A Thread for After Debt?

18081838586170

Comments

  • Well we have to wait and see... 4x DH wage after a 10% deposit is short of being able to buy a 3 bedroom house!! We need 4.5x his wage which is much harder to find. I need to find a motgage advisor I think!! But at least we can look at it more seriously right now :)

    QueenB that's what we've been doing up until now... saving and dreaming... I want to paint my childrens rooms... such a small thing many take for granted!!

    Easilyamused Surely even if you've never been in debt like many you are the same as us... trying to stay out of debt :D

    Well done on your outlook on life... maybe an odd question but why is that? I wonder if it's upbringing? Because if so I would love tips on how to pass that to my children... I already encourage savings by offering DS 1% interest a month (he has £74.03 right now in his account) and I charge 100% on borrowing. He earns his money... and pays half of school trips and activities... buy's gifts himself, and treats. And if he wants branded shoes i'll give him whatever I was going to spend and he makes up the difference. It seems to be working, as he spend £120 on a trampoline but waited until winter to get it cheap... buys computer games in charity shops etc! But any and all wisdom gratefully recieved her... especially since it might not work on my daughter...
    We spend money we don't have, on things that we don't need, to impress people we don't like. I don't and I'm happy!
    :dance: Mortgage Free Wannabe :dance:
    Overpayments Made: £5400 - Interest Saved: £11,550 - Months Saved: 24
  • QueenB.
    QueenB. Posts: 1,083 Forumite
    Combo Breaker First Post
    Welcome easilyamused and well done for being able to maintain such a debt free life. I do agree that it depends on what you hold important and I have to say that I am one of those people that loves to travel not that that was the reason we got into debt, in fact we have had very few holidays as a family and certainly nothing expensive. In fact this holiday I have just booked will only be the second 'proper' holiday that my boys have been on. Any other trips have been to stay with family around the country, normally Scotland and Wales. I do go on holiday once a year with a friend and have done for a few years. That came about for two reasons, travelling is a passion of mine, maybe because I was an army child and lived abroad a lot. Secondaly because being a parent of a child with special needs can really take its toll. When I first went on holiday with my friend I was a full time SAH carer and going anywhere with my son was very difficult and after many years I was very depressed and my wonderful friend put her foot down and said i needed a break. Without it I hate to think what kind of parent, partner, person i would be. but we always went in the colder months and got amazing deals. I think you have to live a life that you are happy with and being DF certainly helps people do that.

    JulieG I worry that I will never be able to afford the kind of home I want. At the moment we live in council housing but it is falling apart and the council are more interested in getting rid of the houses than fixing them and we did look into buying but the cost to fix this place up just makes it not worth it, even with a discount, we are talking serious structural damage I get seriously worried a wall will collapse. Our kitchen roof has collapsed twice and thats just the start of a long list of issues which have been ignored by the council over the past few years. Its a shame because i would probably have brought it otherwise just to get my foot on the housing ladder. The area we live in is so expensive to rent so I am grateful that we have a roof over our heads (for now) and we can't move out of the area because of my sons specialist school but I am determined to make some type of plan for next year. To think about it seriously though I would have to go back to work so its all about weighing up the options.
    Success means having to worry about every thing in the world......EXCEPT MONEY. Johnny Cash

    Cross stitch Cafe member 81.
  • QueenB I am sorry to hear of the problems you are having with your house. I thought ours was bad! We rent privately and we have a huge issue with condensation and mould that the landlord just isn't tackling! If your humidity is 100 then it's raining... 50-60 is normal for a house, 70 get's black mould... our house is 90!!!! And you can't heat damp air! I just can't wait to move! We have other issues too... but moving is so expensive so we've stuck around!

    Our biggest fear is no one will give us a mortgage, our bank has already turned us down and now we have to consider going to someone who will lend to higher risk (we have no debts, 10% deposit and good credit score... We just need more then the recommend amount as mentioned above)!

    Really annoying because the repayment on a 25 year mortgage is only £50 a month more then rent on the same size property!!! So we can obviously afford it! but now we may need to go for a higher interest rate which will drive the repayments up or make the term longer!

    Anyway, I do sympathise with your situation... although we are looking I just feel like we may never actually get there! At least we have good savings! I told DH that if we can't buy now then we'll just keep trying until we can... maybe one day the housing market will crash terribly and we'll be able to buy outright :D

    I can dream...

    Just thought I'd share... I just booked Eliza's baby massage (A gift from her future godmother) and I am sooooo very excited about doing it! :j:j:j
    We spend money we don't have, on things that we don't need, to impress people we don't like. I don't and I'm happy!
    :dance: Mortgage Free Wannabe :dance:
    Overpayments Made: £5400 - Interest Saved: £11,550 - Months Saved: 24

  • Well done on your outlook on life... maybe an odd question but why is that? I wonder if it's upbringing? Because if so I would love tips on how to pass that to my children... I already encourage savings by offering DS 1% interest a month (he has £74.03 right now in his account) and I charge 100% on borrowing. He earns his money... and pays half of school trips and activities... buy's gifts himself, and treats. And if he wants branded shoes i'll give him whatever I was going to spend and he makes up the difference. It seems to be working, as he spend £120 on a trampoline but waited until winter to get it cheap... buys computer games in charity shops etc! But any and all wisdom gratefully recieved her... especially since it might not work on my daughter...

    I think it has a bit to do with that, as my folks never were particularly extravagant with money (although we always had a holiday every year and I can't remember going without anything) I think my dad's always been sensible with money though - he's always been a saver and has often told me how the bank would try and get him to take out a bigger mortgage and he always turned them down and stayed with a fairly small one.
    Interestingly though my older sister, who obviously had the same upbringing as me has got herself in a right pickle a number of times with money and ended up buying loads of nice things - clothes, flashy tv's, cars etc. I think maybe seeing what a mess she got into also made me see things a little differently perhaps.

    I also wonder if I'm partly the way I am because I'm a bit of a control freak and like to have things orderly and sorted, and I think having a large debt that I struggled to pay would feel like I was out of control.

    For what it's worth I think it sounds like you're doing wonders for teaching your children the value of money :) I think it's kids who have things bought for them at the drop of a hat whenever they want something, get raised on the want-it-now-get-it-now culture and (potentially) carry that attitude through into adulthood.

    I think that's why people get so bored with all their shiny new toys so quickly too - if I have to save up for things over a number of months and have to be patient, to me it feels like it's so much more rewarding and valuable when I finally get it.

    Sorry I think I'm wittering now... having a glass of wine waiting for dinner to cook and vinos always loosens my tongue :rotfl:
  • Just a quick visit ..... welcome to easilyamused great to have a new member.

    I'm reading all the above with interest ..... I'm not sure what went wrong with me tbh:o. DF was a bank manager and he lent me money for my first couple of cars (with interest of course;)) but when I ventured out into the big bad world it just went t*ts up - mainly as I needed to furnish my flat (pre free*cycle etc days unfortunately) and then it just spiraled from there :( (no money to budget for bills so paid them on the cc etc etc).

    Lesson well & truely learnt tho' (it's only taken 15 years:eek:).

    JG & QueenB wishing you all the best in your search for new houses - my last house before this was a rental that I absolutely loved but unfortunately the LL wasn't great at fixing things. I did try to buy it but he wouldn't sell (probably just as well as goodness knows what horrors would've been unearthed).

    I'm very lucky to be where I am - in a lovely house in a really nice small village - all down to an inheritance.

    DM had to act as guarantor on my mortgage when I first moved in as my salary wasn't high enough .... I've just remortgaged and she's now "free" - I was the same tho' - the last house had gone up to £475/month in rent (5 years ago) and my mortgage now is only £280.....

    Must dash - batch cooking - I have a pot of mince and another of spag bol sauce on the hob and a lasagne in the oven!:)
    Grocery Challenge £211/£455 (01/01-31/03)
    2016 Sell: £125/£250
    £1,000 Emergency Fund Challenge #78 £3.96 / £1,000
    Vet Fund: £410.93 / £1,000
    Debt free & determined to stay that way!
  • I always try and be open with my DS about my own debt problems... I tell him I want him to learn from my mistakes instead of his own! I also teach him as martin tells us too with his education reform... not all debt is bad debt, and teaching children that all debt is bad causes problems (ie. there needs to be a differentation between morgage debt and loans for things we need, such as a basic car to get to work and credit cards and loans for things we don't need, like a sports car!) so i do hope he will learn well and be able to make informed decisions when he is older.

    next I am hoping to teach him the true cost of buying on credit (like on superscrimpers where a womans £60 handbag would end up costing her £96 by the time she paid it off!!!)!

    I agree that saving makes things much more enjoyable... I saved for my breadmachine and I treat it like gold dust :D
    We spend money we don't have, on things that we don't need, to impress people we don't like. I don't and I'm happy!
    :dance: Mortgage Free Wannabe :dance:
    Overpayments Made: £5400 - Interest Saved: £11,550 - Months Saved: 24
  • DM had to act as guarantor on my mortgage when I first moved in as my salary wasn't high enough .... I've just remortgaged and she's now "free" - I was the same tho' - the last house had gone up to £475/month in rent (5 years ago) and my mortgage now is only £280.....

    Can you still do this???

    This is interesting... because MIL is desperate for us to buy!
    We spend money we don't have, on things that we don't need, to impress people we don't like. I don't and I'm happy!
    :dance: Mortgage Free Wannabe :dance:
    Overpayments Made: £5400 - Interest Saved: £11,550 - Months Saved: 24
  • Can you still do this???

    This is interesting... because MIL is desperate for us to buy!

    mmmm (sorry eating a rather tasty lasagne!)

    Depends on the bank .... many don't (HSBC, 1st Direct are two - they wouldn't even take me as they said the old mortgage would just be transferred with all the old t&cs - which is *%$£ as my new lender said that basically the old mortgage is settled and the new one is treated on it's own merits).

    Try posting on the mortgages board - there's a few Advisers on there.

    Or .... I went through Which? mortgage advisers - free, independent service & they tell you if there's a better product they can't arrange. I have to say, from my own experience, they were fantastic. http://www.whichmortgageadvisers.co.uk/?gclid=CIeluN-svK4CFYgifAodbA8bHA
    Grocery Challenge £211/£455 (01/01-31/03)
    2016 Sell: £125/£250
    £1,000 Emergency Fund Challenge #78 £3.96 / £1,000
    Vet Fund: £410.93 / £1,000
    Debt free & determined to stay that way!
  • Thanks Rising I've passed the information to DH and he's going to look into it all, Once we find someone to lend us the money we can start looking for a house...

    ... although I found one I really like already...

    ... but if it's meant to be it'll still be there when we are ready :D
    We spend money we don't have, on things that we don't need, to impress people we don't like. I don't and I'm happy!
    :dance: Mortgage Free Wannabe :dance:
    Overpayments Made: £5400 - Interest Saved: £11,550 - Months Saved: 24
  • QueenB.
    QueenB. Posts: 1,083 Forumite
    Combo Breaker First Post
    Rising I would love a house in a little village, or better yet own my owm piece of woodland where i can build a little environmental house. Big dreams, empty pockets:D is your mortgage only £280? thats great, my rent is around £400 pm and trying to rent even a one/two bedroom flat in this area is at least £600/£700 unfurnished pm:eek: we would need a three bed house so no chance of privately renting. But I have heard that a mortgage can be cheaper pm than renting but i guess the problem is not the payments but actually getting the mortgage in the first place. We had been looking at moving abroad a few years back but healthcare and specialist education is a problem in most countries so I guess we are here in this country for another 5 years at least.

    I may have to do some lurking on the mortgage boards for some inspiration.

    JulieG yay on the baby massage. I learnt how to do it with all of mine and even now at 10,12 and 19 they plonk themselves in front of me with massage demands:D
    Success means having to worry about every thing in the world......EXCEPT MONEY. Johnny Cash

    Cross stitch Cafe member 81.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 343.1K Banking & Borrowing
  • 250.1K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 449.7K Spending & Discounts
  • 235.2K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 607.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 173K Life & Family
  • 247.8K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 15.9K Discuss & Feedback
  • 15.1K Coronavirus Support Boards