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    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 15th Jan 18, 1:45 PM
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    KonMari 2018 & 2019 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up
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    • 15th Jan 18, 1:45 PM
    KonMari 2018 & 2019 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up 15th Jan 18 at 1:45 PM
    Since there seems to be a few new threads being started in case old ones are accidentally lost, shall I do the same for KonMari?

    Here's the links to the old threads with thanks to VfM4meplse and greent

    2017

    2016

    2015


    'The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up' by Marie Kondo is a home organisation/ decluttering book like no other. Instead of looking for things to discard, Marie Kondo says we should instead look for things we wish to keep - using the 'does it spark joy?' method. Ultimately this means that everything in our homes should spark joy for us You might not think that everyday and seemingly mundane items can't spark joy - but you need to think around it a little. So whilst an iron may not spark joy, wearing ironed clothes may. A cheese grater may not spark joy, but your child may really like grated cheese in their wraps - which brings joy.

    Marie Kondo also says that this should be done quickly and properly. This may take six months to achieve, but tidying properly should mean doing it just once. This is against the often-seen decluttering advice of doing 15 minutes a day, or a drawer/ shelf a day.

    MK suggests an order as to what to sort through first and subsequently. This is important - she starts with items which many people do not have an emotional attachment to (clothes) and builds up to sentimental items (photos) so that a person's joy-meter can be developed along the way.

    Many MSE-ers have been following the KM method (kondo-ing) successfully. It fits into the MSE ethos by changing your mindse - you will no longer want to shop mindlessly for something 'just because' or 'it'll do' - you will want to buy only joyful items, thereby often saving on random, impulse purchases.


    From the 2016 thread

    How/ Where Can I Dispose of My Unwanted Items?

    It is vitally important to make sure that you dispose of your unwanted items asap - less chance of any doubts creeping in and items making their way back!


    To make money and/ or save items from landfill, you may find the following ideas useful:

    Money Making:

    www.ebay.co.uk - am sure many will use this already. Be careful of fees - ebay now charge final value fees (FVF) on your postage as well as the amount which the items sells for.

    www.ziffit.com - can sell any unwanted books, CDs, DVDs & games. Download the app onto your smartphone/ tablet for ease of use - scan the barcodes and it will tell you if the item is accepted and what price they will give you. For even more money, go through a cashback site first (such as www.topcashback.co.uk or www.quidco.com) (tip: save your accepted items in your virtual 'cart'. If you have any items which they initially refuse, try re-scanning these several days later - I find about another 20-50% of previously unaccepted items go through on another attempt!)


    www.preloved.co.uk - Quidco are currently offering 60p to new members to Preloved (Jan 2016); plus you get 10p for posting a new advert. It's free to join and post adverts to Preloved, you can post things for sale or free to a good home so might be an alternative to eBay, free cycle, facebook selling pages to offload unwanted, unloved items. All free ads include a photo and private ads are completely free, no listing fees, no selling fees and no catches


    www.gumtree.com - free online classified ad site


    Recycling/ Reusing Items: (often raising funds for charities at the same time )

    Bras
    You can post them to the Breast Cancer charity here http://www.againstbreastcancer.org.uk/get-involved/fundraising/recycling/513/bra-recycling/ or you can go hand them in to a branch of Bravissimo.



    OR : raise funds for Nowzad Dogs - the only official animal charity in Afghanistan: http://www.nowzad.com/help-us/bras-for-nowzad/


    Unwanted pens
    You can post your unwanted pens to people overseas to help schools and orphanages via http://www.pensforkids.co.uk/how_you_can_help.html


    Ink jet Printer Cartridges
    Can be dropped off at Sue Ryder stores or posted off freepost for a charity from wide list or Tesco club card points for you via http://www.therecyclingfactory.com
    /our-partners/


    Books & Music
    British Heart Foundation and Oxfam both do specialist charity shops that sell books and music so you could separate those donations to maximise the money the charities make



    Postcards: can raise money for Great Ormond St children's hospital. http://www.gosh.org/fundraise-us/shopping-and-recycling/recycling-and-environment


    Stamps: GOSH also take all stamps, special and everyday, as do the RNIB http://www.rnib.org.uk/donations-and-fundraising-fundraising-your-community-recycle-us/used-stamps-appeal


    Maternity items/ baby & children's clothing/ nursery furniture/ toiletries/ nappies - a baby bank (like a food bank, but maternity and child related items for families in crisis) Lots springing up around the country. Some independent, some part of a small network. http://www.babybanknetwork.com/how-you-can-help-2/ www.gloucestershirebundles.org http://www.littlebundles.org.uk/cambridge/donations Up to date list can be found on stripey stork's website


    Toiletries/ make-up/ clothing (women's and children's) - women's refuge centres. Google your local area for one - but be prepared you may have to drop off to a 3rd party point - for obvious reasons they do not always want to publicise their location! Or post to : http://www.carolinehirons.com/p/give-and-makeup.html to help women and children in the Southern/ London area

    charity shops
    ziffit
    ebay
    gumtree etc


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    Last edited by Slinky; 22-01-2019 at 9:32 AM. Reason: Add in list from 2016 of places to dispose of unwanted items, thanks for locating them greent
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    • ivyleaf
    • By ivyleaf 17th Jan 18, 5:22 PM
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    ivyleaf
    Thanks for the new thread Slinky

    I don't post here very often, (partly because OH gets so anxious if I suggest getting rid of anything he hasn't used for several years, sigh) but just wanted to say, re using bars of soap - I went back to "ordinary" soap a couple of months ago and I have been surprised how much "fresher" it smells afterwards, and how easily it rinses off properly compared to shower gel
    • daisy 1571
    • By daisy 1571 17th Jan 18, 5:50 PM
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    We have never used shower gel but I agree with you ivy. Last year I took an excema reaction which is apparently common after a bereavement. We stopped using bubble bath which at first was just odd and horrible lying in our weekly bath treat but without bubbles. The other week we decided to try using it again and independently we both felt slimy and yucky after the bath. I really hadn't noticed before the layer of 'product' for want of a better word, that was left on our skin. And we always had a sploosh down with the shower after the bath to wash off lingering bubbles so i wold have thought that wold have cleaned it off. That must all be getting gunged off on the towel afterward. Yucky yuck. We have gone back to just plain water again.

    Daisy xx
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    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 17th Jan 18, 6:45 PM
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    GreyQueen
    I have a small Tale from the Homestead for you tonight.

    The family home is busily shedding a considerable quantity of books, the fallout from the mahoosive sort-out yours truly did over Crimble. Many many bagfuls have left, being trickle-fed into the hometown chazzers and also the city chazzers (some came home with me).

    Anyway, today is the day the folks go over to the bigger market town and they typically take some things for the chazzer over there. My old dad (bless him) was using a four-wheeled shopping trolley to transport a lot of books across the carpark when one of the wheels got trapped in a hole, the trolley came to a dead stop and he carried on going, right over the top!

    He's a pretty fit late-seventy-something and mostly bounced, but a few books flew out and had to be rounded up. Dad was unhurt and we all had a chuckle, but there was the thought at the back of my mind that how easily it could have been a nasty fall, broken wrist etc.

    Clutter tried to getcha, I'm sure of it.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • camelot1001
    • By camelot1001 17th Jan 18, 7:37 PM
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    Ah, the clutter fights back! Hope he's ok and hasn't put them off sorting out.

    I changed from shower gel to soap years ago, there's nothing more unweildy than a new bar of soap! DD worked for a few years for an up-market candle/soap shop and got me many, many bars of lovely soaps all at discount prices, I'm sure I'll never get to use it all.
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 17th Jan 18, 7:53 PM
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    GreyQueen
    I just prepped a bag of books to take to a chazzer after work tomorrow, when I will be running a few errands in that part of town. I thought I'd take a certain number but, when I got down to bagging them up, only six can be carried easily. These are large format hardcovers and weigh the best part of a kilo each.

    Once I have un-shopped them from my bag, I shall appreciate the lightening of the load.

    I don't think the parents will be put off decluttering, things have reached a critical mass of clutter at their home and it's a classic target rich environment, I could have a full-time job decluttering there.

    In fact, if they don't declutter considerably before passing from this mortal coil, I will have a full-time job decluttering over there. An hour away from home and whilst still having to work for a living, it'll be a dreadful experience, never mind the bereavements.

    On a slight tangent, has anyone else read The Gentle Art of Swedish Death Cleaning? I got it from the library and it's rather good, a slender and thoughtful volume, not at all morbid.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • iamsalt
    • By iamsalt 18th Jan 18, 8:09 AM
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    iamsalt
    Thanks again for the new thread. I have always used soap bars, but have found it harder to find ones I like as more people move to the liquid soap. I am still using up a lifetime supply of bubble bath that mum bought and didn't like using, so passed to me when I helped her move. I am using it as hand wash for the builders so it seems to be used relatively quickly!

    A thought on surroundings. We are living in temporary accommodation while our house gets some essentials -roof, Windows, a safe electrical supply, and when we moved here life was very busy and boxes were dumped anywhere, piled up in any space, and I hated, really hated being here, but didn't know what to do. My wonderful best friend visited a couple of weeks ago, and took charge in reorganising things,I now have a lounge area, most of a spare room and a kitchen without boxes, it's made a fantastic difference, and I actually found myself saying I was going 'home' the other day. I am also far less stressed. No boxes were unpacked but it's more spacious. We also identified 3/4 boxes of odds and ends for me to sort and make choices about, which means I feel back in control of the clutter.
    S x
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    • a_silver_lining
    • By a_silver_lining 18th Jan 18, 9:29 AM
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    I have 4 bags for the chazzer sat on the floor of the kitchen. Tonight they are going in the boot to deliver tomorrow. I have had them in one spot or another for about 2 months...
    Originally posted by VJsmum
    VJsmum, glad it isn't just me hoarding bags of items I've already 'discarded'.

    I separated the bag of charity clothes, which are now by the front door. I beat my 5 items for sale and listed 15, and one sold this morning. Taking it as a sign that I should crack on and clear some more. Papers today and I'm going to list the books I cleared yesterday.
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    • Wednesday2000
    • By Wednesday2000 18th Jan 18, 10:00 AM
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    Wednesday2000
    We have never used shower gel but I agree with you ivy. Last year I took an excema reaction which is apparently common after a bereavement. We stopped using bubble bath which at first was just odd and horrible lying in our weekly bath treat but without bubbles. The other week we decided to try using it again and independently we both felt slimy and yucky after the bath. I really hadn't noticed before the layer of 'product' for want of a better word, that was left on our skin. And we always had a sploosh down with the shower after the bath to wash off lingering bubbles so i wold have thought that wold have cleaned it off. That must all be getting gunged off on the towel afterward. Yucky yuck. We have gone back to just plain water again.

    Daisy xx
    Originally posted by daisy 1571
    I used up the last of our shower gel the other day and we are just using a tiny squirt of Dr Bronner's and so far it has been good.

    On a slight tangent, has anyone else read The Gentle Art of Swedish Death Cleaning? I got it from the library and it's rather good, a slender and thoughtful volume, not at all morbid.
    Originally posted by GreyQueen
    I haven't read it, but I have seen it being discussed on YouTube videos. The Messy Minimalist was one of them.
    "Fall seven times and stand up eight."
    Japanese Proverb
    • daisy 1571
    • By daisy 1571 18th Jan 18, 11:42 AM
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    daisy 1571
    Thanks again for the new thread. I have always used soap bars, but have found it harder to find ones I like as more people move to the liquid soap. I am still using up a lifetime supply of bubble bath that mum bought and didn't like using, so passed to me when I helped her move. I am using it as hand wash for the builders so it seems to be used relatively quickly!

    A thought on surroundings. We are living in temporary accommodation while our house gets some essentials -roof, Windows, a safe electrical supply, and when we moved here life was very busy and boxes were dumped anywhere, piled up in any space, and I hated, really hated being here, but didn't know what to do. My wonderful best friend visited a couple of weeks ago, and took charge in reorganising things,I now have a lounge area, most of a spare room and a kitchen without boxes, it's made a fantastic difference, and I actually found myself saying I was going 'home' the other day. I am also far less stressed. No boxes were unpacked but it's more spacious. We also identified 3/4 boxes of odds and ends for me to sort and make choices about, which means I feel back in control of the clutter.
    S x
    Originally posted by iamsalt
    What a wonderful friend, I love friends who are happy to roll their sleeves up, metaphorical or otherwise, and do what needs to be done to move someone on a little bit. Sometimes we are so mired in something it just takes a new viewpoint to help us.

    Dxx
    "Never save something for a special occasion. Every day in your life is a special occasion" Take hold of every moment by anon

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    • daisy 1571
    • By daisy 1571 18th Jan 18, 12:04 PM
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    Just popping on - cleaning and clearing kitchen drawer. Compartments stuffed. Now I know why - 25 butter/side plate type knives. Let's just think about that for a moment.

    25.

    Hmmmm.

    Yup, some can safely go

    "Never save something for a special occasion. Every day in your life is a special occasion" Take hold of every moment by anon

    The difference between what you were yesterday and what you will be tomorrow is what you do today
    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 18th Jan 18, 1:54 PM
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    Hahaha, Daisy! 25!! Do you actually use any of them?

    I unkondoed about 30 worth of amenities in all shapes, sorts, and sizes from a trial at work, and I'm thrilled! I'll work my way through them religiously, plus I'll not have to buy any for many years. I probably have enough (posh!) soaps to last me for the rest of my lifetime. This sparks a lot of joy for me.

    Just as much joy as I get from our 2 rabbits when they hop around our living room They are soooo cute, and last night they had their 'crazy' hour, and ran in circles, chasing each other, behind the curtains and the sofa, jumping over pillows, hiding behind chairs, suddenly stopping to smell my feet , sitting still for a cuddle, and off again!
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    • daisy 1571
    • By daisy 1571 18th Jan 18, 3:25 PM
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    Hahaha, Daisy! 25!! Do you actually use any of them?

    I unkondoed about 30 worth of amenities in all shapes, sorts, and sizes from a trial at work, and I'm thrilled! I'll work my way through them religiously, plus I'll not have to buy any for many years. I probably have enough (posh!) soaps to last me for the rest of my lifetime. This sparks a lot of joy for me.

    Just as much joy as I get from our 2 rabbits when they hop around our living room They are soooo cute, and last night they had their 'crazy' hour, and ran in circles, chasing each other, behind the curtains and the sofa, jumping over pillows, hiding behind chairs, suddenly stopping to smell my feet , sitting still for a cuddle, and off again!
    Originally posted by Siebrie
    I have 6 which have different coloured handles cream, lilac, pale blue etc which I love and remember my grandma and granda using. Sadly some of the handles are splitting or damaged so I'd like to replace them if I ever see another set. I chucked out some of the normal ones and now have 16 I think. Including the coloured set. And no........ I rarely use them just not quite ready to let them all go yet

    Hi to the fluffy bunnies, sounds lovely

    Dxx
    "Never save something for a special occasion. Every day in your life is a special occasion" Take hold of every moment by anon

    The difference between what you were yesterday and what you will be tomorrow is what you do today
    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 18th Jan 18, 4:11 PM
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    Slinky
    I have 6 which have different coloured handles cream, lilac, pale blue etc which I love and remember my grandma and granda using. Sadly some of the handles are splitting or damaged so I'd like to replace them if I ever see another set. I chucked out some of the normal ones and now have 16 I think. Including the coloured set. And no........ I rarely use them just not quite ready to let them all go yet

    Hi to the fluffy bunnies, sounds lovely

    Dxx
    Originally posted by daisy 1571
    Trouble is with this though is that if you were able to buy a replacement set, would you be able to bear to part with the originals, as they are original?
    • a_silver_lining
    • By a_silver_lining 18th Jan 18, 4:32 PM
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    3/15 items sold for 16.05 profit after postage and fees. I've realised I forgot to do my jewellery when I did my clothes so I backtracked to that before moving onto paper. I've cleared half a shoe box of costume pieces. I'm going to photo them tomorrow to sell. Tonight I'm listing books online for sale.

    Diasy, I totally get your 16 knives. I found it hard to let go of things the first time around doing Kondo. This second time is much easier as revisiting some items I can see how little value or joy they have given me in the time since the last clear out.

    I went from about 15 t.shirts to 3 this time. I've also gone from a shoe box of jewellery to a handful (ok maybe two handfuls). And this is after my first Big clear out last year.

    I think part of why I have found it hard is that honestly not a lot of my belongings bring me joy. I think I fear a super empty house. It makes me think about buying quality over quantity though.

    Has anyone else redone their kondoing?
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    • wort
    • By wort 18th Jan 18, 5:14 PM
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    wort
    I have purchased some night wear, tbh I've been looking to replace the vests with hidden support that I wear under my pjs in bed, needed to round up my big boobs. The ones I have are on their last legs elastic going, and shoulder straps stretched.
    So as debs had a sale on their gorgeous range of nightwear, I have replaced them. I have ragged 4 tops and 1 bottom.
    I also shredded some old credit card statements, so I'm back up to date with paper work.
    GQ I have heard about that, there was a link on one of the threads that I followed and had a read.
    Baibelle I think most of us redo bits and bobs. I finished a while ago, but I'm always on the look out for stuff to go. The more I kondoed the more I want to get rid of stuff, it's very therapeutic.
    Focus on contribution instead of the impressiveness of consumption to see the true beauty in people.
    • camelot1001
    • By camelot1001 18th Jan 18, 5:21 PM
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    I sorted out the footstool that holds all the cards and wrapping paper last night, a few bits hit the recycling bin. All the christmas gift bags are now in one plastic folder and the birthday ones in another.

    I may start the basket in the kitchen cupboard that holds all the stuff I don't really know what to do with!
    • luxor4t
    • By luxor4t 18th Jan 18, 7:28 PM
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    I have temporarily kondo'd half my house - following major surgery I am living downstairs until I can safely get up (and down) the steep stairs. it has been surprisingly liberating.
    DH has taken on driving the washing machine, and we are wearing three outfits in rotation. Admittedly, I am unable to go far and have a very simple life at the moment, but it is all so easy and a great aid to recovery.

    I have taken advantage of the time to cull the bookcases and we have a large bag of books to take to the CS next time we go in that direction. I have also been able to pass on a book that a friend - saving her from buying it.

    it is going to be an interesting year.
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    • zippychick
    • By zippychick 18th Jan 18, 8:29 PM
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    Closed the old one!

    Slinky, here's a nice hyper link for the most recent thread

    Zip

    2017

    2016

    2015
    A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men
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    • daisy 1571
    • By daisy 1571 19th Jan 18, 12:39 AM
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    Trouble is with this though is that if you were able to buy a replacement set, would you be able to bear to part with the originals, as they are original?
    Originally posted by Slinky
    Aaaaaagggggghhhhh, and so it goes on till my house resembles gq's familial home yeah, those kinds of thoughts do concern me but I am getting better at reminding myself just cos something is 'old' does not mean it must be kept forever and just because someone in my family once owned something does not mean I have to keep it forever. Someone on here in one of the previous year's threads said something along the lines of would your grandma/other relative have kept the old/used/broken thing and would they be sad that you felt you had to give house room to such a thing. That stayed with me too so I am hopeful that if I ever do find replacements I will be able to release the originals

    Daisy xx
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    The difference between what you were yesterday and what you will be tomorrow is what you do today
    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 19th Jan 18, 9:06 AM
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    Siebrie
    Daisy, I have the same feeling when I completely wear out a pair of jeans: I want to run out and buy a new pair of jeans. But why? I have another pair of jeans, and I have other trousers, dresses and skirts. I may have to rethink my wardrobe combinations, but there is no actual need to buy another pair of leg-coverings.
    2019's wi-wa-wombles 117,56 = 102.30
    Wombling to wealth 2018 972,97 = 879.54
    Still a womble 2017 #25 7116,68 = 6309.50
    Wombling Free 2016 #2 3.483,31 = 2,969.05
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