CMC company trying to claim payment on plevin award

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  • Mrs_Moir77
    Mrs_Moir77 Posts: 12 Forumite
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    they have offered me a reduction on my fee. the LO have said that if i accept it they may class it as resolved - so torn between paying the reduced amount (although i have offered to pay them a smaller fee - awaiting an answer on that) or wait until the LO review my case - at which point they may rule against me and i am worried the CMC will add charges to the invoice.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 116,371 Forumite
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    That is probably what they are hoping you will do. Read the rules again. They are quite clear on what the CMC should do. If the CMC has done it, then you ought to pay. if the CMC has not done what they should then you should refuse.

    They huff and puff to frighten you into paying.
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  • Mrs_Moir77
    Mrs_Moir77 Posts: 12 Forumite
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    they rejected my offer - so told them that i was leaving it in the hands of the legal ombusman....
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 116,371 Forumite
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    I hope it goes well but I fear the weakness of the LO compared to the FOS will come into play. The FOS would consider the FCA rulebook. The LO doesnt appear to consider the guidelines for CMCs.

    However, do remember that even if the LO decide its outside of their remit, the CMC would still have to start legal proceedings against you. You would have an opportunity to put your case forward (no authority to act, being billed fraudulently as CMC is in breach of the MoJ rules etc). Even if the judgement is against you, if you settle it at that point with the amount you owe with the possibility of a small fee on top.

    In all the other cases where the CMC has tried this, they pull out and agree to waive it as a goodwill gesture.
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  • Mrs_Moir77
    Mrs_Moir77 Posts: 12 Forumite
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    they sent me an email last night (8.30pm) with an invoice detailing charges if not paid within 14 days. I also have an email from the LO stating that they would follow FCA guidance on Plevin - however, they need to see the paper work. The CMC keep stating that I signed a contract in 2015 with a clause which states they are entitled to payment when there is change in the law. However, when I log into their website, they have closed my PPI case and opened a new case for Plevin - which I knew nothing about.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 116,371 Forumite
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    I also have an email from the LO stating that they would follow FCA guidance on Plevin - however, they need to see the paper work.

    It isnt the FCA that issue the guidance on Plevin in respect of claims companies. It is the ministry of justice.

    Look at the link again. It is an MoJ website. Not an FCA one.
    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/claims-management-companies-plevin-guidance/plevin-guidance-for-claims-management-companies

    FCA regulate financial services companies. MoJ cover the claims companies.

    Make sure the LO is clear that its a CMC rule breach you are concerned about and nothing to with the FCA who do not regulate claims companies.
    However, when I log into their website, they have closed my PPI case and opened a new case for Plevin - which I knew nothing about.

    And it says under section 3 that the claims company.... should ensure that you have sought clients!!!8217; instructions to act on their behalf in relation to the complaint on Plevin grounds. You are likely to require a new Letter of Authority from your client if you have not previously raised Plevin grounds, the complaint was rejected more than six months ago, and it has not already been referred to the Financial Ombudsman Service. You must ensure that you have the appropriate consent to contact the client before doing so. (Further information is available on consent in our Marketing and Advertising Guidance. When presenting the complaint on the basis of Plevin grounds, you will be expected to use and include relevant information you and/or your client has already been provided with to assist the lender in investigating the complaint.

    The Letter of authority is the agreement. Without that they have no contract with you. It states in the CMC rules that they must have your consent. You never gave that consent. So, the CMC is in breach of MoJ rules.
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  • Mrs_Moir77
    Mrs_Moir77 Posts: 12 Forumite
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    Thank you - I'll email the LO now with that.

    I have included all the info from the MOJ in my complaint to the CMC which they rejected and also the LO. I guess we have to wait and see what they say.
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    If you're in arrears or have defaulted, yes.
  • Rogersfamily
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    I’m having exactly the same issue with quite possibly the same company so I’m really intrigued to know how you get on with this ! Please let me know and good luck!
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 116,371 Forumite
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    I’m having exactly the same issue with quite possibly the same company so I’m really intrigued to know how you get on with this ! Please let me know and good luck!

    All other people that have posted on the site have so far succeeded in getting the CMC to back down after they mention the Ministry of justice website and what it says in section 3.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
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