Mooloo’s Managing it in 2018

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  • annandale
    annandale Posts: 1,469 Forumite
    Ask him to ask his ex employer for a letter saying that he lived in when he had the job. That should be easily enough done.

    Ask them to ask their ex employers and current for copies of payslips. If they can't provide that they should be able to get a statement with the relevant information on it.

    Ask them to phone cab. There are other options before bankruptcy I'm sure.
  • annandale
    annandale Posts: 1,469 Forumite
    The biggest argument is that when DS left her the other year, and I paid off the rent arrears then!, his name was supposed to come off of the claim. Housing appear to have argued that he was still living there so her claim was wrong etc. Dispite DS having his own flat in house with his job.
    But as he moved back in with her they are disputing that he ever left. Being as they live in chaos the wage slips seem to have got lost.

    This has been going on for a year. Your son has had a year to phone up and ask for pay slips, a year to phone up and ask for a letter stating that he had a live in job. He obviously has skills as he can hold down a job, why can't he make a phone call to an employer or ex employer asking for duplicate pay slips or a record of money earned in the time he was needing to sort this HB matter out.
    Bad organisation on the DS and gf part has meant letters not opened, dead lines missed. Non cooperation from gf to anyone and DS name was still on all her bills despite Biggest and I helpings him to contact everyone to get his name removed. All appear to be denying we did call them.
    Unfortunately I don't have a record of my calls etc when we did.

    Worse than bad organisation I think. The companies should have a record of the calls, most calls are recorded for training purposes.
    It needs a gather everything together. Every debt. Every bank statement and every wage slip. It needs an SOA immediately.
    It then needs a debt plan.
    Personally I think Bankruptcy might have to be an option. But I am no specialist debt guidance services. I am just a frustrated Mum who is stuck between a rock and a hard place trying to get two dis functional young adults to face the music own up to being in too deep. And be willing to deal with it. But as their relationship is on and off, as the girl's family is not willing to help her in any way other than in front of the social pretend to support her, and Now I am not so willing to accept her. I am not sure what exactly to do next

    They have the skills to hold down a job. They have phones. It takes two minutes to take a photo of your wage slip on your phone and email it to housing benefit

    Do you think they actually understand the financial mess they are in and what the consequences could be for them?

    You aren't stuck between a rock and a hard place. This is awful because its your son and you love him and the kids, I get that. But the more you clear up after them by paying their debts off the less likely they are ever to want to get themselves out of this financial mess.
  • The trouble is annandale, Mooloo's DS is dyslexic so this makes organizing and planning very difficult for him. I know this sounds a convenient excuse but it really is difficult for him.
    I work with clients who appear bright and able but phone calls and planning are an enormous challenge. They manage to hold down jobs but their home life is chaotic and it's not for want of trying.

    I'm not making excuses for all the other extremely poor choices he has made, nor how treats mooloo but just wanted to say that what to you and me appears a simple phone call, or sending off a pay slip every week is a big black mountain to some
    I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once
  • Savvy_sewing
    Savvy_sewing Posts: 11,574 Forumite
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    The trouble is annandale, Mooloo's DS is dyslexic so this makes organizing and planning very difficult for him. I know this sounds a convenient excuse but it really is difficult for him.
    I work with clients who appear bright and able but phone calls and planning are an enormous challenge. They manage to hold down jobs but their home life is chaotic and it's not for want of trying.

    I'm not making excuses for all the other extremely poor choices he has made, nor how treats mooloo but just wanted to say that what to you and me appears a simple phone call, or sending off a pay slip every week is a big black mountain to some

    Exactly. Phone calls, letters, reading writing all Mountains.
    Pour a pint of beer, smile at a customer. No problem.
    But he learned pub work in my Pub from a very early age. He earned his pocket money helping in the cellar and cleaning pipes. Not a piece of paper in sight.
    When I die I will know that I have lived, loved, mattered and made a difference, even if in a small way.
  • annandale
    annandale Posts: 1,469 Forumite
    Understand. But if that is an issue surely someone should be able to help him with this. Don't mean mooloo particularly. If it's the difference between him keeping the roof over his head or not.

    Does the girlfriend have similar issues with reading and writing or is she just chaotic in the way she lives?

    I worked with people with chaotic lifestyles for a long time. I know it's not easy.
  • Savvy_sewing
    Savvy_sewing Posts: 11,574 Forumite
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    I try. I try! But he misses appointments. Looses track of time. Looses his driving license and bank cards, passport and birth certificate.
    He is only marginally better than her!

    I am fed up of trying today. I have a sore throat and have come to bed.
    Luckily it came on after all my running around today.
    Just hope Mum doesn't get it from me as I was with her from 11 till 3.45!

    Now twin 2 is asking for a loan to get her to an appointment tomorrow.

    Now who can I ask for £20 ????? Mmmmmm let me see?
    Erm..... erm ..... nope! Nobody.
    Better do more overtime this week and see if I can make a few things to sell on the Internet then!

    Meanwhile I am going to sleep as I feel a little rough.
    When I die I will know that I have lived, loved, mattered and made a difference, even if in a small way.
  • annandale
    annandale Posts: 1,469 Forumite
    Now twin 2 is asking for a loan to get her to an appointment tomorrow.

    If you say no she will have to ask someone else. Feel better soon
  • dreaming
    dreaming Posts: 1,139 Forumite
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    Mooloo wrote: »
    I try. I try! But he misses appointments. Looses track of time. Looses his driving license and bank cards, passport and birth certificate.
    He is only marginally better than her!
    h

    Hope you feel a little better today. I sympathise with you over disorganised kids, as my eldest and partner (both ASD) are just the same. They are always "forgetting" appointments. I keep telling them to set up reminders on their computers as that is how they spend most of their time. However, eldest is very careful with money, which is good as they lost their PIP and Carer's allowance (partner is in wheelchair) due to missing thir review meeting. New meeting should have happened this week so I just hope they made that one. Her partner can't budget at all and is talking about getting a 72inch tv (for their 12ftX10ft living room which already has 2 computer stations set up!) but eldest is having none of it. I have spent the last 4 years (when eldest lived with me) trying to get her more organised but now they have moved out have taken a step back (well several steps probably) to try to preserve my sanity and our relationship, but it's really hard. I, and they, get no help from my exH (eldest's father) despite me, at times, ringing him and virtually begging on my knees for some help. I also know how difficult it is to get help from official sources.
    I am in the same county as you and am extremely worried about how the cutbacks could affect people in eldest's position (a scenario which seems to be spreading across the counrty) as we (they) were passed back and forth between various departments (housing/adult social services/health services) for several months, although it seems to be resolved for now and they have a council place of their own suitable for the wheelchair.
    Looking at your situation I can see how advice for you to "step back" is well meant, and probably would be the best thing for all of you. Having been in the midst of a similar situation though, I am pretty sure I would be doing what you are and trying everything in my power to help everyone. It looks totally different when you are on the inside of a hellish situation rather than on the outside looking in.
    Best wishes to you all.
  • annandale
    annandale Posts: 1,469 Forumite
    Mooloo is giving them money. Money that she doesn't have to spare. This won't sort the arrears. Her son used a card of hers and ran up 180 pounds worth of debt on it.

    She has given out a lot of money to her kids over the years and she's done it for the best reasons but they probably see her as the go to person when they have messed up and they need bailing out

    Her kids are in their mid to late 20s and I understand the reasons for her being the go to person but it is unfair.

    The money she gives them is money she should be drawing for herself in wages. They are eating into her business profits.

    Posters have been gently advising her for some time on here to say no. It would certainly be the best outcome for her.
  • annandale.... Did you not read Dreamings wonderful explanatory post above?
    Mooloo has 3 children with mental health issues, it must be so hard to deal with, and even harder to ignore.

    Do you have any family members in this position? If yes, do you deal with them in the way you suggest Mooloo does?
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