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    • Louis34
    • By Louis34 16th Apr 19, 3:16 PM
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    CPS letter
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    • 16th Apr 19, 3:16 PM
    CPS letter 16th Apr 19 at 3:16 PM
    A keeper of a car had just received a letter from Combined parking solutions issuing a ‘notice to keeper’ letter stating that a fine should be payed or legal action will be taken etc etc. What should said keeper do in terms of the letter? There is an appeal link to do with ‘theIAS’ but unsure of what to do/ write to appeal and succeed. No intention of paying the fine due to private land car park. Any help or links would be appreciated, also cannot find ‘newbies’ thread as have seen a lot about that it terms of helpfulness....
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    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 16th Apr 19, 3:24 PM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 3:24 PM
    You cannot find the NEWBIES thread??

    Go back to that screen where you found the Start New Thread button and look down the list of threads until you find one entitled:
    **NEWBIES!! PRIVATE PARKING TICKET? OLD OR NEW? **READ THESE FAQS FIRST!** Thankyou!
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    • BrownTrout
    • By BrownTrout 16th Apr 19, 3:26 PM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 3:26 PM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 3:26 PM
    This company is partly run by our old friend Perky (those who remember ) and partial to a court claim or 2
    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 16th Apr 19, 3:27 PM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 3:27 PM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 3:27 PM
    Everyone is asked to read up on this in the newbies faq thread near the top of the forum before starting a new thread

    Go there now and spend some time learning about the game you are now caught up in and how to deal with this

    Bear in mind that you are dealing with an IPC company, and that appeals are futile.

    After sending the initial appeal template you will find in the faq you ignore everything except the lbcca or court correspondence.

    If/when it comes to that come back to the FAQ for advice on court claims at that time
    • BrownTrout
    • By BrownTrout 16th Apr 19, 3:49 PM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 3:49 PM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 3:49 PM
    This company is harder to beat then most others due to their signage (in a court claim )
    • Louis34
    • By Louis34 16th Apr 19, 4:42 PM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 4:42 PM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 4:42 PM
    The keeper doesn’t have the pcn as there was no ticket on the car when they came back but the letter says a pcn was attached to the car, can anything be done to this as without it they can’t begin the appeal process?
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 16th Apr 19, 4:46 PM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 4:46 PM
    This company is partly run by our old friend Perky (those who remember ) and partial to a court claim or 2
    Originally posted by BrownTrout
    We remember - and you and I both know who is 'friends' with Perky - a very cosy arrangement, I understand.



    can anything be done to this as without it they can’t begin the appeal process?
    There is no appeal worth trying - you know that from reading the NEWBIES thread first, and realising this is an IPC firm.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
    • Louis34
    • By Louis34 16th Apr 19, 4:49 PM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 4:49 PM
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    So shall I pay the fine because it’s an IPC firm and they will just reject the appeal?
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 16th Apr 19, 4:51 PM
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    So shall I pay the fine because it’s an IPC firm and they will just reject the appeal?
    Originally posted by Louis34
    No. Why would you want to do that?

    They reject the appeal... so what? That doesn't mean any money is owed.
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 16th Apr 19, 4:52 PM
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    It's not a fine but depending on the signs, CPS might win in court.

    Unusually, they sometimes use signs that offer a 'contract to all' to park for £100.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
    • Louis34
    • By Louis34 16th Apr 19, 4:57 PM
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    What can be done without a pcn number as no ticket was ever noticed?
    • waamo
    • By waamo 16th Apr 19, 5:09 PM
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    What can be done without a pcn number as no ticket was ever noticed?
    Originally posted by Louis34
    The NTK should have all the details you need. What you need them for I don't really know but they should be there.
    This space for hire.
    • BrownTrout
    • By BrownTrout 16th Apr 19, 5:26 PM
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    We remember - and you and I both know who is 'friends' with Perky - a very cosy arrangement, I understand.




    There is no appeal worth trying - you know that from reading the NEWBIES thread first, and realising this is an IPC firm.
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad
    Yes I can well believe that
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 16th Apr 19, 5:57 PM
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    This is not a fine. It is an invoice for the damage they claim they suffered when you allegedly breached an alleged contract, we call it a scam.

    Judges are familiar with the scam, as are MPs, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these private parking companies. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, and persistent offenders denied access. Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers.

    Until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

    Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • BrownTrout
    • By BrownTrout 16th Apr 19, 6:05 PM
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    Actually no the deep.this Is not your every day parking charge..
    • Louis34
    • By Louis34 7th Jun 19, 3:29 PM
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    after receiving the initial letter from the parking company, said person chose to ignore such a letter due to never seeing any form of notice charge on the car. Now a debt collection letter has come through regarding that if the fee isn’t payed by 18/6/19 then they will suggest to the parking company to take said person to court. What action should be taken now, if any? Parking charge company are CPS and the debt collection letter is from DRP. No PCN number is known as no ticket was ever given, no PCN number is on letter so not challenge could be made
    • waamo
    • By waamo 7th Jun 19, 4:01 PM
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    Any challenge would have been utterly futile so it hasn't disadvantaged you.

    All you can do is wait and see if they issue a court claim. If you get a Letter Before Claim come back for further advice. A proper LBC contains financial information forms. If it doesn't have those forms it's not an LBC.
    This space for hire.
    • Louis34
    • By Louis34 7th Jun 19, 9:44 PM
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    After reading the newbies file it seemed that the appealing to the specific type of company wouldn’t have had any influence. What will happen if it does go to court? Likelihood of winning?
    • BrownTrout
    • By BrownTrout 7th Jun 19, 9:52 PM
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    Well let's the crystal ball out
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 7th Jun 19, 9:52 PM
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    We've already said a PCN from CPS is 'not your every day parking charge' and commented that ''This company is partly run by Perky - partial to a court claim or 2''.

    I also told you in post #10 that they might win if they try, due to the signage.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT UNLESS IN SCOTLAND OR NI
    TWO Clicks needed Look up, top of the page:
    Main site>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
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