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Well my post was nothing to do with what anyone had written on this forum is was an answer to the OP concerning building more houses. I keep seeing statements about governments building more houses but governments don't build houses builders do so if we don't have enough construction workers we won't be getting anymore houses.

There is nothing wrong with people educating themselves but media studies, film studies, fashion, ceramics (pots not semi conductors,) performing arts etc used to be available as evening class subjects so there was no need for anyone to study them at university. In fact more people get the opportunity to study these subject if they are evening classes because they can be studied by people who are working. As these subjects don't lead to jobs but are studied for the benefit of the person there is no need for them to be degree subjects because if you are studying something that doesn't lead to a job you don't need to be awarded recognition that you have studied it. So I think that these hobby type subjects should be studied at evening class rather than at university and someone who is studying for their own interest doesn't need to be awarded a degree. I would also open up study to more of the population. You could argue that studying these subjects shouldn't just be available to people who can afford to not work for 3 years to go to university.

The universities that offer these courses tend to be the ones that don't offer a traditional level of graduate education because the entry requirements are too low for that and the courses tend to be aimed at the kind of student who would not be able to complete a traditional type degree course because it would be too difficult. This means that any subjects currently taught by these universities will be accessible to most of the population if they were taught as evening classes instead. The benefit of this is that people could then work while studying the subject so that they could concentrate on training for a job.

There are too many universities and not enough colleges that train people in skills. If the 70 or so universities that offer the subjects that could be done at evening class were converted back into the kind of colleges that offered training in subjects that lead to real jobs the people who wanted to study the kind of subjects offered at the universities where the degrees don't lead to a job could still study the subjects at evening class but they would also be able to do study and training during the day to lead to a job.

The situation where someone mentioned poor people mending toilets amused me. People who mend other people's toilets are not poor. Plumbers are not poor. Plumbing is an extremely well paid job especially at the moment when there is a shortage of people training to be plumbers. It has always been a well paid job. Plumbing is a skilled job. There is more skill needed to do all the trades than to get a degree from the 70 or so universities that offer the kind of degrees that aren't worth anything.

itchyfeet123 wrote: »

My more cynical view is staff are incentivised to make it as difficult as possible for people to get what they're entitled to.

In my experience (mainly dealing with tax credits issues) it's more likely to be incompetance. Or bad training. UC is fairly new, most tax credits staff don't seem to understand how they work after 14 years.

cashbackproblems wrote: »

but the country is almost bankrupt, we are no longer a power house and can afford to keep people in the level they are at if out of work. Its personal responsibility to save enough for a rainy day and not rely on the state.
The housing problem is another issue and something which will not get sorted out whatever governments say. Immigration, BTL, single person households, cheap credit all created the problem

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

It really isn't, don't believe the propaganda.

cashbackproblems wrote: »

No propaganda im an accountant and see that we borrow 90bn just to pay the interest on the debt

You obviously want a benefit life

I could have sworn that this time last year we were all being told how the UK was the 5th or 6th richest economy, but in less than 12 months we're bankrupt. How did that happen so quickly?

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