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    • MSE Megan F
    • By MSE Megan F 1st Feb 18, 6:06 PM
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    MSE News: New grants for Welsh students
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    • 1st Feb 18, 6:06 PM
    MSE News: New grants for Welsh students 1st Feb 18 at 6:06 PM
    Welsh students starting university this September will be given at least 1,000 a year and some will receive more than 10,000, as part of a huge shake-up of maintenance grants...
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    'Welsh students to get grant worth between 1k and 10k a year from September'

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    • BorisThomson
    • By BorisThomson 1st Feb 18, 6:33 PM
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    Thanks to the Welsh Labour Government for doing this.
    • One-Eye
    • By One-Eye 1st Feb 18, 7:38 PM
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    Seems like a tremendous opportunity for Corbyn to promise the same for English students under a Labour government.

    Wake up Labour - it won't cost the earth. There is no difference between giving the money as a grant now, and giving it as a loan that is never paid back and written off in 30 years.
    • silvercar
    • By silvercar 1st Feb 18, 8:47 PM
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    This is MSE, when do people need to send their children to live in Wales to get this money?
    • VT82
    • By VT82 2nd Feb 18, 12:47 PM
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    • 2nd Feb 18, 12:47 PM
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    • 2nd Feb 18, 12:47 PM
    Surely this is going to massively exacerbate the issue Martin has highlighted with regards to basing student grants on household income, and how household income might have no bearing at all on what financial support is provided to the student? Ten grand a year (of free money) difference depending on household income!?!?


    So not only is this hugely expensive, it is also as poorly thought through as any part of the current student finance system.


    The student loan system might have its faults, but expecting people to make a contribution towards something they benefit from isn't really that earth-shattering or unfair a concept is it?
    • silvercar
    • By silvercar 2nd Feb 18, 1:26 PM
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    • 2nd Feb 18, 1:26 PM
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    • 2nd Feb 18, 1:26 PM
    So what are the knock on effects?

    Mass emigration from England to Wales of poorer families with teenage children? Impact on services in Wales, particularly school places.

    Parents "separating" to ensure the family income for assessment is low enough to scoop the highest grant.
    • zagfles
    • By zagfles 3rd Feb 18, 5:00 PM
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    • 3rd Feb 18, 5:00 PM
    Thanks to the Welsh Labour Government for doing this.
    Originally posted by BorisThomson
    More like thanks to the Barnett formula which gives the Scottish and Welsh about 20% more public spending per person than the English.
    • Ganador
    • By Ganador 10th Mar 18, 8:39 PM
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    • 10th Mar 18, 8:39 PM
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    Its smoke and mirrors. They are doing away with the tuition fee grant which all Welsh students were entitled to. So all Welsh students will be worse off under the revised system, even those from the poorest households.
    • mumof3.12kindebt
    • By mumof3.12kindebt 14th Sep 19, 10:40 AM
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    • 14th Sep 19, 10:40 AM
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    • 14th Sep 19, 10:40 AM
    Can you get this if you live in Wales or do you have to be born in Wales to qualify .


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