Is buying gold a good idea?

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  • I have a safe in the attic and keep mine in there and as mentioned it can be covered by contents insurance mine was the same as i only have 6 coins ie 6k. Just keep all the purchase receipts
  • phillw
    phillw Posts: 5,593 Forumite
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    ripplyuk wrote: »
    Also, would antiques be more worthwhile to spend to the money on?

    Only if you like them and don't mind the value going down. The same for gold, if you like having gold then buy gold. Just don't expect it will be worth more when you come to sell it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_as_an_investment#/media/File:Gold_price_in_USD.png
  • cjv
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    I thought about buying a little gold as an investment but was always put off by an ounce coin costing say £1000 when the current gold price is £950. It confused me a little and I always assumed that meant an instant £50 loss on an investment.

    I might do some research into it to better educate myself :)
  • phillw
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    edited 9 July 2017 at 10:04PM
    cjv wrote: »
    I might do some research into it to better educate myself :)

    Like any investment, you have to pay brokerage fees/commission/whatever they call it every time you buy or sell. The buy price is £50 over the actual price, the sell price could be £50 below. You'd need to make 10% before you break even. If you're going to keep it for multiple years then it might be worth it. Especially if sterling crashes in 12 months time.

    Gold should be bought at scrap value. When you buy coins/bars/etc sold above scrap value then you are just paying into someone elses pension for them.

    The cheapest way of buying gold is to advertise in the newspaper "cash for gold".
  • DiggerUK
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    As a rule of thumb, you will find buyers will pay 3.5%, and sellers 2%. Any dealers outside that range should be avoided..._
  • qwert_yuiop
    qwert_yuiop Posts: 3,615 Forumite
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    AndyT678 wrote: »
    Gosh - a man who works for a company that buys and sells gold thinks that you should buy gold.

    I wonder why he thinks that?

    I'm sure it must have been because he has your particular best interests at heart. There can't possibly be any other reason can there? :huh:

    You go to a barber and he tells you that you don't need a haircut?
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  • TrustyOven
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    You go to a barber and he tells you that you don't need a haircut?

    What a silly comparison. You're not really helping AndyT678!

    You go to a barber and they say "what would you like? I can do a wide range of different styles." and you either get cut there or go elsewhere.

    Not: "you definitely need a haircut! look, everyone will be laughing at you and bullying you if you dont have your haircut here."
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  • bowlhead99
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    TrustyOven wrote: »
    What a silly comparison. You're not really helping AndyT678!

    You go to a barber and they say "what would you like? I can do a wide range of different styles." and you either get cut there or go elsewhere.
    Well it's a fair analogy.

    If you go to a barber and ask how to improve your look, he probably won't recommend you get a tattoo from next door, or a spray tan from the place next to that, or sign up for classes at the gym across the road, or buy some new shoes or a whole outfit at the shoe shop or boutique down the street... until you've handed over your cash for a haircut. Though all could be useful. Depending on your start point, the best improvement you could buy with this week's pay packet could be from a bunch of other options and leave the hair to grow another few weeks.

    Similarly you won't get unbiased ideas on building a portfolio that grows and protects your wealth across a range of long term economic conditions from someone who runs a gold research and trading firm, because they'll mostly be incentivised to be telling you about things that they know about and that will help them.

    Still, if you've decided that gold is definitely what you are going to get regardless of all the more suitable alternatives, so you need an article that explains gold ETFs vs Brittanias, or Pandas Vs Krugerrands, or the effect of drip feeding versus lump sums for a given theoretical price movement... it makes sense that the guy from the gold company writes the article. He probably know more about it than the guy who can advise on crew cuts Vs short backnsides, or the optician who knows that you should go for squarer lenses as they fit your round face. They could all write articles on their own specialist subject and you might get a better set of articles than if you got generalists to write them.

    Obviously it is still somewhat "buyer beware" if you are reading an article about buying specialist assets written by someone whose salary and investment returns only exist because of demand from people buying those specialist assets. In that sense, its a bit like, if you are looking for wholly unbiased advice on hosting a dinner party, don't expect the guy running the chicken farm to plan your menu entirely impartially and your vegan guests may not be too happy.

    But if you know you definitely want poultry, then he'll probably have some good hints and tips on how to get the skin crispy without overcooking the white meat. You might of course still get nudged towards a particular type of bird that suits his stock levels rather than your wallet or tastebuds.
  • Vaskor
    Vaskor Posts: 12 Forumite
    Just thought I'd throw in two ideas. I'd rather invest in shares or funds long term, but if I had to buy gold, I'd probably do it through a reputable FCA regulated spreadbetting company such as IG.com, whereby you're protected by the FSCS if it folded. Alternatively BullionVault.com has been around since 2007 at least, and has arrangements whereby you can pick up your physical gold from its vaults in London, NY or Zurich if you wanted.
  • surreysaver
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    I consider myself to be a male feminist. Is that allowed?
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