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    • cherry76
    • By cherry76 18th Jan 19, 5:01 PM
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    Anybody using NHS hearing aid?
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    • 18th Jan 19, 5:01 PM
    Anybody using NHS hearing aid? 18th Jan 19 at 5:01 PM
    Hubby very reluctant agree to try NHS hearing aid to his lt ear. He has some hearing loss but still in denial and says he can hear ok. The problem at home is the tv is loud. Today he got his hearing aid the one with the thin tube behind the ear. It is Oticon BTE and finds it very fiddly to put on and hear whistling sound when on. Is this the norm next appt is in 6 weeks. He has already gave up and I feel he has been wasting the NHS staff time. Thanks
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    • MoneyMate
    • By MoneyMate 18th Jan 19, 7:13 PM
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    • 18th Jan 19, 7:13 PM
    Happy with mine , should only get a whine when you put your hand over the ear thats its fitted too.
    phone up and have your equipment tested at your local centre hospital, you don't have to wait 6 weeks, good luck.
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    • Nearly Old
    • By Nearly Old 18th Jan 19, 7:23 PM
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    I've had NHS hearing aids for over 4 years now and it can take time to get used to them. I seem to have been very fortunate as I had no problems with them from the start and I hadn't realised how bad my hearing had become.

    I've managed to find my original documents which included a Trouble Shooting Guide and there a few causes of Excessive Whistling / Feedback including:

    1. Incorrect ear mould placement (usually not pushed fully into the ear)
    2. Blocked ear mould / dome - clean and replace.
    3. Blocked outlet sound filter - make an appointment to get checked.
    4. Excessive ear wax - see GP


    I found it difficult to push them right into my ears at first until the audiologist put them in a few times and I got brave enough to really push them right in. I wouldn't be without them now as they have made life much easier and I can always take them out when I'm at home which does annoy my wife!
    • Savvy_Sue
    • By Savvy_Sue 18th Jan 19, 10:06 PM
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    • 18th Jan 19, 10:06 PM
    whistling at this stage is almost certainly ear mould not properly in: at our last church we regularly had a lady arrive whistling like a kettle, needing help with putting them in.

    but it can also mean that there's tweaking needed to the settings: I found mine would whistle in response to certain sorts of background music until I had it tweaked.

    They ARE fiddly and it does take time to get used to them, but it is worth persevering. The other thing I'd recommend is finding a local lipreading class: google lipreading plus your town / city / area. Ideally, go together: I'm not sure it improved my lipreading much, but it was SO good to be in the company of people who understood the issues of not hearing properly, and we shared lots of hints and tips on how to manage. And we had some couples go, and I know they found it useful.
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    • By ariba10 18th Jan 19, 10:14 PM
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    Had one for quite a few years.

    Once you get used to to it you would not like to be without it.

    Had no problems with it that the local hospital could not sort out promptly in the twice weekly repair clinic.
    I used to be indecisive but now I am not sure.
    • Savvy_Sue
    • By Savvy_Sue 18th Jan 19, 11:11 PM
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    Had one for quite a few years.

    Once you get used to to it you would not like to be without it.

    Had no problems with it that the local hospital could not sort out promptly in the twice weekly repair clinic.
    Originally posted by ariba10
    But you need to check the local arrangements: ours used to run a drop-in for 'minor repairs' but now it's all appointment based.
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    • By Farway 19th Jan 19, 10:56 AM
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    • 19th Jan 19, 10:56 AM
    Mine originally had a whistle, needed "tweaking" at the clinic, now only whistle is when my ear is near say a car window giving feedback
    • cherry76
    • By cherry76 19th Jan 19, 1:10 PM
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    Thanks for all your replies. I think it is not inserted properly and it is quite fiddly if fingers are not so nimble. He is a very reluctant hearing aid wearer as I have been nagging him for leaving the tv so loud. He says he does not make much difference to his hearing. The audiologist said he has got a bit of dry wax and use olive oil at night. Just wondering could this be the cause if the whistling. Am not sure whether this is good advice as have read that olive oil can block the tube. He has behind the ear with thin tube, any advice and tips will be much appreciated. Thanks
    • MoneyMate
    • By MoneyMate 19th Jan 19, 11:16 PM
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    • 19th Jan 19, 11:16 PM
    The whistling sound you describe as previously mentioned is a simple feed back problem if you cup your hand over hearing aid or put your head near a solid window / back of the chair etc.
    Strongly recommend going back to your original centre to have checked out.
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    • mark88man
    • By mark88man 19th Jan 19, 11:37 PM
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    sadly 4 years in and I'm still struggling, if I'm one to one I don't need them, if I'm one to many then they over amplify the sound and its a nightmare. I've been to the drop ion clinic several times but that doesn't help so now I've given up on them unless its really important but then its quite uncomfortable

    the only good thing about them was it enabled me to get a disabled persons railcard for 20 or so that's saved me thousands getting into London over the years as its valid peak time (but not on season tickets which are already discounted)
    Things happen for a reason. Often because we are stupid & make bad decisions.
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    • Savvy_Sue
    • By Savvy_Sue 20th Jan 19, 1:04 AM
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    It might be worth making another appointment, rather than just going to the drop-in clinic, and going through all your options: I started off with a 'normal' full mould, but didn't get on with that, so they drilled a hole through it to relieve the pressurised feeling it gave me. Then I had it made in a different material to see if that helped. Then I spent a while using 'off the shelf' moulds of various shapes - DH gets on very well with these, but I find they still drive me mad and I'm fiddling with them to relieve a feeling of pressure the whole time.

    now I'm on a sort of half-mould in sparkly pink, which is probably as good as it gets for me. Actually I'm currently unable to use it following a couple of attempts at re-tubing, but that's another story. Back to the clinic next week ...

    I don't find it helps much when there's a lot of background noise, but again, I'd recommend lipreading classes for learning how to cope better with those situations!
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    • Savvy_Sue
    • By Savvy_Sue 20th Jan 19, 9:14 PM
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    There's a hugely useful blog entitled More than a bit deaf, which both you and he might find useful to look at. The author has now had a Cochlear Implant fitted, which has made a huge difference, but the last few posts have been about 'things they don't tell you'. However the 'Survival' link looks very useful.

    Here's the three 'things they don't tell you' posts - more may follow!
    One - noise
    Two - hearing aids don't give back your hearing
    Three - pain

    Other potentially useful blogs are The Limping Chicken and the Cookie Bite Chronicles.
    Still knitting!
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    Current projects: pink balaclava (for myself), seaman's hat, about to start another cardigan!
    • mark88man
    • By mark88man 20th Jan 19, 9:19 PM
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    will have a look!! thanks
    Things happen for a reason. Often because we are stupid & make bad decisions.
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    • pollypenny
    • By pollypenny 21st Jan 19, 8:48 AM
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    Sue, where do you have pressure and discomfort? For me it's behind the year. The damn thing is just too big to sit there along with my glasses.

    I can stick it for four hours maximum, then I yank it out. The whole cartilage is uncomfortable for a good time afterwards.
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    • Savvy_Sue
    • By Savvy_Sue 21st Jan 19, 10:13 AM
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    Sue, where do you have pressure and discomfort? For me it's behind the year. The damn thing is just too big to sit there along with my glasses.

    I can stick it for four hours maximum, then I yank it out. The whole cartilage is uncomfortable for a good time afterwards.
    Originally posted by pollypenny
    It's a mix of things. It's ALWAYS a feeling of pressure and / or itching within the ear, where the mould makes contact.

    But yes, since I started having to wear glasses there is a 'disagreement' between the tube and the ear of my glasses - however I think that might be something the optician could take a look at.

    AND I think that was better when I had an 'off the shelf' mould with a thin tube - but I wasn't wearing glasses so much then. However, apparently I was 'between sizes' for the length of those standard tubes. In theory that ought to be better if the tube's the right length.

    ATM I can't wear it because my attempt at re-tubing left it at the wrong angle, and it was insecure. Unfortunately I didn't really pay enough attention when the technician re-tubed it, tried it on and thought 'oh yes, that feels more secure'. That was because the short length of tube attached to the aid had been forced to the wrong angle, so it's secure, but uncomfortable within a few minutes.

    Back on Wednesday and will show them what angle that short length of tube should be at. I suspect because my mould is unusual, my angle is too ...

    It is a drag going back and forth to try and get it sorted, but every now and again I get a spurt of dissatisfaction going and make a real effort!
    Still knitting!
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    Current projects: pink balaclava (for myself), seaman's hat, about to start another cardigan!
    • cherry76
    • By cherry76 21st Jan 19, 12:30 PM
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    I am at a loss with hubby. I have to put his hearing aid myself but find it very fiddly. He is not very cooperative he has kept it for over 7 hrs but insist it does not make any difference. Personally I think it needs tweaking a bit but he will not go back. Review in 6 weeks. I do not know what to do and need some advice please. Shall I give up or encourage him to give it a try? What can I do if he insists there is nothing wrong with his hearing and he can heard as well without it and he likes to listen to the tv a bit loud. As soon as it is switched on I can hear it whistling, is that the normal? Thanks
    • Savvy_Sue
    • By Savvy_Sue 21st Jan 19, 1:36 PM
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    No, once it's inserted correctly you should not be able to hear whistling. It definitely needs tweaking.

    Some clinics have 'friends' who will do home visits - more experienced hearing aid users who can help with ideas for getting it to fit snugly etc. Could be worth an ask?

    Is it worth mentioning that research has shown a link between untreated hearing loss and dementia? Not causative, but a definite link.
    Still knitting!
    Completed: TWO adult cardigans, 3 baby jumpers, 3 shawls, 1 sweat band, 3 pairs baby bootees, 2 sets of handwarmers, 1 Wise Man Knitivity figure + 1 sheep, 2 pairs socks, 3 balaclavas, multiple hats and poppies, 3 peony flowers, 4 butterflies ...
    Current projects: pink balaclava (for myself), seaman's hat, about to start another cardigan!
    • sukysue
    • By sukysue 6th Feb 19, 8:42 PM
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    Cherry hope you come back to see this , my Mum has very profound deafness , the TV is really loud even with her hearing aids on , we bought her one of these and she can hear the tv with the sound really low or even turned completely off so it doesn't disturb anyone else .
    https://www.actiononhearingloss.org.uk/shop/listening-devices/l585echo-24g-wireless-tv-listener-with-headset/
    xXx-Sukysue-xXx
    • ScarletRibbons
    • By ScarletRibbons 7th Feb 19, 7:54 AM
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    I've had two NHS aids for over 2 years now, and they've been a godsend.

    Like others are saying, he may be getting feedback. There may be hearing aid drop in centres he could go to for adjustment, instead of having to wait.

    I've got a setting to reduce background noise, which is good in crowded places, and the loop setting is excellent in buildings with the loop system. I'd forgotten I had the loop setting, but remembered when I went to a U3A meeting, and turned to the setting - it was wonderful, I didn't miss a thing!!
    • pollypenny
    • By pollypenny 14th Feb 19, 8:55 AM
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    I have even been given a smaller NHS hearing aid. Much more comfortable. I've even forgotten I've got it in a few times.
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