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Classic "have cake and eat it" LL behaviour. There was another fraught thread a few weeks back along similar lines, buyer panicking that tenants wouldnt move out. (They had goen one step beyond you and exchanged with tenants still in residence)
I really dont see what your "inspection" will accomplish. You have zero relationship with the tenant and worst case (For you, best for her) she will realise she has you and LL over a barrel and can start making all sorts of demands for her to move out on time.
DT got it bang on "There's so much you could do to mess the process up."
Unless you are happy to go in and offer her a few grand to move out on the original date, then leave well alone.And don't (I know you've said you wont) even contemplate a same day exchange and complete.
At the moment all bets are off. An extra week might turn into 6 months. If the tenant posted here advice would be to see what she could get from LL in exchange for moving out on LL's schedule.0 -
Unless there are typos, isn’t this moving the completion date by just one day?
If so, it’s abit of an overreaction imo.0 -
Calpol4life wrote: »Unless there are typos, isn’t this moving the completion date by just one day?
If so, it’s abit of an overreaction imo.
No, it's much more than moving the completion date.
Its reducing the time between getting a vacant property , exchanging (in that order) and completion from a manageable week, to all on the same day. Which is very risky and worst case if the tenant reneges leaves the OP being a LL with nowhere to live. So not an overreaction at all0 -
AnotherJoe wrote: »No, it's much more than moving the completion date.
Its reducing the time between getting a vacant property , exchanging (in that order) and completion from a manageable week, to all on the same day. Which is very risky and worst case if the tenant reneges leaves the OP being a LL with nowhere to live. So not an overreaction at all
No it ain’t?
The previous plan was to inspect on Friday 12th, exchange Monday 15th and complete Tuesday 16th.
Tenant was always due to move out Friday 12th (as stated by OP)
How is what’s now being proposed much different? The tenant wants the weekend to move out?
I’m not disputing the risks between dates, but these risks were present on the original deal?
Just sayin, op is kicking up over 1 days difference in a deal that was previously considered acceptable.0 -
The tenant "reneging" carries no risk of the OP becoming a landlord - because the OP simply won't exchange until vacant possession is confirmed.
Yes, that carries the risk of exchange/completion being further delayed... Which is where we're at now anyway.
Ultimately, remember the tenant doesn't need to "ask" for another week. They simply stay. They would have a couple of months before anything actually starts to remove them from occupancy. The very fact they've asked for a weekend - no more - suggests they really do plan to play by the book.0 -
deannatrois wrote: »The only useful time to do an inspection is after the tenant has left. There is no point to an inspection now, before she has left.
I doubly reinforce the point others have made. Please don't go to speak to the tenant. You won't help yourself and could so easily say the wrong thing (obviously you have some anger, and surprise at this development, that understandable but not helpful if it comes out if the tenant tells you rudely where to go, she has to make sure she has somewhere to live).
Leave it for now. You aren't the owner. There's nothing helpful you can do. There's so much you could do to mess the process up.
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I agree that you should cancel the inspection, you say you're furious, stay well away.
You've nothing to gain, and could make things much worse.
Have you thought, human nature what it is, she may already hate you, and blame you for having to leave her home. I'd stay away . .0 -
Another vote for don't go.
- The tenant has no obligation to let you in anyway. Personally I wouldn't.
- They may be very suspicious of why you are there - are you going to argue with them? Try to question them? (To be honest, that's exactly what you're going to do!) So will immediately be on the defensive and hostile to you turning up, even if they do let you in. You're already the person they see (along with the landlord) as chucking them out of their home.
- That means that anything you say is likely to be taken the wrong way, even if you mean it nicely! Thus antagonising them even if you don't mean to.
- They might therefore decide to stay and wait for proper eviction. If they had any remaining goodwill towards the landlord (or even more vague goodwill towards you, a stranger buying their home) this will disappear and they might well find they can't be bothered with the cost and hassle of moving just yet.
- In any case there's no point risking any of the above and inspecting now, when they might trash the place over the weekend, and so you are going to have to inspect again anyway.
It's a complete waste of your time and theirs, with a very high risk of making this much worse.0 -
Oh dear I feel really sorry for you being in this awful situation.
...is what I would say if I met the tenant.0
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