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    • DWhite
    • By DWhite 4th May 19, 10:02 PM
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    Buying loose fruit and veg
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    • 4th May 19, 10:02 PM
    Buying loose fruit and veg 4th May 19 at 10:02 PM
    Apologies if this has already been asked before. I’m a regular lurker on here and I’m fairly sure I haven’t seen it.
    I’m a child of the 80’s. I remember going to shops and the fruit/veg etc being sold loose. You’d choose how much and which ones. Like potatoes still are now...
    Does anywhere exist that still does this? I find it so frustrating to have it dictated to me how much of something is in a pack. Not to mention the excess packaging! I live alone and fill one, sometimes two recycling bags a week plus a black bag of general waste that can’t be recycled.
    I don’t have lots of disposable income to spend on organic places, or specialist places etc just wondering if there’s such a place as grocers/supermarkets that still do this?

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    • Fire Fox
    • By Fire Fox 10th May 19, 10:43 PM
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    What annoys me is when I go to Mr Ts that bagged apples, for example, are cheaper than the loose ones! You then have to put them in a plastic bag which quite honestly defeats the object of buying loose!

    Denise
    Originally posted by joedenise
    Unfortunately plastic wrapping extends the life of many fruits and vegetables, so there is less wasted produce throughout the supply chain. That alone saves the company money.

    Why do you have to put loose produce in a new plastic bag? If you do not want a new bag, take your own reused bags or just use your hands.

    Please do not try to recycle different plastics together unless they are supposed to be, check the rules/ guidelines carefully. Too much recycling ends up as landfill because it is contaminated by incorrectly recycled items.
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    • SunMoonStars
    • By SunMoonStars 11th May 19, 7:13 AM
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    The co-op is now selling more produce loose and they are generally cheaper than buying pre-bagged. Mind you, that’s not saying much as it is an expensive shop, but it’s the only shop here so there isn’t an alternative.

    I buy red peppers loose from there and they usually just go straight in the basket rather than taking a wee plastic produce bag. But I wanted to use one raw the other day and it occurred to me I maybe shouldn’t. The baskets are probably a food hygiene nightmare, what with leaky chicken packaging, meat juice, ready meals. Not ideal. You try your best...
    Last edited by SunMoonStars; 11-05-2019 at 7:22 AM.
    • JackieO
    • By JackieO 11th May 19, 7:41 AM
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    My local big Tescos seem to have stopped using paper bags to use for mushrooms it's a plastic bag, or take your own .

    A week or so ago a young woman in front of me at the till bought her fruit and veg and then promptly removed it all from the plastic wrap and gave it to the assistant who looked a bit perplexed and said 'I don't want it' ,to which this young lass said , 'Well neither do I' and put all of her stuff into several cloth bags, and walked out of the shop to a round of applause from the other customers

    I take as many of my own bags as possible if I am buying fresh fruit and veg but I have never been brave enough to actually bin the surplus plastic at the shop

    There used to be a greengrocers locally and also a street market but they have become rare than hens teeth where I live sadly, which is odd as I live in the Garden of England I believe the nearest market to me now is the WI one which is 6 miles away and only open on a Thursday morning for two hours where surplus stuff is sold and a bit of a high price

    people today have to shop with their feet for value and price so thats probably why the big SM have such a captive customer base.
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    • Prinzessilein
    • By Prinzessilein 11th May 19, 9:54 AM
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    I have a VERY limited choice of shops...an M&S with a small but excellent foodhall and a Tesco Metro which is truly dire.(I have now n the Tesco to have 3 aisles of Seasonal cakes/chocolates...but no milk)

    No idea where the nearest Sainsburys is...but the COOP, Big Tesco and Morrisons are all too far away - as are ASDA, Aldi and Lidl...choice becomes very narrow when you are disabled with no car, and a busstop that is 'conveniently' placed about 20 minutes walk away.

    We used to have a thriving market, in fact there were 2 of them. One closed a few years and the other about a year ago. Thankfully there IS a fruit and Veg stall and van that may/may not open/turn up..not a big variety but at least it is a start.

    Last time I wanted to make Sauerkraut I had to wait 3 weeks until a local supermarket (M&S as it happens) got a white cabbage in...it's not that I'm looking for 'exotic' veg!!!!...although some Yam or Plantain would be lovely once or twice a year as a treat!)

    I have looked into online shopping...but when you look at places that deliver to us the choice of fresh fruit and veg is not much better...and of course you rely on picker-packers to choose your fruit and veg, and I want to do that myself!

    I used to have a regular veg box delivered-that was FANTASTIC! Sadly, I moved to a place that is not on the delivery route for boxes!
    • Pollycat
    • By Pollycat 11th May 19, 9:57 AM
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    Do we know yet where the OP is shopping, what shops he has access to and what fruit/veg he usually buys?
    • Farway
    • By Farway 11th May 19, 10:28 AM
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    Yes, I am irked by the price for loose pet kg being greater than bagged.
    Originally posted by kerri gt
    Just guessing but I think there may be higher wastage with loose than bagged, us naughty shoppers picking the best out & leaving the not so good behind
    With bagged you don't get to pick & choose your choice
    • Fire Fox
    • By Fire Fox 11th May 19, 12:08 PM
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    No idea where the nearest Sainsburys is...but the COOP, Big Tesco and Morrisons are all too far away - as are ASDA, Aldi and Lidl...choice becomes very narrow when you are disabled with no car, and a busstop that is 'conveniently' placed about 20 minutes walk away.
    Originally posted by Prinzessilein
    For anyone who does not drive I can recommend living in a city centre. My street and the surrounding ones are wall-to-wall bus stops.

    At the other end Morries and the Asda 'supercentre' have bus stops very close to the main door. The slightly smaller Asda 'superstore' has poor bus stop provision (several mins walk), and big Tescon would be difficult for a wheelchair user (two shallow steps with hand rail to/ from the bus stop). My nearest Lidl has much better access for non-drivers than my nearest Aldi.

    TBH though, around here it is not uncommon for people who do not drive to travel home with a big supermarket shop in a taxi.

    Last time I wanted to make Sauerkraut I had to wait 3 weeks until a local supermarket (M&S as it happens) got a white cabbage in...it's not that I'm looking for 'exotic' veg!!!!...although some Yam or Plantain would be lovely once or twice a year as a treat!)
    Originally posted by Prinzessilein
    If you can get red cabbage you can make even healthier sauerkraut with that.
    Last edited by Fire Fox; 11-05-2019 at 12:11 PM.
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    • Farway
    • By Farway 11th May 19, 1:34 PM
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    TBH though, around here it is not uncommon for people who do not drive to travel home with a big supermarket shop in a taxi.
    Originally posted by Fire Fox

    Same round here, though I suspect that is more to do with the high bus fares than bus stop locations
    • suki1964
    • By suki1964 11th May 19, 9:16 PM
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    The co-op is now selling more produce loose and they are generally cheaper than buying pre-bagged. Mind you, thatís not saying much as it is an expensive shop, but itís the only shop here so there isnít an alternative.

    I buy red peppers loose from there and they usually just go straight in the basket rather than taking a wee plastic produce bag. But I wanted to use one raw the other day and it occurred to me I maybe shouldnít. The baskets are probably a food hygiene nightmare, what with leaky chicken packaging, meat juice, ready meals. Not ideal. You try your best...
    Originally posted by SunMoonStars
    I take it you have a clean water supply to the house? A wash of said produce usually works


    When I was a child, in the 70s, Id take the shopping trolly ( bag on wheels ) and head to the market and first stop was Georgie Mays and 10lb of spuds, tipped straight in, then the onions, carrots, cabbage etc, followed by the next stall up and the fruit and salad veg - weighed and tipped right on in

    From there, away up to Liptons to get the ham and cheese ( wrapped in paper and straight on top of everything else I had,) then the pet shop to get the fido meat for the cat, which was slabs of the most revolting stuff you have ever seen or smelt, sold by the pound, wrapped in newspaper

    Im still alive 40 years later

    Seriously, Ive worked in Supermarkets, Restaurants and food preparation for the majority of my life. Putting loose fruit and veg in a basket really is the least of your worries
    if you lend someone £20 and never see that person again, it was probably worth it
    • Prinzessilein
    • By Prinzessilein 12th May 19, 8:54 AM
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    For anyone who does not drive I can recommend living in a city centre. My street and the surrounding ones are wall-to-wall bus stops.

    At the other end Morries and the Asda 'supercentre' have bus stops very close to the main door. The slightly smaller Asda 'superstore' has poor bus stop provision (several mins walk), and big Tescon would be difficult for a wheelchair user (two shallow steps with hand rail to/ from the bus stop). My nearest Lidl has much better access for non-drivers than my nearest Aldi.

    TBH though, around here it is not uncommon for people who do not drive to travel home with a big supermarket shop in a taxi.



    If you can get red cabbage you can make even healthier sauerkraut with that.
    Originally posted by Fire Fox
    Red Cabbage...I wish!!!!...Mum and I snaffle them up whenever they appear in the stores...we love it as a veg, cooked with apple...In earlier days, I used it in a sort of winter-coleslaw....and yes, I would happily ferment it!...but it is less available than the white sort!

    As for living near the town centre...iy's not a choice I have...on disability grounds I was moved into a sheltered retirement complex ...a good few years younger than all other residents, but I have a ground-floor flat with level access shower, which is what I need!

    I'm really not complaining...I was thrilled to be offered this place...but beings as 90% of the residents here are old and less-than-mobile it would have been nice for the council to put a busstop nearby!
    • LadyDee
    • By LadyDee 12th May 19, 9:10 AM
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    Apologies if this has already been asked before. Iím a regular lurker on here and Iím fairly sure I havenít seen it.
    Iím a child of the 80ís. I remember going to shops and the fruit/veg etc being sold loose. Youíd choose how much and which ones. Like potatoes still are now...
    Does anywhere exist that still does this? I find it so frustrating to have it dictated to me how much of something is in a pack. Not to mention the excess packaging! I live alone and fill one, sometimes two recycling bags a week plus a black bag of general waste that canít be recycled.
    I donít have lots of disposable income to spend on organic places, or specialist places etc just wondering if thereís such a place as grocers/supermarkets that still do this?
    Originally posted by DWhite
    I am fortunate enough to have a market within a short bus ride - where I get as much of my fruit & veg as possible. I refuse to buy a bag of apples when I only want three, a handful of sprouts in a plastic bag for £1, Jersey potatoes in plastic (which taste nothing like Jersey Royals) and of all things - bananas wrapped in plastic!
    • 2childmum2
    • By 2childmum2 12th May 19, 1:16 PM
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    For the few fruit and veg sold loose in my local supermarket I use the compostible bin liners. I have a roll in my shopping bags, put the loose stuff in there and then use them in the compost caddy when i get home.

    But I do object to paying so much more for the loose stuff than the pre-packaged stuff, and I can't get everything I want loose. Different supermarkets seem to have different things loose - i could spend all day travelling from one to the other - and creating car emissions as I go.

    I also stand in the shop looking at bananas, wondering whether it is better to buy Fair-trade in plastic, or 'normal' ones loose!
    • -taff
    • By -taff 12th May 19, 3:07 PM
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    Prinzessilein - can you put up a notice for a car share, or a taxi share somewhere so a few of you can go, have a root around a big supermarket, coffee out, that kind of thing...Maybe some of the other residents would be interested.
    • Farway
    • By Farway 12th May 19, 4:03 PM
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    I also stand in the shop looking at bananas, wondering whether it is better to buy Fair-trade in plastic, or 'normal' ones loose!
    Originally posted by 2childmum2
    If one near you, all W/rose bananas are Fairtrade, the ones heavily marketed as such are in plastic, the loose ones are still F'trade
    Price is comparable to all S/m bananas, I guess there is stiff competition on them
    • Fire Fox
    • By Fire Fox 12th May 19, 4:14 PM
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    As for living near the town centre...iy's not a choice I have...on disability grounds I was moved into a sheltered retirement complex ...a good few years younger than all other residents, but I have a ground-floor flat with level access shower, which is what I need!

    I'm really not complaining...I was thrilled to be offered this place...but beings as 90% of the residents here are old and less-than-mobile it would have been nice for the council to put a busstop nearby!
    Originally posted by Prinzessilein
    I did not read it as you complaining, but as you being frustrated IYSWIM. I am glad you 'voiced' that because it gave me a slightly different perspective on accessibility around my city.

    Red Cabbage...I wish!!!!...Mum and I snaffle them up whenever they appear in the stores...we love it as a veg, cooked with apple...In earlier days, I used it in a sort of winter-coleslaw....and yes, I would happily ferment it!...but it is less available than the white sort!
    Originally posted by Prinzessilein
    What a shame.

    It often seems illogical what we can or cannot get hold of locally. Like you, I have an M&S Food Hall close by so some uncommon veggies are available, yet staples can be unavailable or only in an eyewateringly expensive format.

    I went to several mini/ express supermarkets looking for celery hearts the other day. No hearts or whole heads but they all have a few sticks for £1! I guess there is insufficient profit in longer life basics like cabbage and celery that have not been prepped.

    Same round here, though I suspect that is more to do with the high bus fares than bus stop locations
    Originally posted by Farway
    Yes there is definitely a trade-off between cost and convenience. Taxi fares in my city have increased so much less than bus fares over the last decade.

    The main bus company here is really pushing e-tickets on smartphones, which obviously makes sharing a daily or weekly ticket much less likely.
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    • lizzybiff
    • By lizzybiff 15th May 19, 6:34 AM
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    I buy my loose fruit and veg from Asda
    • HelenPetersBeads
    • By HelenPetersBeads 15th May 19, 8:54 AM
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    Our local Tesco has some, but not all, fruit and veg sold loose. I can buy my bananas and broccoli either wrapped or unwrapped, so choose unwrapped. Brussels sprouts need to go in a bag whether I pick them myself (if they decide to have loose ones) or if they come already packed, just to stop them running away from each other in the basket/trolley and for ease.
    However what bugs me is that large veg e.g. a whole cabbage or cauliflower has to be prepackaged in an open bag. If broccoli can be sold loose then why not cauli or cabbage?

    Our local Aldi (with the overflowing car park causing all sorts of road 'issues') sells ONLY prepackaged fruits and veg. Easier to get through the till quickly as there's no weighing needed.
    • judexx
    • By judexx 15th May 19, 11:12 AM
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    However what bugs me is that large veg e.g. a whole cabbage or cauliflower has to be prepackaged in an open bag. If broccoli can be sold loose then why not cauli or cabbage?

    .
    Originally posted by HelenPetersBeads
    Our local Sainsbury recently started selling cauliflowers loose with no packaging- so things may be changing
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