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    • hubb
    • By hubb 17th Aug 19, 10:41 AM
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    Ebay is dead
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    • 17th Aug 19, 10:41 AM
    Ebay is dead 17th Aug 19 at 10:41 AM
    Well I have to say after putting many varied and vintage collectable items (star wars/dr who/comics/books/dvd/etc etc) that Ebay is dead. 20 years ago I could make a small fortune on anything of this nature I listed. 20 years on, the items are even more vintage and its crap. hardly any views, and the ones with watches never become a single sale.

    So RIP Ebay

    Any other good site to sell that are better than Ebay and do not rob you as much with their fees ?
    Last edited by hubb; 19-08-2019 at 7:27 AM.
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    • RFW
    • By RFW 25th Aug 19, 7:59 PM
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    That is such a double edged sword. I used to use Amazon for most things but have never felt the need nor desire to get a Prime subscription. Without one Amazon make you feel like a second class citizen and try every trick in the book to fool you into subscribing to Prime that I seldom visit these days. And if I do visit I try to seek out any interesting vendors' own websites to buy from (which are often cheaper than the same items on Amazon or eBay).

    SP
    Originally posted by StumpyPumpy
    I'm often surprised that any Amazon customers don't have a Prime account these days. With the TV and music available as well as the better Amazon service it's good value. Obviously if you don't use the additional services and rarely buy then I can see the lack of value.


    My own website is still a work in progress, I'm too busy on Amazon to get round to sorting it out. The time and money I need to spend to get it to even approach 10% of the business I do on Amazon would be quite high.
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    • Enterprise 1701C
    • By Enterprise 1701C 26th Aug 19, 7:09 AM
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    I don't sell on Ebay.

    Not down to the fees or anything like that. It is down to the way complaints are handled. So many people I know have sent out a brand new item, had a complaint that it is "not as described" or some other silly thing, been forced to pay for the return and refund, only to receive an item that is either totally different or an older version of the item they sent out. Ebay seems to back these fraudulent claims rather than their sellers.

    I have a lot of things I would like to sell, but, as long as Ebay acts in this way, I will never sell on ebay.

    Too many less than honest people have worked out they can get new items or replacement items for free with just a little bit of effort. How can that be good for the honest people in the majority amongst us?
    What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare
    • RFW
    • By RFW 26th Aug 19, 8:06 AM
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    I don't sell on Ebay.

    Not down to the fees or anything like that. It is down to the way complaints are handled. So many people I know have sent out a brand new item, had a complaint that it is "not as described" or some other silly thing, been forced to pay for the return and refund, only to receive an item that is either totally different or an older version of the item they sent out. Ebay seems to back these fraudulent claims rather than their sellers.

    I have a lot of things I would like to sell, but, as long as Ebay acts in this way, I will never sell on ebay.

    Too many less than honest people have worked out they can get new items or replacement items for free with just a little bit of effort. How can that be good for the honest people in the majority amongst us?
    Originally posted by Enterprise 1701C
    I've never had that experience as a seller. I know it happens but it isn't prevalent.
    Ebay aren't going to change. Who would want to buy on a site that when a customer says they've received the wrong item the seller says "Tough"?
    There isn't a middle way, it's either side with the buyer or with the seller. If you want customers you side with the buyer.
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    • coffeehound
    • By coffeehound 26th Aug 19, 8:22 AM
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    So many people I know have sent out a brand new item, had a complaint that it is "not as described" or some other silly thing, been forced to pay for the return and refund, only to receive an item that is either totally different or an older version of the item they sent out. Ebay seems to back these fraudulent claims rather than their sellers.
    Originally posted by Enterprise 1701C
    Is the seller allowed to state that in feedback for the fraudulent buyer?
    • soolin
    • By soolin 26th Aug 19, 8:30 AM
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    Is the seller allowed to state that in feedback for the fraudulent buyer?
    Originally posted by coffeehound
    Sellers can only leave positives for buyers, if a seller leaves a comment that breaches that rule then buyer can get it removed and seller gets a warning.
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    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 26th Aug 19, 9:31 AM
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    I've never had that experience as a seller. I know it happens but it isn't prevalent.
    Ebay aren't going to change. Who would want to buy on a site that when a customer says they've received the wrong item the seller says "Tough"?
    There isn't a middle way, it's either side with the buyer or with the seller. If you want customers you side with the buyer.
    Originally posted by RFW
    Me neither, but my brother sent an item, the buyer sent a message saying he hadn't even opened it, and was sending it back, and opened a not as described case. My brother had to pay for the return postage even though he won an appeal.
    • StumpyPumpy
    • By StumpyPumpy 26th Aug 19, 9:49 AM
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    I'm often surprised that any Amazon customers don't have a Prime account these days. With the TV and music available as well as the better Amazon service it's good value. Obviously if you don't use the additional services and rarely buy then I can see the lack of value.
    Originally posted by RFW
    Exactly this. We have zero interest in watching TV or continually updating our music collection and in my, admittedly limited, view these days Amazon is seldom cheaper than elsewhere unless you absolutely need next day delivery and we never do.

    Therefore, we do not consider ourselves Amazon customers any more. It used to be my first port of call for online purchasing and I had an amazon.com account long before there was a .co.uk equivalent. I can't imagine ever buying enough cheap items online to justify spending nearly £100 a year to get "free postage". All it does is make people funnel all their spending through a single market place in the often erroneous belief that they are getting a better bargain than they can get elsewhere: the annual subscription comes out of a different mental budget so it can be discounted.

    Of course none of the above is valid if you spend a lot of time watching TV anyway so would otherwise throw your money at Netflix, BT TV or Sky then the free postage is a bonus. But as I said, we don't watch TV so Amazon for us is one of the most expensive ways to buy things online and we simply don't visit it any more.

    SP
    Come on people, it's not difficult: lose means to be unable to find, loose means not being fixed in place. So if you have a hole in your pocket you might lose your loose change.
    • RFW
    • By RFW 26th Aug 19, 11:37 PM
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    Exactly this. We have zero interest in watching TV or continually updating our music collection and in my, admittedly limited, view these days Amazon is seldom cheaper than elsewhere unless you absolutely need next day delivery and we never do.

    Therefore, we do not consider ourselves Amazon customers any more. It used to be my first port of call for online purchasing and I had an amazon.com account long before there was a .co.uk equivalent. I can't imagine ever buying enough cheap items online to justify spending nearly £100 a year to get "free postage". All it does is make people funnel all their spending through a single market place in the often erroneous belief that they are getting a better bargain than they can get elsewhere: the annual subscription comes out of a different mental budget so it can be discounted.

    Of course none of the above is valid if you spend a lot of time watching TV anyway so would otherwise throw your money at Netflix, BT TV or Sky then the free postage is a bonus. But as I said, we don't watch TV so Amazon for us is one of the most expensive ways to buy things online and we simply don't visit it any more.

    SP
    Originally posted by StumpyPumpy
    It's interesting. As an Amazon seller I don't always see if the customer is a Prime member or not, I can't officially see that information but can tell if the customer has paid for postage.


    Incidentally you can buy from marketplace sellers who aren't using Amazon to send their goods.

    I often have items listed sent from my own warehouse if I can.

    The postage for that makes no difference if you have a Prime account or not. There's at least one good seller doing that (me!) and actually quite a lot of others. You may sometimes have to go past the buy box to find the other sellers. On many occasions the price would be less than Amazon's too (I usually have the same price for sending myself or via Amazon).
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    • hubb
    • By hubb 9th Sep 19, 8:58 AM
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    Yep, its dead. More and more items, some brand new boxed and nothing.
    • RFW
    • By RFW 9th Sep 19, 9:12 AM
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    Yep, its dead. More and more items, some brand new boxed and nothing.
    Originally posted by hubb
    Have you thought of a career in comedy?
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    • SuperMoose
    • By SuperMoose 9th Sep 19, 9:23 AM
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    Have you thought of a career in comedy?
    Originally posted by RFW
    The problem is they only know one joke
    Please put out food and water for the birds and hedgehogs
    • Gary123456790
    • By Gary123456790 9th Sep 19, 3:06 PM
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    My ebay sales are building year on year. It is not my full time profession, more a part time enterprise but the way its going I should be able to make it part of my full time job within the next year or 2.

    I sell regular items, things I can buy in bulk and sell at a decent profit. The market changes though, people come into your space and try to undercut you, some succeed and some fail if their offering is not as good as you. Often its a game of cat and mouse with other sellers.

    It is good fun and there is money to be made but you have to constantly evolve how you do things, if you stay the same you get overtaken.
    • soolin
    • By soolin 9th Sep 19, 9:21 PM
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    Yep, its dead. More and more items, some brand new boxed and nothing.
    Originally posted by hubb
    At least someone agrees with your opening post, even if it is you. As you have been posting the same thing now for years don't you think it's time for you to give up on eBay and find a different venue? Books died for me several years back, and I was out of that market within 4 months of noting the huge downturn, I certainly wouldn't keep trying for a decade .

    I can assure you that when eBay finally does for me, I will be out of there and o to something new within a a few months.

    Find a new venue, or a different way to make a bit of money on the side.
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    • Thrugelmir
    • By Thrugelmir 10th Sep 19, 5:19 PM
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    Trading in collectables has changed. As people literally die off. Collections come back to the market , often via auction houses. Where it's possible to buy job lots at reasonable prices.

    I stopped selling via Ebay some years ago. Fees simply became unbearable. Instead attending specialist shows in person. Met the same people that I was selling to online. Easier way of doing business. Though there was a noticable decline in footfall over the years. Likewise number of traders diminshed. Age catches up with us all.
    “If the financial system has a defect, it is that it reflects and magnifies what we human beings are like. Money amplifies our tendency to overreact, to swing from exuberance when things are going well to deep depression when they go wrong. Booms and busts are products, at root, of our emotional volatility.”
    ― Niall Ferguson
    • hubb
    • By hubb 16th Sep 19, 12:51 PM
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    "If you expect the worst, you'll never be disappointed" - Sarah Dessen

    Like I said. Ebay is DEAD!!!
    • twhitehousescat
    • By twhitehousescat 16th Sep 19, 12:59 PM
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    "If you expect the worst, you'll never be disappointed" - Sarah Dessen

    Like I said. Ebay is DEAD!!!
    Originally posted by hubb
    no its not

    I have sold my last homing pigeon 9 times in the last 2 mths ,
    Time pretending I was asleep whilst under his desk , has given me insight to this sordid world
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