Gift card marketplace Zeek warns it's looking for a buyer - MSE N

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  • JDPower
    JDPower Posts: 1,673 Forumite
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    Woolco wrote: »
    The problem is, this was a failed site from day 1. I have no sympathy for the site or the users.
    Nice to see empathy is alive and well here
  • Woolco
    Woolco Posts: 172 Forumite
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    Gracias mucho.
  • ColinJones
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    In your coverage of the loss of money by UK users of Zeek (the online marketplace for selling second hand gift-vouchers), you should be aware that it could be that the FCA are complicit in consumers’ loss.

    Hidden away in Zeek’s Terms and Conditions is the assertion that Zeek.Me acts purely as an agent of the seller of the gift-voucher, and not of the buyer (this is not immediately obvious from their website homepage).
    Indeed, it explicitly states in the T&Cs that, from the buyer’s point of view, payment to Zeek is the same as payment to the seller.
    The T&Cs also state that Zeek has the seller’s authority to complete the sale of the gift-voucher.

    The T&C’s are written this way as, in the UK currently according to the FCA, these terms enable the CAE (Commercial Agents Exemption) loophole to apply from PSD2 protection.
    PSD2 (in the UK, the Payments Services Regulations 2017) came into law on 13th January 2018, and states that online-marketplaces that handle client payment from this date must be FCA registered, and if over certain volumes then the client funds must be safeguarded in special segregated secure bank accounts, unless the CAE applies (in which case, the marketplace firms are completely outside this law).

    Now the German and French FCA equivalent regulators have long ruled that an on-line marketplace cannot invoke the CAE simply by stating in its terms and conditions that it has the authorisation to complete a sale.

    See for example the German regulator’s ruling from 2014:
    https www . bafin.de / SharedDocs/Veroeffentlichungen/EN/Fachartikel/2014/fa_bj_1404_bezahlverfahren_im_internet_en.html?nn= 7858612#doc7874232bodytext7

    But the FCA is fighting these other regulators tooth-and-nail, and currently interprets the law to allow Zeek and other online marketplace to exclude themselves from the new law by some deft text in the T&Cs stating that they have authority to finalise a sale from one party.

    The result is that client money is treated as the marketplace’s own, with no special care nor handling nor special protection, and in the case of Zeek the possible loss of sellers’ money as a result.

    This should not be allowed to continue – the FCA must follow its co-regulators example, and interpret the new law correctly, and force marketplaces to protect client money as the law mandates.


    I believe MSE should update its story to include these facts.








    P.S.
    Although Zeek is an Israeli company, it is seemingly clearly operating in the UK.
    For example, its T&Cs at https wp.zeek.me / terms-of-use/ (saved just now to the internet wayback machine) state multiple examples including:

    · * The Service is solely for the promotion of products within the United Kingdom.
    · * (ii) the brand of the physical Gift Voucher to be listed must have at least 5 stores/branches in the UK;
    · * etc.
  • Nobleman
    Nobleman Posts: 28 Forumite
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    This article, if true, doesn't sound good. No buyers found.

    https://www.calcalistech.com/ctech/articles/0,7340,L-3757843,00.html
  • davide55
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    For those of us who have used credit cards to deposit money into our Zeek wallets the advice I have received is as follows :

    Do NOT raise a charge back claim, since this will be lost because the credit card company has successfully paid the money into the wallet. ie the service has been provided by the credit card company (and because the company is not in administration the full service of progressing to buy vouchers may still be possible)

    What is needed is for us to prove that the company is in administration (different from receivership). Once in administration we can claim since it is evident that Zeek will be unable to fulfill the entire service ie we cant buy vouchers

    Tesco Bank said that once in administration we would have a claim (under section 75). My payment was excess of £100 - may be different if less than £100

    Has anyone else had a similar discussion with their credit card provider ?
  • Jennifleur125
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    I had £254.57 credit in Zeek Choice which was my earned cashback from Quidco. When I could still log on to my account, my credit had reduced to £0.00 although I had not spent it.

    I've emailed Zeek asking to be able to use the credit, alternatively to reimburse my paypal account. Obviously I've heard nothing back.
    I contacted Quidco to ask if they could advise on whom to contact about being reimbursed my due credit. They explained there's nothing they can do, unless, "When it comes to refunding a gift card, Zeek will need to see explicit permission from you to wipe the gift card produced of it's balance and return this to us, so we can then add this to your Quidco account."

    Can anyone suggest who else it is that would regulate in this instance please?
  • goody2
    goody2 Posts: 88 Forumite
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    I have about £150 in my Zeek wallet in the form of Mitchell & Butler Dining Out giftcards. I wish I had recorded the gift card numbers so I could still use them
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