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    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 1st Jan 18, 11:51 AM
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    Frump to Fab 2018 - Fabulous Dahhhhlings
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    • 1st Jan 18, 11:51 AM
    Frump to Fab 2018 - Fabulous Dahhhhlings 1st Jan 18 at 11:51 AM
    Good Morning my Lovelies.

    And welcome to the new bright and shiny Frump to Fab Thread.

    First of all a very big hello and welcome to everyone, newbies, lurkers and returners....and those undecided.

    Second let me wish you all “Happy New Year”.

    Let’s rock this one!!!!

    Well now where do we start this year. We have quite a history here now don’t we. I was thinking this morning about how the thread has developed so for the newbies......a brief potted history.

    A few years ago my son took a photo of me. I was horrified. I burst into tears. I could hardly believe my eyes at the image before me. But.......as we know the camera doesn’t lie and I couldn’t argue with what That image revealed.

    I went upstairs and stood in front of a full mirror and allowed the awful truth to sink in........never mind frump, I looked like a bag lady.

    In my defence.......it was not down to laziness, far from it. I was caring for my semi Paralysed terminally ill husband. My days were full on with caring duties. I scarcely had a spare minute, it was all I could do to shower and brush my teeth sometimes.

    All very noble of course but I had completely neglected myself in the process. I had forgotten the simple golden rule........we cannot care for others if we don’t care for ourselves. We cannot give love, if we don’t treat ourselves with love.

    How many women forget this simple fact. In our busy lives as mothers, daughters, sisters how often to we put ourselves last on that never ending “to do list”.

    As I stood and looked in that mirror I realised the folly of my ways and I resolved to “do something”. I wasn’t sure what exactly but I knew I had to make a start somewhere.

    So I started the first Frump to Fab Thread and, as they say, the rest is history. What started as a simple diary to help me make the necessary changes to get me out of “Frumpdom” has become a wonderful friendship group of likeminded women.

    Yes some of us are of a certain age but not all. Frumpdom is not the preserve of the middle aged woman who has “let herself go”. Becoming a frump can happen to anyone, young women, even teenagers.

    But here’s the good news .......it’s never too late to reverse the process, never too late to ditch the frump, never too late for the caterpillar to turn into a beautiful butterfly or for the ugly duckling to turn into a graceful and elegant swan.

    There are no rules to this thread except one.

    Kindness please........we don’t judge anyone here, we don’t get into futile pointless arguments, we don’t make nasty comments, we don’t indulge in sarcasm, we don’t bully others, we don’t play mind games and we don’t try to score points by making others feel small.

    So all that being said .....if you are ready to change your stars and become that alluring goddess you always longed to be, if you want to reclaim the energy and vitality that was once yours but has somehow disappeared then this is place for you.

    Let’s all get fabulous.

    Lesson no 1.

    Wear perfume, every day. Don’t save it for best. Get out all those unused smellies lurking in the back of the bathroom cabinet or bedside drawer and start using them.

    Smell divine......and fabulousity will follow. That’s a promise.

    A women who smells gorgeous is gorgeous. It’s the first step on your journey.

    Right I’m off to bathe in a sea of perfumed bubbles but first ..........

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    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 15th Nov 18, 3:38 PM
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    Re the garden.....not sure what I'm going to plant and where exactly. I have been watching to see where the sun falls, which are the windy bits. I won't be planting until March or April time. On the whole it seems to be a nice sunny sheltered garden and the soil is nice and dark with not too much clay so I think I can make it nice. Apparently the previous occupants but one had a beautiful Japanese style garden complete with fish ponds but the lady I bought from had it all ripped out and planted a lawn.

    Tbh I think she was ripped off and that her gardeners did a very poor job. The lawn doesn't look that great, a lot of weeds and moss in there. I'll work on it and see if I can rescue it. If not it will be fine for my grandchild to play on for the time being but eventually, if I stay here in the long term, I will probably go back to a nice Japanese style with pretty gravel. Easier to manage when I'm in my 80s and beyond. .......although by then I'm more likely to be escorted in a city apartment with a balcony instead of a garden.

    Time will reveal all.
    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 15th Nov 18, 4:16 PM
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    Maman. I'm not sanguine at all. In fact I'm livid but obviously powerless.

    Why am I so angry.

    Well two words......Angela Merkel.

    She has, and I can't believe her timing, but she has finally nailed her colours to the wall. Apparently she wants (and it transpires she's not the only one) but she is pushing for a Franco/German alliance with, wait for it, a STANDING ARMY.!!!!!

    So there we have it ........the French and the Germans have finally admitted their end game........a militarised EU - exactly what we were promised would never happen, that It simply wasn't on the EU agenda. The EU would never be a military union. Yeah right.

    Lies, lies, lies!!!! We have been sold a crock. I've always known it and my Belgian relatives and friends have always said it too. The EU was built on a pack of lies from the start. And anyone who has tried to issue warnings has been shouted down.

    And this week of all weeks. 100 years since the Armistice. Two wretched world wars, all these millions dying in vain. She and her fellow conspirators should hang their heads in shame.

    To make matters even worse they seemed determined to start a cold war with the USA. After all the US has done for France........not only financial backing and military hardware and weaponry but also sending US sons to shed blood for them.

    No matter what we might think of Trump, he's only temporary. A POTUS only ever gets two terms at the most so he'll be gone soon enough. Maybe sooner, if the good people of America decide to impeach him and go shopping for a new president.

    If I were American I would be enraged by what the EU are proposing and their stance against the US. In the words of Ronnie Regan I could understand if their gut reaction was to say "Nuke the b@@@@@@s". Such base ingratitude towards a nation that came to their rescue not once, but twice, beggars belief.

    I think, now, whatever people may have originally have voted for and whatever the reasons for and against, it seems blindingly obvious we need to get out now whilst we still can.

    Then hopefully, when The inevitable happens, and France and Germany decide to light the blue touch paper we might, just might, have a chance of remaining neutral and not getting embroiled in WW3.

    I am just so surprised that the media and/or our precious politicians haven't picked up on this particular piece of sabre rattling. They seem to be quietly ignoring it in the hope it goes away.

    Well it won't.

    It's a warning shot over our bows and we ignore it at our peril. To my knowledge only Farage seems to have noticed the full implications of what they are now demanding and actually said something.

    Once again, lions led by donkeys. So no, not sanguine at all. Whilst I didn't have any particular strong feelings about whether to stay or leave at first because I could see both sides of the argument this latest stunt by Merkel and Co has crystallised my thinking. I genuinely believe we really do need to get out now, deal or no deal.
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    • humptydumptybits
    • By humptydumptybits 15th Nov 18, 4:42 PM
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    I think it was Japan that brought the USA into WWII not any worries about the French.
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 15th Nov 18, 5:13 PM
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    Trying to think how long ago I "knew" this would happen - ie an EU army. I think I was first warned about it about 30 years ago and my first reaction was "Nah - never LOL" - but I changed my mind over subsequent years and thought "They're right you know...".

    So those "warnings" must have been there for years and that's how I've been sitting there expecting it.

    So - not livid - just "Yeah right - and another reason I voted to Leave just proved right".....

    Well hopefully that little comment from Merkel should "light the touchpaper" to shut up those people who keep calling for a second Referendum on this. Perhaps they'll accept our democratic verdict at last and shut up.

    I've been cynically thinking those people trying to push their own personal viewpoint of "Let's have another referendum" have been reading about the way the Welsh voted against devolution by a sizeable majority and "Some people who wanted things the other way" pushed and pushed and pushed and thought "Blow democracy" and had another blinkin' Referendum. As I recall - they lost that one too - but because it was by a small percentage the second time they pushed to have Wales devolved anyway and got their way (for the time being.......).

    That does NOT mean to say "pushers who won't accept democratic verdicts" would manage the same thing again if they keep screaming and yelling their little heads off for another Referendum on this issue.

    So - yep...my verdict has always been "We need to get out - deal or no deal".
    Last edited by moneyistooshorttomention; Yesterday at 5:18 PM.
    Never doubt that a small group of people can change the world.

    It's the only thing that ever has.
    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 15th Nov 18, 5:29 PM
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    I think it was Japan that brought the USA into WWII not any worries about the French.
    Originally posted by humptydumptybits
    Yes I am aware that It was Pearl Harbour that eventually triggered US involvement in World War II. They might not have been involved at all if that had not been the case. Who knows.

    The US was under pressure to enter the arena before then but it's true they did do their damndest to resist getting embroiled. But the fact remains that US troops were engaged in Europe and they did suffer losses, even if they were late to the party.

    Who knows how things might have turned out if both the US and the Russians hadn't eventually pitched in. How much longer could Britain have held out. We will never know.

    One of history's great "what ifs".
    • humptydumptybits
    • By humptydumptybits 15th Nov 18, 5:35 PM
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    They weren't so slow at taking money of Europeans for supplies and equipment. No qualms when they were making money. Many people of many nations were involved in WWII but we have had over 70 years of peace in western Europe and if NATO is an issue then surely europe should be protecting itself.


    We only finished paying the war debts in 2006. It was a great plan, if they thought it was important to US security they kindly allowed other nations to buy equipment from them ensuring security for them and a profit to boot.



    Interestingly if you really want to stop a European army then staying in the EU is the best thing as then we can veto it.
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    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 15th Nov 18, 5:41 PM
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    Possibily you maybe right.

    As I have already said I have no real strong feelings about Brexit either way. I can see advantages and disadvantages in both courses of action.
    • humptydumptybits
    • By humptydumptybits 15th Nov 18, 5:53 PM
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    I've been saying for sometime that my worry is medical/medicine supplies if there is no deal. Health Secretary has apparently said today that there is a chance people will die due to problems if it is a hard brexit. I didn't hear it, he was on lbc apparently so I can't confirm exactly what he said. As someone who needs my meds I'm not happy that people might die, certainly not happy that I might be one of them.


    Of course you know only too well that even people who are well can be struck down without warning so although I have a vested interest other people should be aware of the danger.
    • humptydumptybits
    • By humptydumptybits 15th Nov 18, 5:55 PM
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    Trying to think how long ago I "knew" this would happen - ie an EU army. I think I was first warned about it about 30 years ago and my first reaction was "Nah - never LOL" - but I changed my mind over subsequent years and thought "They're right you know...".

    So those "warnings" must have been there for years and that's how I've been sitting there expecting it.

    So - not livid - just "Yeah right - and another reason I voted to Leave just proved right".....

    Well hopefully that little comment from Merkel should "light the touchpaper" to shut up those people who keep calling for a second Referendum on this. Perhaps they'll accept our democratic verdict at last and shut up.

    I've been cynically thinking those people trying to push their own personal viewpoint of "Let's have another referendum" have been reading about the way the Welsh voted against devolution by a sizeable majority and "Some people who wanted things the other way" pushed and pushed and pushed and thought "Blow democracy" and had another blinkin' Referendum. As I recall - they lost that one too - but because it was by a small percentage the second time they pushed to have Wales devolved anyway and got their way (for the time being.......).

    That does NOT mean to say "pushers who won't accept democratic verdicts" would manage the same thing again if they keep screaming and yelling their little heads off for another Referendum on this issue.

    So - yep...my verdict has always been "We need to get out - deal or no deal".
    Originally posted by moneyistooshorttomention

    Sorry, it won't shut me up and as I said above if you really want to stop a European army then stay in the EU and veto it. Once we are out we have no say.
    • maman
    • By maman 15th Nov 18, 8:50 PM
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    Oh wow, I go out for lunch and the country falls apart (a bit more) while I'm not paying attention.

    I do have strong feelings and opinions on this but one thing I'm absolutely certain of is that nobody voted for this mess. I'm not a particular fan of Mrs May but she has an impossible task. What I think I loathe most of all is that the main driver seems to be the internal politics of her party.

    Someone posted (sorry can't remember who) about feeling powerless. I agree but if we could have some strong leadership soon I think we'll be out on the streets on this.

    I often feel disappointed about the outcome of elections. But that's just 4 years maximum and then we can try again. This is much more serious.
    • humptydumptybits
    • By humptydumptybits 15th Nov 18, 9:08 PM
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    maman is it all your fault for taking your eye off the ball?



    I'm not a fan of May either but I have to say I think she coped well today, she must have had a rough few days and she took a battering in parliament but she held her head up and stood up to them. I have to admire that, credit where credit is due.
    • maman
    • By maman 15th Nov 18, 11:39 PM
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    maman is it all your fault for taking your eye off the ball?



    I'm not a fan of May either but I have to say I think she coped well today, she must have had a rough few days and she took a battering in parliament but she held her head up and stood up to them. I have to admire that, credit where credit is due.
    Originally posted by humptydumptybits
    Agree. I did wonder on Sunday when Dave showed up at the Cenotaph whether she was tempted to say to him 'That's another fine mess......'
    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 16th Nov 18, 8:52 AM
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    Wahoooo. Another 0.5 lb down....

    Slow but sure.......

    Tree surgeons due shortlly.

    Laters.......
    • maman
    • By maman 16th Nov 18, 11:15 AM
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    That's half a pound in the right direction LL. Not bad considering you've eaten out this week too. I always think it's much harder to choose healthy food with a restaurant/pub menu.


    I have an optician's appointment this afternoon. I've had annual checks for years because my mother developed glaucoma in later life. Hopefully all is well with me.


    I went for black jeans, my dark green chiffon blouse and black velvet jacket yesterday. I took my black pashmina with me just in case it was cold in the restaurant but didn't need it. I also made the final decision to keep the black lace bodysuit from New Look. I didn't actually need it but decided I'd enjoy feeling good wearing it under my blouse which is a bit transparent. Much nicer than my bog standard black camisole.
    https://www.newlook.com/uk/womens/clothing/tops/black-sweetheart-neck-lace-bodysuit/p/576100301?extcam=UK_PPC_CSS_Google_DV_c&_cclid=Goo gle_EAIaIQobChMI67rF9uPY3gIVirDtCh2AxAT4EAQYASABEg LXGfD_BwE&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI67rF9uPY3gIVirDtCh2AxA T4EAQYASABEgLXGfD_BwE


    It's surprising that you can feel fab with nice underwear as well as top clothes. I know I've had a lot of pleasure from my Victoria's Secret knickers. Hope that doesn't sound dodgy.




    This weekend promises to be beautifully sunny and the last of the mild weather. I'm hoping we can get out and do something outdoors to enjoy it. No plans yet but I'm sure we'll think of something.
    • humptydumptybits
    • By humptydumptybits 16th Nov 18, 11:19 AM
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    I'm thinking of going to a Christmas Market before the weather gets too cold to enjoy it. Won't be spending anything, well maybe a hot drink, but I do like the atmosphere and to be honest I don't get out in the evening much so will be a nice change.
    • savingfortomorrow
    • By savingfortomorrow 16th Nov 18, 11:58 AM
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    i am going the long awaited trip to the recycling centre. cleaning out the shed was like indiana jones job. i have extra everything left by the last owners. but one step at a time and have decided that i have enough food to motor through a flood or natural disaster thanks to a special on tinned goods. my cupboards look like a survivalist. i only need a touch of duct tape and will be rocking the look. so extra to send on something fab.

    i got the estee lauder christmas box set and looks nice. i need to pan some make up before i even start on that.

    re politics: despite having the Washington post on subscription for a number of years and avid reader of politico ( eu and us), reading newspapers and ect sometimes i like to leave politics at the waters edge as sometimes we can not control the issues. However i can make sure that i still try to be absolutely trying every day to look some what neat and put together.
    • maman
    • By maman 16th Nov 18, 12:23 PM
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    Agree with the feeling powerless as you describe sft . I think the main problem this time is that it's not a 5 year plan. It's going to to affect this country for generations to come.
    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 16th Nov 18, 5:04 PM
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    Ah, duct tape......where would we be without it. solves so many of life's little niggles.

    As you know I worked on site for years. I never went anywhere without a roll of duct tape in my bag. I even took it on interviews so when asked some damn fool question about how I would handle a hypothetical tricky situation I would pull out the roll of duct tape, plonk it on the desk, and say, with a cheeky grin, "well I find this stuff usually works".

    Well the hedge is down. I have gained another four foot wide strip down the length of the garden and at least 12 square feet in one of the corners. Perfect for a little summerhouse. . And although today was dark and dull it has made a huge difference to the amount of light.

    Plumber also came round and helped me plan the bathroom. He had some brilliant ideas on how to rejig the layout. Just need to pop down to builders merchants over the weekend to make my final selections.

    I'm shattered now. So a nice early dinner and maybe watch a nice film, although I'll probably doze through it.

    Word has got out among neighbours that I'm a trained beauty therapist who can do massages. I have been asked if I am taking on clients..........I have said I need to get a bit straighter first.......

    A couple of days a week would suit me fine.

    I have also been asked by a recruitment agency which specialises in supplying negotiators for holiday and sickness cover if I'm interested. I said I would need to do a refresher course for health and safety and maybe some form of computer training. They said they can help out with that, that they have a special 4 day refresher course as part of their programme.

    Sounds good to me. Maybe next spring, when the weather is kinder.
    • maman
    • By maman 16th Nov 18, 5:14 PM
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    Sounds like you've had a very productive day LL. Do let us know when you've decided how to do the bathroom.


    All was well at the optician. Minimal if any change to my eyesight. I'm pleased about that for obvious reasons but also because my Orla Kiely glasses and my Raybans that I bought last year won't need to be changed.


    I took a couple of bags of stuff to the CS. As it was only 2 carriers full I walked to Age Concern. Generally CRUK get most donations locally as they're the only ones with a car park. I also bought a dress while I was in there. It's royal blue velvet with short sleeves and a slightly flared skirt. It'll be nice for dancing.


    Meal plan and shop done so we can eat well for another week.
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