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    • avogadro
    • By avogadro 19th May 17, 3:15 PM
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    vege shepherds pie / cottage pie?
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    vege shepherds pie / cottage pie? 19th May 17 at 3:15 PM
    Has anyone had any success making a vegetarian version of shepherds pie? I would like to try making one for a vegetarian friend. What sort of things do you use for the base mixture?
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    • Shrimply
    • By Shrimply 19th May 17, 3:21 PM
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    Delia does one which I've roughly (very roughly) follwed and it seemed to work pretty well.

    I think this one here pretty much the one I used out of a book but the goats cheese mash is new.

    One of the things I added, and tend to add to any sort of vegetarian gravy option is Marmite, which add substance and a "meaty" sort of flavour.
    • edwink
    • By edwink 19th May 17, 3:45 PM
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    Has anyone had any success making a vegetarian version of shepherds pie? I would like to try making one for a vegetarian friend. What sort of things do you use for the base mixture?
    Originally posted by avogadro
    We often make Veggie shepherds pie with Quorn mince and it tastes really nice. We make ours in batches and it freezes well when frozen. To add interest to the dish we add chestnut mushrooms, onions and carrots when cooking the Quorn. Add roasted onion gravy granules (from Aldi and other supermarkets) when mince and veg are cooked and top with mash potato. YUM!!! We add baked beans to top of the mince before putting the potato on the top for added interest and flavour to the dish.

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    • Tiddlywinks
    • By Tiddlywinks 19th May 17, 4:16 PM
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    I use Neal' Yard soya mince or chunks as a substitute in any recipes calling for red meat.

    I find it has a firmer 'bite' than quorn and goes further too.

    Just make up a batch of mince with veggie stock and then use whatever recipe takes your fancy.
    • LameWolf
    • By LameWolf 19th May 17, 4:30 PM
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    I use Qu0rn mince along with onion, peas and thinly-sliced carrot. I also add a vegetarian Qu!xo stock cube (@ldi's version of 0xo which I actually prefer to the branded one) and a squirt of tomato puree. Good thick layer of mash on top, with a little grated cheese - our local farmers market does cheese made with veggie rennet.
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    • pollyanna 26
    • By pollyanna 26 19th May 17, 4:32 PM
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    Another here using TVP . I don't like Quorn although family and friends do . I like the chilled or frozen veggie mince and most supermarkets sell it . I find Morrisons , Sainsburys and WR versions best . Marks used to sell the best version of all but a few years ago fresh tvp mince was taken off general sale for a while and following the return was no longer in my local store '
    They still use it in their veggie meals range but seems to be only in larger stores in the bagged version .
    Check stocks , sauces etc are vegetarian .
    Top tip is Hendersons Relish which is a dead ringer for Worcester sauce but minus the anchovies , It has a spicy kick and is brilliant in lots of savoury foods .
    H&B and others sell the dried TVP mentioned by Tiddlywinks and it's a very useful standby .
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    • LameWolf
    • By LameWolf 19th May 17, 4:50 PM
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    . Marks used to sell the best version of all but a few years ago fresh tvp mince was taken off general sale for a while and following the return was no longer in my local store
    Originally posted by pollyanna 26
    That's interesting; our local Morries doesn't carry it at all; and following the return, the T£sco one no longer tasted at all nice (it used to be fine) hence I've had to switch to Qu0rn - which I get from @ldi.
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    • honeythewitch
    • By honeythewitch 19th May 17, 5:16 PM
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    I find aduki beans to be the best mince beef substitute to use with gravy.

    http://www.veganwomble.co.uk/wordpress/vegan-gravy-and-stocks/#gravy-dry
    • pollyanna 26
    • By pollyanna 26 19th May 17, 5:23 PM
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    Hi LW
    Our morries is quite large with a good range of veggie products , The mince is in the freezers . I never got on with the tesco one after the supermarkets pulled the mince . It's only last year Morries and SBs had it back on sale .
    I've never looked in Lidl or Aldi or other stores but will ask around .
    Take care
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    • caronc
    • By caronc 19th May 17, 7:41 PM
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    I use brown or green lentils as a sub for mince in the base, 100g of uncooked lentils replaces approx 250g mince. I add a splash of mushroom ketchup to the base mix for flavour.
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    • sillyvixen
    • By sillyvixen 19th May 17, 9:16 PM
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    I use a mix of red lentils, grated carrot, finely chopped mushrooms and onion with tinned tomatoes and mark its made up as stock. Although it is just me that eats it I cook a huge pot and use it in 'shepardless' pie, lasagne, with pasta (bolanaise style) jacket potato topping and have even used it in a pie (closed or open topped with cheese).
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    • JIL
    • By JIL 19th May 17, 10:26 PM
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    I like it with puy or brown lentils in the base. I have also used bulgar wheat as a mince substitute and that works well.
    I am sure your friend will appreciate the fact you have made the effort, whatever you decide to use.
    • flea72
    • By flea72 19th May 17, 10:59 PM
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    Lentils cooked in red wine, give a meaty texture/flavour.
    • Debran
    • By Debran 20th May 17, 4:11 PM
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    http://cheap-family-recipes.org/recipe-shepherdlesspie.html?opt=rdinner
    • avogadro
    • By avogadro 21st May 17, 7:37 PM
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    Thankyou for all your ideas, I might try brown lentils. I haven't cooked with them before, but I think you can get them in tins, which might make for an easy meal.
    • zippychick
    • By zippychick 22nd May 17, 12:39 PM
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    our complete veggie collection will help, it's a massive resource

    good luck!

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    • jackyann
    • By jackyann 22nd May 17, 9:24 PM
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    I use Rose Elliott's shepherds'pie:

    http://www.roseelliot.com/catalogue_main.php?catID=2031

    using black beluga lentils & smoked cheddar mash. It is not the cheapest vege shepherds' pie, but fora special friend (rather than the family on a Wednesday night) it is fantastic.

    I really recommend Rose Elliott, I have cooked from her recipes all of my adult life and she is reliable, sensible and has a great range of recipes.
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