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    • baxio
    • By baxio 25th Jun 19, 11:55 AM
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    Discouraging vandals
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    • 25th Jun 19, 11:55 AM
    Discouraging vandals 25th Jun 19 at 11:55 AM
    Hi,

    We live on the corner of a council estate where two main roads join and there is a pub just round the corner. Our fence fairly frequently gets the odd hole kicked in on it overnight, most likely from drunks coming home from the pub. A few weeks ago we heard an argument and a crash- I think a guy pushed his girlfriend into the fence and it pretty much smashed it to bits.

    My Dad has suggested maybe putting anti-climb paint and CCTV signs on the fence to deter people. However, I'm wondering if this will attract thieves who will see these measures but no actual CCTV and think "what have they got in there" and it might make the house more tempting to them.

    Just curious as to people's thoughts/ experiences on this.

    Thanks,

    Dan
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    • Ebe Scrooge
    • By Ebe Scrooge 25th Jun 19, 12:05 PM
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    Unfortunately there's not a lot you can do to stop people kicking holes in the fence. A friend of mine did once come up with an ingenious way of discouraging people from climbing up it. Have a root around in the garage/shed, find all the odd bits of gloss paint we all seem to end up with in old tins. Mix them together with a good dollop of grease, and paint it on the top of the fence. It won't stop people climbing it in the first place, but they'll only do it once :-) There's no way that lot will wash out, and it'll ruin the expensive designer track-suits so beloved by neds. With the added bonus that you can't be prosecuted for causing bodily harm like you could if you put broken glass or barbed wire up.
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    • jk0
    • By jk0 25th Jun 19, 12:09 PM
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    • 25th Jun 19, 12:09 PM
    Build a wall up to 4'6", and fix a small weak fence above that. No-one will be knocking holes in the wall, and the fence will make it very awkward to climb.
    • Jackmydad
    • By Jackmydad 25th Jun 19, 12:22 PM
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    • 25th Jun 19, 12:22 PM
    Build a wall up to 4'6", and fix a small weak fence above that. No-one will be knocking holes in the wall, and the fence will make it very awkward to climb.
    Originally posted by jk0
    Be nice if you could build a 4.6 metre brick wall. . .
    But failing that your idea would seem to be about the best that can be done.
    • giraffe69
    • By giraffe69 25th Jun 19, 2:32 PM
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    • 25th Jun 19, 2:32 PM
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    • 25th Jun 19, 2:32 PM
    Doesn't it say 4ft 6in not 4.6m?
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 25th Jun 19, 5:29 PM
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    • 25th Jun 19, 5:29 PM
    Doesn't it say 4ft 6in not 4.6m?
    Originally posted by giraffe69
    Yes it does, but some people view on phones, tablets and 15" screens. (That's fifteen inches, not metres or feet! )

    My advice is not to put signs up, which just seem to antagonise certain sorts of people and invest long term in some pyracantha bushes or similar.
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    • Jackmydad
    • By Jackmydad 25th Jun 19, 5:56 PM
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    Doesn't it say 4ft 6in not 4.6m?
    Originally posted by giraffe69
    Yes it does.
    I was just thinking that a really big wall would be better!
    • tacpot12
    • By tacpot12 25th Jun 19, 6:40 PM
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    Your might do something creative, e.g. painting concrete fence panels to make them look like fencing. Or you could investigate composite fence panels to see if they might be stronger than wood. You might also hang a second cheaper fence panel over the original panels as a sacrificial board that will both absorb the force of any kicks better than a single panel and be cheaper to replace if it is damaged.

    Ultimately, a properly built wall is probably going to be as cheap and will last longer.
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    • Norman Castle
    • By Norman Castle 25th Jun 19, 6:43 PM
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    Wire mesh fencing a few inches in front of the fence might prevent damage.
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    • Fire Fox
    • By Fire Fox 26th Jun 19, 3:55 AM
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    My advice is not to put signs up, which just seem to antagonise certain sorts of people and invest long term in some pyracantha bushes or similar.
    Originally posted by Davesnave
    Agree, plant spiky hedging.
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    • LadyDee
    • By LadyDee 26th Jun 19, 4:51 AM
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    A hawthorn hedge is a good deterrent.
    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 26th Jun 19, 5:18 AM
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    Fences don't work, they fall over in the wind, they get graffiti, they attract drunks and neds.

    Plant a very prickly bush and, over time, forget the fence.

    They won't linger too long near a prickly bush + any damage soon gets self-sorted. You just need to nip out 2-3x a year and keep it trimmed.

    It saves money too as mending fences is very expensive.
    • aylesby
    • By aylesby 26th Jun 19, 9:49 AM
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    Fence damage is a week end sport round my way this year. Replacing with concrete works best.
    The stronger fences have vertical slats of wood and a horizontal top and bottom frame. The thicker the better.
    Weaker fences have horizontal slats in construction. These are cheapest and attract attention first.
    • baxio
    • By baxio 26th Jun 19, 10:10 AM
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    We have slide in fence posts where we can slide fence panels in.

    What about sliding gravel boards in instead? I've seen a video of a chav kicking one in, but they just slid down from above and trapped him!
    • FreeBear
    • By FreeBear 26th Jun 19, 12:20 PM
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    plant spiky hedging.
    Originally posted by Fire Fox
    My favorite - Poncirus Trifoliata - Thorns up to 3" long, scented flowers in the summer, followed by small, edible fruits. Although anyone trying to eat one straight from the bush will not come back for second helpings
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    • JimmyChanga
    • By JimmyChanga 26th Jun 19, 1:17 PM
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    Get CCTV, not just signs. See what is going on and if it isn't just the same idiots.
    • markin
    • By markin 27th Jun 19, 12:21 AM
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    Screw 5mm 6x6 plywood to the outside, stained brown to last, they are smooth so hard to climb and you cant kick it in easily.
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