Prepping for Brexit thread

silver-oldie wrote: »

I have been following but haven't posted.

As others have said, we don't know what happen. I'm sure some-one will shout at me for saying this but in some ways I think some good may come from this.
In the area I live, we regularly hear the fruit growers and farmers saying when we leave next year the crops will rot in the fields as they won't have the eu workers they need.
My area is classed as a deprived area with above average unemployment. So why aren't our people working?
We will need all the food our farmers produce, we can't afford to let it waste.
We should stop wasting food, just because a carrot isn't the right shape doesn't mean it isn't good. So much food is ploughed back into the ground. We may be OS but many people buy too much food and waste it, maybe higher prices will make us buy what we need.

When i was a teenager I picked fruit in the summer holidays to earn money, when I was 14 my mum would drop me and my sister at a farm and we would work all day, it was hard work but we had the radio on and it was great watching the cash stack up. I think the teenager labour force has more or less gone, children are so much younger these days (in some ways!) and I know a lot of people are reluctant to let their 14 year olds go out alone at all let alone be left in a field miles from home with strange adults. Plus my mum picked crops in the holidays as a student and you don't often hear of students doing that now.
The other thing is the picking was managed by travellers who arrived at the farms to pick a certain crop and managed the whole thing (and gave us our cash for each full load) - I guess they no longer do this work either?

Local people might not want to do the job for the money offered, but are consumers prepared to pay the price for the fruit to pay them the amount they want? And wouldn't we just be outpriced (undercut I mean) by imported fruit?

Plus as an employer, I'd certainly be reluctant to employ someone who wasn't used to even having to get out of bed early, let alone work hard or obey instructions

What I'm trying to say is that people instinctively look for the easiest option and the cheapest one, so the idea of Brexit reversing the ills of society and making us healthier and harder working sounds lovely but in practice isn't likely to happen- not saying it's all doom and gloom, but if they can't find the workers, in practice we'd likely just end up importing more fruit

Every society has those that will shirk work, but on the whole most giving the opportunity relish in it, my lads have been bailing the last few weeks,
Each year they come home shattered and sore and swear they will never do it again, but when the call comes out from the smallholder each year they are there soreness forgotton, its only been the second year our youngest has been able to participate the paperwork and bylaws for children working are not worth the hassle nowadays.
Our generation also grew up when picking the spring daffodils and soft fruit was almost a right of passage thats been removed for the generations that followed but it was our generation and above that allowed this to happen, we reap what we sow.

Oddly my son an I had a funny conversation where my view is the EU would work well as long as nobody over the age of 35 was involved in it. the majority of older people are too set in a monetary system mindset for it ever to work well.
The whole EU thing has actual served well as a massive distraction to the fact the large scale weather cycles like we are currently in effect 2/3rds of the worlds harvest, there will be shortages like we saw in January with the Spanish crops failing regardless if we are in the EU or not.

kittie wrote: »

. I cannot see the likes of owen jones encouraging his generation to go and pick fruit

Then on the other hand you have Adam Pike and Michael Harris.
Im sure that every generation has bemoaned the laziness of the one after especially as technology has advanced. but in fairness each generation has to take a portion of the blame if skills have been lost its because they were never taught.