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    • Digital Dan
    • By Digital Dan 20th Oct 12, 1:59 PM
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    Advance Tickets to London & Underground Travel
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    • 20th Oct 12, 1:59 PM
    Advance Tickets to London & Underground Travel 20th Oct 12 at 1:59 PM
    Hi

    My wife and I will be travelling from North Essex to London next month. We will travel on a Saturday; stay over night and return on the Sunday. Whilst I know it's best to buy the tickets in advance; what about buying Travelcards which include travel on the London Underground?

    There seems no way (that I can see) of getting them on the National Rail Enquiries website.

    We will do a fair bit of travel on London Underground. So I'm wondering if it would be cheaper to buy the tickets when we travel which will include the tube fares; or buy tickets in advance just for the train journeys and pay for the London Underground as we go along?

    Is there any way of buying tube tickets in advance cheaply?

    Thanks for any advice or suggestions.
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  • david197
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    • 20th Oct 12, 2:10 PM
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    • 20th Oct 12, 2:10 PM
    If you go on London Transport website you can get a vistor oyster card or 1-7 day travel card that will be cheaper than paying on the day.
    • Digital Dan
    • By Digital Dan 20th Oct 12, 2:13 PM
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    • 20th Oct 12, 2:13 PM
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    • 20th Oct 12, 2:13 PM
    If you go on London Transport website you can get a vistor oyster card or 1-7 day travel card that will be cheaper than paying on the day.
    Originally posted by david197
    Thank you; I didn't know that.
    • dzug1
    • By dzug1 20th Oct 12, 2:35 PM
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    A visitor Oyster is poor value - you pay 3, non refundable, for it. A normal Oyster is free - but with a 5 refundable deposit.

    Just buy day travelcards, one for each day, on arrival at ??Liverpool Street. In theory your local station can issue them but staff may be unfamiliar with the process. Buying them in advance doesn't save anything.

    What is your actual start station? There may be ways of saving on the fare from there.
    Last edited by dzug1; 20-10-2012 at 2:38 PM.
    • davenport151
    • By davenport151 20th Oct 12, 2:55 PM
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    • 20th Oct 12, 2:55 PM
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    Get them when you buy your ticket on the day of travel. Staff will be familar with the travelcard. Or you can get you travel ones in advance and get the travelcard seperate. Once again just ask at the station before you travel.
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    • Digital Dan
    • By Digital Dan 20th Oct 12, 3:25 PM
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    • 20th Oct 12, 3:25 PM
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    • 20th Oct 12, 3:25 PM
    A visitor Oyster is poor value - you pay 3, non refundable, for it. A normal Oyster is free - but with a 5 refundable deposit.

    Just buy day travelcards, one for each day, on arrival at ??Liverpool Street. In theory your local station can issue them but staff may be unfamiliar with the process. Buying them in advance doesn't save anything.

    What is your actual start station? There may be ways of saving on the fare from there.
    Originally posted by dzug1
    Thanks

    The start station is Colchester in Essex, so yes, we arrive at Liverpool Street.

    When you say buy 'Just buy day travelcards, one for each day' you mean there are travel cards for the Underground? In other words; buy my train tickets in advance and Underground travel cards for the Underground whilst we are in London?
    • Digital Dan
    • By Digital Dan 20th Oct 12, 3:29 PM
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    • 20th Oct 12, 3:29 PM
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    • 20th Oct 12, 3:29 PM
    Get them when you buy your ticket on the day of travel. Staff will be familar with the travelcard. Or you can get you travel ones in advance and get the travelcard seperate. Once again just ask at the station before you travel.
    Originally posted by davenport151
    It seems as if you're giving me the same advice as Dzug 1. Get my train tickets in advance (if they are cheaper - which they should be) and buy the Underground travel cards when I need them.
    • Axial
    • By Axial 20th Oct 12, 4:17 PM
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    • 20th Oct 12, 4:17 PM
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    When you say buy 'Just buy day travelcards, one for each day' you mean there are travel cards for the Underground? In other words; buy my train tickets in advance and Underground travel cards for the Underground whilst we are in London?
    Originally posted by Digital Dan
    Yes, inboundary paper travelcards which cover Zones R1-6 (8.50 off peak) or Zones R1-2 (7 off peak) for example.

    You could purchase these at COL if you wanted ahead of your travel.
    • redux
    • By redux 20th Oct 12, 4:31 PM
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    It's going to depend on how many trips you expect to do each day.

    If it's just a couple of singles then a travelcard won't make much difference, like when I went from Waterloo to Kings Cross and back the travelcard added slightly more than the return difference between to Waterloo and to Kings Cross from here

    If you go for Oyster then singles are cheaper, and it has a maximum daily charge which is the same as having a travelcard.

    Compare all the rates at
    http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14416.aspx

    And the map of the zones may help
    http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/london-rail-and-tube-services-map.pdf
    Last edited by redux; 21-10-2012 at 3:07 AM.
    • Digital Dan
    • By Digital Dan 20th Oct 12, 4:47 PM
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    Yes, inboundary paper travelcards which cover Zones R1-6 (8.50 off peak) or Zones R1-2 (7 off peak) for example.

    You could purchase these at COL if you wanted ahead of your travel.
    Originally posted by Axial
    Thanks for the information - much appreciated.
    • Own My Own
    • By Own My Own 20th Oct 12, 4:50 PM
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    You can buy a tube travel card 24 hrs before departure at Colchester Train Station. You will both need passport photos. I travel up from Clacton and always buy my card the day before.
    • Digital Dan
    • By Digital Dan 20th Oct 12, 4:51 PM
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    It's going to depend on how many trips you expect to do each day.

    If it's just a couple of singles then a travelcard won't make much difference, like when I went from Waterloo to Kings Cross and back the travelcard added slightly more than the return to Kings Cross from here

    If you go for Oyster then singles are cheaper, and it has a maximum daily charge which is the same as having a travelcard.

    Compare all the rates at
    http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14416.aspx

    And the map of the zones may help
    http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/london-rail-and-tube-services-map.pdf
    Originally posted by redux

    Thank you for the information and links.

    The schedule (so far) has us going from Liverpool Street to Golders Green and staying there overnight. The next day; we go to Earls Court. Afterwards we may go elsewhere and then to Liverpool Street or (depending on how tired we are) straight from Earls Court to Liverpool Street.

    I'll look at the links and try to work things out.

    Thanks again
    Last edited by Digital Dan; 20-10-2012 at 4:56 PM. Reason: Spelling!
    • Digital Dan
    • By Digital Dan 20th Oct 12, 4:56 PM
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    You can buy a tube travel card 24 hrs before departure at Colchester Train Station. You will both need passport photos. I travel up from Clacton and always buy my card the day before.
    Originally posted by Own My Own

    Thanks.

    Would the tube travel card only be valid for that day?

    In otherwords would I have to buy one for the Saturday (Liverpool St to Golders Green) and another for Sunday? If so; maybe it's not worth buying one for Saturday and I'd be better off paying the standard fare for the single tube journey we make on the Saturday?

    I appreciate your comments - thanks.
    • Own My Own
    • By Own My Own 20th Oct 12, 5:03 PM
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    Thanks.

    Would the tube travel card only be valid for that day?

    In otherwords would I have to buy one for the Saturday (Liverpool St to Golders Green) and another for Sunday? If so; maybe it's not worth buying one for Saturday and I'd be better off paying the standard fare for the single tube journey we make on the Saturday?

    I appreciate your comments - thanks.
    Originally posted by Digital Dan
    No, I get weekly tickets. You can get them for the length you need.

    Not all the staff at the stations know they can issue them. If they say they can't do it , tell them to check as they can.
    • Digital Dan
    • By Digital Dan 20th Oct 12, 5:11 PM
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    No, I get weekly tickets. You can get them for the length you need.

    Not all the staff at the stations know they can issue them. If they say they can't do it , tell them to check as they can.
    Originally posted by Own My Own

    That's very useful to know.

    Thanks again.
    • dzug1
    • By dzug1 20th Oct 12, 6:23 PM
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    Thanks

    The start station is Colchester in Essex, so yes, we arrive at Liverpool Street.

    When you say buy 'Just buy day travelcards, one for each day' you mean there are travel cards for the Underground? In other words; buy my train tickets in advance and Underground travel cards for the Underground whilst we are in London?
    Originally posted by Digital Dan
    That's what I meant, yes. You will need one for each day - if you are only making one journey then it won't be worth while for that day. They are also valid on buses and some trains - not just the tube.

    You will not need a photo for a one day travelcard - only for weekly and longer

    If you can be bothered with the deposit lark then Oyster might suit you better. Again, you can buy at Liverpool Street on arrival
    • thelawnet
    • By thelawnet 20th Oct 12, 8:45 PM
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    Thank you for the information and links.

    The schedule (so far) has us going from Liverpool Street to Golders Green and staying there overnight. The next day; we go to Earls Court. Afterwards we may go elsewhere and then to Liverpool Street or (depending on how tired we are) straight from Earls Court to Liverpool Street.

    I'll look at the links and try to work things out.

    Thanks again
    Originally posted by Digital Dan

    If you're just making one journey on the the Saturday you won't want either a Colchester - London travelcard, or a Colchester - London single plus Travelcard. Oyster will be better.

    As for the tickets, either book in advance or consider a Colchester - London off-peak return. It's valid to go out Saturday and return Sunday. Price is 31.50. You can save 10.70 off that price, each, by buying a Network Railcard (one between two people is fine) for 28, valid for a year. If you're planning to do a lot of travel on Sunday, it can also be used to buy a travelcard for the reduced price of 5.60 (instead of 8.50)
    • pompeyrich
    • By pompeyrich 20th Oct 12, 9:51 PM
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    For reference a single from Liverpool Street to Golders Green is 4:30 cash or 2:60 with an oyster card. GG-EC is the same price and EC-Liv ST is 4:30 cash or 2 with the oyster card
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