevent them from happening in the first place?

ILW · 28 November 2011 at 12:52PM

Possibly because most of the private sector are not in a monopoly position. If they fail to deliver then generally there are others ready to take the business, which does tend to get one to sharpen up ones act.

nicknameless · 28 November 2011 at 5:33PM

ILW wrote: »

Possibly because most of the private sector are not in a monopoly position. If they fail to deliver then generally there are others ready to take the business, which does tend to get one to sharpen up ones act.

like the energy companies for instance :rotfl:

J_i_m · 28 November 2011 at 5:43PM

Old_Slaphead wrote: »

Anyone tell me what the top line pay for these 3 jobs including any overtime, shift payments, freebie transport to work (in case of police) etc and the contracted hours worked ?

http://www.rcn.org.uk/support/pay_and_conditions/pay_rates_20112012

sharnad · 28 November 2011 at 5:45PM

Credit-Crunched wrote: »

I love this somewhat bizarre notion that the private sector is all about factories. Lets go through a day of your interaction with the private sector.

bus / train to work = private
coffee on way in = private
buy lunch in supermarket = private
call into bank to pay cheque = private
re-fuel car on way home = private
phone up sky / electric to change account = private

If the private sector threatened strikes on the same magnitude of the public sector then this country would literally grind to a halt, the striking public sector will be no different to any other working day.

I speak aside of nurses, police, fire, paramedics, coast guard etc who deserve MORE money

The amount of over paid, over unionised, over self-opinionated self worth individuals in the public sector is sickening. I have daily interaction and I am amazed at the waste, both time and money that is apparent.

A huge wash through all departments, asking everyone to justify their job would make a few people blush and struggle.

Working longer = welcome to private sector
Paying in more to pension = if lucky enough to have one , welcome
NO paid overtime = welcome to private sector
Huge targets and workloads = welcome to private sector
Ruthless job cuts without consultation = welcome to private sector

And before you say but our jobs are hard to do when we are 67, tell that to the 68 year old cleaner, factory worker, call centre operator.

Really you aint got it that bad, and I hope these strikes prove to us all that even if you dont work for a full day the country will still troop on

your right the world would grind to a halt if starbucks closed for the day

zygurat789 · 28 November 2011 at 6:17PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Slaphead

Anyone tell me what the top line pay for these 3 jobs including any overtime, shift payments, freebie transport to work (in case of police) etc and the contracted hours worked ?

http://www.rcn.org.uk/support/pay_an...rates_20112012

But those on the higher rates are not nurses they are managers and trainers running diversity awareness courses (where they teach you to say chairperson not chairman but are nonplussed by the diversity version of human)

Nurses are people who deal with customers, treating the sick and injured, they get the lower bandings.
The agenda for change was a managers charter to line their own pockets at the expense of the NHS.
These managers are the ones who should lose their jobs and pensions for the state they have got the NHS into.

MsSupertech · 28 November 2011 at 6:38PM

For many in the public sector this will be the third time their occupational pensions goal posts have been moved in recent years - in addition to the changes to state pensions. (Yes, I know the private sector has had changes too)
One thing to remember is that many public sector employees (particularly the professionals) don't really have an alternative employer. The NHS, education etc are overwhelmingly in a 'monopoly' situation as an employer. Opportunities for jobs in private healthcare or education are few and far between. This means that, unlike private sector employees, many public sector staff can't simply decide go elsewhere to try to improve their pay or conditions. Which helps explain why they're angry..

ILW · 28 November 2011 at 6:39PM

nicknameless wrote: »

like the energy companies for instance :rotfl:

They may not be great, but the service was a whole lot worse when they were in public ownership.

Same goes for BT.

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