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    • Mlewilliams
    • By Mlewilliams 19th Mar 19, 9:32 AM
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    Tenant costs under communal heating
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    • 19th Mar 19, 9:32 AM
    Tenant costs under communal heating 19th Mar 19 at 9:32 AM
    Hi, I am hoping to get some advice about tenant's obligations to pay towards the maintenance and future repairs of a communal heating system.

    I have recently moved in to a 2-bed flat in a block of 75 that has a communal heating system. I do not own the flat, I am a tenant. I have recieved a bill for heating and hot water only for three months which comes to a total of 422.97 of which 109.01 are metered charges for heating/hot water used, and 313.96 are 'standing charges'.
    I have spoken to the provider (Switch2) and they have confirmed that the standing charges cover
    1) costs associated with repair, replacement, operation and maintenance of the infrastructure
    2) a 'sinking fund' which is a regular contribution to a fund should the communal boiler need replacing in the future.

    These standing charges are significant. They take my heating/hot water bills to 111 a month, whereas in previous properties in the same area of a similar size I have paid 62 a month for heating/hot water and electricity.

    I was not told about these charges when I moved into the property. I have done some research, and I'm pretty sure that costs associated with maintenance, repair and replacement of boilers should fall to a landlord not a tenant, and therefore the Landlord should pick up these costs. Switch2 have advised that they have had queries in the past and they know that some Landlords do this.

    Does anyone have any advice about my rights and obligations? Am I obliged to pay these costs, or should they fall to the landlord? In a usual property the landlord would pay for the maintenance of the boiler, and any replacement needed in the future, and my assumption is that the same principal should apply.

    Any help gratefully recieved!
    Thanks
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    • dogshome
    • By dogshome 19th Mar 19, 3:23 PM
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    • 19th Mar 19, 3:23 PM
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    • 19th Mar 19, 3:23 PM
    This a 'District Heating Scheme' and I'm afraid you are stuck with it


    DHS's on the continent, notably in Germany, are efficient and cheap.
    No so in the UK, with privatisation there are almost no rules as to what the owners of such schemes can do or charge, so best advice is to sit out your lease term, and move
    • gsmlnx
    • By gsmlnx 19th Mar 19, 5:57 PM
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    • 19th Mar 19, 5:57 PM
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    • 19th Mar 19, 5:57 PM
    Go to the Citizens Advice Bureau with your tenancy agreement and the energy bills. Ask for their opinion on what the terms of your tenancy say about the heating bills.
    • harrowrenter
    • By harrowrenter 26th Jun 19, 9:00 AM
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    • 26th Jun 19, 9:00 AM
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    • 26th Jun 19, 9:00 AM
    Hi Mlewilliams,
    I am stuck with same situation as yours and same provider.The Landlord is asking me to pay for the standing charges and the agent is not at all ready to speak up.

    Did you get anywhere with it?

    Thanks,
    harrow renter
    • savemoney
    • By savemoney 26th Jun 19, 9:40 AM
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    • 26th Jun 19, 9:40 AM
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    • 26th Jun 19, 9:40 AM
    Op hasn't been back since 21/3. Your best starting your own thread to get a reply




    Hi Mlewilliams,
    I am stuck with same situation as yours and same provider.The Landlord is asking me to pay for the standing charges and the agent is not at all ready to speak up.

    Did you get anywhere with it?

    Thanks,
    harrow renter
    Originally posted by harrowrenter
    • wild666
    • By wild666 26th Jun 19, 12:17 PM
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    • 26th Jun 19, 12:17 PM
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    • 26th Jun 19, 12:17 PM
    Basically the cost of using gas and electric fall on you but paying for the servicing and repair costs SHOULD fall on the landlord. If the heating failed it would be up to the landlord to fix it at their expense that's why they should have cover for this. This is unfair terms and conditions on the tenant they do not own the system. The only way a tenant could be made to pay for repairs is if they were responsible for the failure and as all you do is turn it on and off it would be up to the landlord to cover the costs.

    P.S.
    This is assuming you don't hold the leasehold to the property (flat) and are just a ordinary tenant paying rent.
    Last edited by wild666; 26-06-2019 at 12:23 PM.
    Someone please tell me what money is
    • mackemps3
    • By mackemps3 10th Jul 19, 3:57 PM
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    • 10th Jul 19, 3:57 PM
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    • 10th Jul 19, 3:57 PM
    Wow thats crazy amount for DH, i had that in my old flat with gentoo in sunderland all my heating and hot water was only 4 ish a week and before i moved out was reduced to 2 ish a week.

    I dont know how they can charge you that much when other places its basically free.
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