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    • lemonie2000
    • By lemonie2000 20th Jun 19, 8:45 AM
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    Help needed with kitchen quotes please!
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    • 20th Jun 19, 8:45 AM
    Help needed with kitchen quotes please! 20th Jun 19 at 8:45 AM
    Hey everyone,

    We are in the process of changing our kitchen. It is a fairly small u shaped kitchen but we don't have a huge budget. This is the first kitchen we have replaced and obviously we don't want to pay more than we have to if we can help it. We've had a quote from Wren after spending hours in their showroom which came out at 5100, for the kitchen and built in oven, hob and microwave. We have just had a quote from Howdens for basically the same layout which is in total including appliances 1k more than Wren. I have the breakdown of prices from howdens and wondered if this seemed expensive to you guys in the know!!

    1 CLW5146 Clerk Gls White 600 Upgrade CC 3 Dwr Base White Cab 304.00 F
    1 HYH0933 Upgrade Anthracite Cutlery Tray 600mm 11.25
    1 CLW5211 Clerk Gls White 400 CC Hi-Line Base White Cab 124.50 F
    1 CLW5251 Clerk Gls White 800 CC Hi-Line Base White Cab 181.50 F
    1 CLW540F Clerk Gls White 350 CC 900 Tall Wall White Cab 119.10 F
    1 CLW5428 Clerk Gls White 500 CC 900 Tall Wall White Cab 125.40 F
    1 CLW543D Clerk Gls White 700 CC 900 Tall Wall White Cab 184.20 F
    1 CLW5514 Clerk Gls White 600 CC Tall Integrated Mwave Housing 262.80 F
    White Cab
    1 CLW5546 Clerk Gls White 1000 CC Pre-Fit Hi-Line Full Ext Cnr 463.75 F
    Storage RH White Cab
    1 CLW5557 Clerk Gls White 800 CC Pre-Fit Hi-Line Full Ext Cnr 449.50 F
    Storage LH White Cab
    1 CLW5679 Clerk Gls White 600 CC 2292 Tall Double Oven Twr White 295.80 F
    Cab
    4 CLW591A Clerk Gls White 30mm Cornice/Pelmet Square Profile 2.4m 99.00 F
    2 CLW5920 Clerk Gls White Continuous Plinth 2.75m 39.60 F
    3 CLW5933 Clerk Gls White 910 Base Decor End 87.30 F
    4 CLW5947 Clerk Gls White 932 Tall Wall Decor End 126.00 F
    2 CLW5955 Clerk Gls White 2310 Tall Twr Decor End 162.30 F
    3 WHT3792 Grey Concrete Effect Worktop Upstand 3m 90.00 P
    2 WHT5660 Grey Concrete Effect Square Edged Worktop 3m 38mm 314.30 F
    2 WOR9029 Stone Grey Worktop Jointing Compound 16.80
    1 WHT5695 Grey Concrete Effect Worktop Edging Strip 5m 38mm 31.85
    6 GIR0026 H Zipbolt Worktop Connecting Bolt 6.18
    1 ACS1412 Glass Splashback 595mm x 705mm 50.00

    1 SNK2163 Lamona Light Grey Standard Composite 1.5 Bowl Sink and 116.40
    Waste
    1 PLU2002 Plumbing Kit for 1.5 and 2.0 Bowl Sinks with 1 appliance trap 22.40
    1 TAP3631 Lamona Chrome and Grey Calaggio Swan Neck Monobloc Tap 122.80
    1 HJS9798 Kitchen Installation Manual April 2019 1.00
    1 ZZD39 Delivery 70.00

    I haven't included the appliance costs from howdens as I'll shop around for those online anyway.

    Thank you very in advance to anyone who can offer any advice to us.

    😊
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    • Doozergirl
    • By Doozergirl 20th Jun 19, 8:52 AM
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    • 20th Jun 19, 8:52 AM
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    • 20th Jun 19, 8:52 AM
    Did you give the Wren quote to them? They'll match it, straight off. The easiest way to deal with Howdens is to present them with a quote. Build a basket online at DIY Kitchens too.

    Are there % discounts listed on that quote?
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    • lemonie2000
    • By lemonie2000 20th Jun 19, 11:14 AM
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    • #3
    • 20th Jun 19, 11:14 AM
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    • 20th Jun 19, 11:14 AM
    Thanks so much for your reply. No I didn't give them the actual quote from Wren but I told them we'd been there and he said he'd give a good price as knew we were looking around but from what I can see on the breakdown it doesn't show any discount!! Would it normally mention a discount or would I be able to see from the quote that one has been applied?

    I've read a lot about diykitchens but to be honest the thought of doing it all myself scares me but maybe I should give it more thought!
    Thanks again.
    • Doozergirl
    • By Doozergirl 20th Jun 19, 11:34 AM
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    • 20th Jun 19, 11:34 AM
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    • 20th Jun 19, 11:34 AM
    Have you gone through a fitter's account?

    The % discount is normally on the right hand side but if you go through someone else you won't see it.

    You don't have to do it all yourself but it at least gives you another easy, transparent quote for comparison.
    Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
    • lemonie2000
    • By lemonie2000 20th Jun 19, 11:43 AM
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    • 20th Jun 19, 11:43 AM
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    • 20th Jun 19, 11:43 AM
    The fitter contacted them on our behalf so I guess it's through him?? Although the howdens guy emailed me the quote directly so I'm not sure. I can't see anything that resembles a discount, I just cut and pasted the quote on here, there doesn't appear to be anything else!
    I'll definitely give diykitchens a look!
    • bris
    • By bris 20th Jun 19, 1:54 PM
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    • #6
    • 20th Jun 19, 1:54 PM
    • #6
    • 20th Jun 19, 1:54 PM
    Hey everyone,

    We are in the process of changing our kitchen. It is a fairly small u shaped kitchen but we don't have a huge budget. This is the first kitchen we have replaced and obviously we don't want to pay more than we have to if we can help it. We've had a quote from Wren after spending hours in their showroom which came out at 5100, for the kitchen and built in oven, hob and microwave. We have just had a quote from Howdens for basically the same layout which is in total including appliances 1k more than Wren. I have the breakdown of prices from howdens and wondered if this seemed expensive to you guys in the know!!

    1 CLW5146 Clerk Gls White 600 Upgrade CC 3 Dwr Base White Cab 304.00 F
    1 HYH0933 Upgrade Anthracite Cutlery Tray 600mm 11.25
    1 CLW5211 Clerk Gls White 400 CC Hi-Line Base White Cab 124.50 F
    1 CLW5251 Clerk Gls White 800 CC Hi-Line Base White Cab 181.50 F
    1 CLW540F Clerk Gls White 350 CC 900 Tall Wall White Cab 119.10 F
    1 CLW5428 Clerk Gls White 500 CC 900 Tall Wall White Cab 125.40 F
    1 CLW543D Clerk Gls White 700 CC 900 Tall Wall White Cab 184.20 F
    1 CLW5514 Clerk Gls White 600 CC Tall Integrated Mwave Housing 262.80 F
    White Cab
    1 CLW5546 Clerk Gls White 1000 CC Pre-Fit Hi-Line Full Ext Cnr 463.75 F
    Storage RH White Cab
    1 CLW5557 Clerk Gls White 800 CC Pre-Fit Hi-Line Full Ext Cnr 449.50 F
    Storage LH White Cab
    1 CLW5679 Clerk Gls White 600 CC 2292 Tall Double Oven Twr White 295.80 F
    Cab
    4 CLW591A Clerk Gls White 30mm Cornice/Pelmet Square Profile 2.4m 99.00 F
    2 CLW5920 Clerk Gls White Continuous Plinth 2.75m 39.60 F
    3 CLW5933 Clerk Gls White 910 Base Decor End 87.30 F
    4 CLW5947 Clerk Gls White 932 Tall Wall Decor End 126.00 F
    2 CLW5955 Clerk Gls White 2310 Tall Twr Decor End 162.30 F
    3 WHT3792 Grey Concrete Effect Worktop Upstand 3m 90.00 P
    2 WHT5660 Grey Concrete Effect Square Edged Worktop 3m 38mm 314.30 F
    2 WOR9029 Stone Grey Worktop Jointing Compound 16.80
    1 WHT5695 Grey Concrete Effect Worktop Edging Strip 5m 38mm 31.85
    6 GIR0026 H Zipbolt Worktop Connecting Bolt 6.18
    1 ACS1412 Glass Splashback 595mm x 705mm 50.00

    1 SNK2163 Lamona Light Grey Standard Composite 1.5 Bowl Sink and 116.40
    Waste
    1 PLU2002 Plumbing Kit for 1.5 and 2.0 Bowl Sinks with 1 appliance trap 22.40
    1 TAP3631 Lamona Chrome and Grey Calaggio Swan Neck Monobloc Tap 122.80
    1 HJS9798 Kitchen Installation Manual April 2019 1.00
    1 ZZD39 Delivery 70.00

    I haven't included the appliance costs from howdens as I'll shop around for those online anyway.

    Thank you very in advance to anyone who can offer any advice to us.

    😊
    Originally posted by lemonie2000
    That's the customers price list, the fitter gets up to 70% off that. The fitter gets two price lists, one to give the customer and one for what they are really paying. Howdens will send you the customers price, they won't send you the fitters.


    Has the fitter told you that includes fitting? Still a bit expensive for a small kitchen though.


    Ask them to show you the real price they are paying it be about 60% cheaper on average, excluding fitting.


    I mean 70 for a fitters manual? Is he a kitchen fitter or a DIY'er who needs a manual?
    • lemonie2000
    • By lemonie2000 20th Jun 19, 2:13 PM
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    • 20th Jun 19, 2:13 PM
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    • 20th Jun 19, 2:13 PM
    Thanks for your reply bris. I haven't spoken to my fitter about it as yet, I will hopefully speak to him this evening. I agree it seems a lot and with fitting on top I think we will have to reconsider the idea of a new kitchen for a while!! Hopefully we can get it cheaper! Thanks again.
    • Bad Ash
    • By Bad Ash 20th Jun 19, 9:28 PM
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    • #8
    • 20th Jun 19, 9:28 PM
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    • 20th Jun 19, 9:28 PM
    I don't know if Howdens have stopped showing the discount? A few months ago we got a quote on our builders account and it clearly showed the discount for each item (about 70%). Then just a couple of weeks ago we got a much smaller quote from them for our bathroom on the same builders account, but no discount was listed.
    • Doozergirl
    • By Doozergirl 20th Jun 19, 10:07 PM
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    • #9
    • 20th Jun 19, 10:07 PM
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    • 20th Jun 19, 10:07 PM
    It's on my invoice for tape measures this afternoon.

    They produce two types of quote. One is where the account holder doesn't want to share the discount with a client.
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    • markin
    • By markin 21st Jun 19, 2:20 AM
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    Can you get away with just changing the doors and counters.
    • cranford
    • By cranford 21st Jun 19, 8:31 AM
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    What are these end panels costing 360? Go to DIY Kitchens and the units are available in a multiple of colours that match the doors doing away for the need for end panels.
    • deanos
    • By deanos 21st Jun 19, 8:06 PM
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    try Magnet trade if you have one nearby, they beat Wren and Howdens when we did our kitchen
    • deanos
    • By deanos 21st Jun 19, 8:08 PM
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    deanos
    That's the customers price list, the fitter gets up to 70% off that. The fitter gets two price lists, one to give the customer and one for what they are really paying. Howdens will send you the customers price, they won't send you the fitters.


    Has the fitter told you that includes fitting? Still a bit expensive for a small kitchen though.


    Ask them to show you the real price they are paying it be about 60% cheaper on average, excluding fitting.


    I mean 70 for a fitters manual? Is he a kitchen fitter or a DIY'er who needs a manual?
    Originally posted by bris
    its 1 for the manual , 70 is delivery
    • lemonie2000
    • By lemonie2000 25th Jun 19, 12:21 PM
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    Thanks everyone!! I've spoken to howdens today and apparently there is nothing they can do in the way of discounting the price! I've also had a quick look at similar cabinets etc on DIY kitchens and tbh they don't seem to be much different from howdens.
    I have benchmarx coming out this week so will see what they can do. This kitchen may have to wait a while by the looks of it!!
    • Doozergirl
    • By Doozergirl 25th Jun 19, 3:18 PM
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    If DIY is the same sort of price as Howdens, you've done a good job.
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