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    • britishboy
    • By britishboy 9th Jun 19, 5:26 PM
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    once daily sun cream recommendations
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    once daily sun cream recommendations 9th Jun 19 at 5:26 PM
    Ive always used P20 once a day sun cream, but dont like the oily, greasy texture or when you get hot and it runs into your eyes



    Any other recommendations please for a spf30 or spf50 one a day, that doesnt leave you greasier than chip shop chips?
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    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 9th Jun 19, 7:18 PM
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    I don't think once daily suntan lotion is realistic
    • gettingtheresometime
    • By gettingtheresometime 9th Jun 19, 7:27 PM
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    Sorry but it was my understanding that suntan lotion should be regularly applied.

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    • fatbelly
    • By fatbelly 9th Jun 19, 7:42 PM
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    I don't think once daily suntan lotion is realistic
    Originally posted by hollydays
    That's probably true. I know some people react to P20 and get fewer problems with Ultrasun. But you can't expect the protection to last at a constant high rate over a period of more than a few hours.
    • Takmon
    • By Takmon 10th Jun 19, 12:05 PM
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    • 10th Jun 19, 12:05 PM
    I don't think once daily suntan lotion is realistic
    Originally posted by hollydays
    That's probably true. I know some people react to P20 and get fewer problems with Ultrasun. But you can't expect the protection to last at a constant high rate over a period of more than a few hours.
    Originally posted by fatbelly
    I use P20 every time i go somewhere hot and only put it on once in the morning and have never had sun burn. I've even been to a water park where the temperature was 35 degrees and i was there from 10am to 5pm going in and out of the water and queuing up in direct sunlight and didn't even get a tan!.
    • fatbelly
    • By fatbelly 10th Jun 19, 5:22 PM
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    I use P20 every time i go somewhere hot and only put it on once in the morning and have never had sun burn. I've even been to a water park where the temperature was 35 degrees and i was there from 10am to 5pm going in and out of the water and queuing up in direct sunlight and didn't even get a tan!.
    Originally posted by Takmon
    OP doesn't like P20 - Any other recommendations?
    • CruisingSaver
    • By CruisingSaver 10th Jun 19, 6:56 PM
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    Another vote for Ultrasun. I've got very fair skin and have reacted to some other sun creams.
    • Schoolworker
    • By Schoolworker 10th Jun 19, 7:01 PM
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    I use boots soltan 8 hour suntan lotion for my kids but they do get cream in the morning then again early afternoon. I don't take the word of all day protection.
    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 10th Jun 19, 8:21 PM
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    I use P20 every time i go somewhere hot and only put it on once in the morning and have never had sun burn. I've even been to a water park where the temperature was 35 degrees and i was there from 10am to 5pm going in and out of the water and queuing up in direct sunlight and didn't even get a tan!.
    Originally posted by Takmon
    sunscreen is not fully effective against the sun's harmful rays, research by Which? has found.

    It tested four brands which claim that users only need to apply them once during the day.

    It found that after six to eight hours the average Sun Protection Factor (SPF) offered decreased by 74%.

    However the claim was rejected by some of the manufacturers, who said their own testing had different results.

    According to the Which? study , a sunscreen offering an SPF 30 could actually drop to an SPF 8 over the course of a day.

    Claims about "once-a-day" sunscreens are not allowed in Australia, where there are strict regulations about such assertions.

    Anything that leads consumers to believe sunscreens do not need to be frequently re-applied is forbidden.

    Which? believes similar rules should be introduced in the UK.
    • Misslayed
    • By Misslayed 10th Jun 19, 8:42 PM
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    I'm a melanoma survivor and a grey redhead, I can thoroughly recommend Altruist sunscreen, developed and marketed by a dermatologist who wanted to make sure effective, easy to use, high quality sunscreen was available to everyone, not just those who could afford it. I was very sceptical at first because of the price - I had been paying 3/4 times as much. It's available on Amazon in cream or aerosol (which I use - SO easy to use, no greasy feel, no surface film, no fragrance, haven't tried the cream). 10p from every sale also donated to a charity supporting African children with albinism. I've recommended it to everyone in my family, they are all hooked now.
    It isn't a 'once a day' application, but the spray is so easy to reapply, it doesn't really matter. Available spf 30 or 50
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    • Takmon
    • By Takmon 11th Jun 19, 7:29 AM
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    OP doesn't like P20 - Any other recommendations?
    Originally posted by fatbelly
    I know it doesn't help the OP but i was just giving my experience showing that it does actually work in the real world.

    sunscreen is not fully effective against the sun's harmful rays, research by Which? has found.

    It tested four brands which claim that users only need to apply them once during the day.

    It found that after six to eight hours the average Sun Protection Factor (SPF) offered decreased by 74%.

    However the claim was rejected by some of the manufacturers, who said their own testing had different results.

    According to the Which? study , a sunscreen offering an SPF 30 could actually drop to an SPF 8 over the course of a day.

    Claims about "once-a-day" sunscreens are not allowed in Australia, where there are strict regulations about such assertions.

    Anything that leads consumers to believe sunscreens do not need to be frequently re-applied is forbidden.

    Which? believes similar rules should be introduced in the UK.
    Originally posted by hollydays
    You need to be careful when reading studies like that. They started off with SPF 30 (I would never use less than SPF 50+) then they put it on their back put a t-shirt on and rubbed it off for a period of 6 to 8 hours then tested it again. Which is a completely rubbish test because obviously if you rub it off it will be less effective.

    Like i said i have been in an out of a pool and down water slides all day in direct sunlight at the worst point in the day and didn't even get a tan, so that shows it does work.
    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 12th Jun 19, 4:07 PM
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    I know it doesn't help the OP but i was just giving my experience showing that it does actually work in the real world.



    You need to be careful when reading studies like that. They started off with SPF 30 (I would never use less than SPF 50+) then they put it on their back put a t-shirt on and rubbed it off for a period of 6 to 8 hours then tested it again. Which is a completely rubbish test because obviously if you rub it off it will be less effective.

    Like i said i have been in an out of a pool and down water slides all day in direct sunlight at the worst point in the day and didn't even get a tan, so that shows it does work.
    Originally posted by Takmon
    So I shoulda believe one random stranger on the internet?

    In late 2018, the Cosmetic, Toiletry & Perfumery Association (CTPA) the UK's industry body for sunscreen manufacturers introduced a best-practice guide for claims around long-lasting sunscreens.

    It told us that the industry is now trying to move away from 'once a day' labelling, using the term 'durable sun cream' instead.

    While the best-practice guide isn't the same as there being an agreed standard, it outlines factors manufacturers should consider when developing durable sunscreens.

    It also explains that the labelling of durable sunscreens must explain the circumstances under which they should be re-applied, such as after excessive perspiring, swimming, towelling or a given period of time.

    To stay safe in the sun, it's best to always apply your sunscreen carefully and regularly. And don't rely on any sun cream on its own it should be used alongside sunglasses, clothing, a hat and the shade.
    • Takmon
    • By Takmon 12th Jun 19, 4:29 PM
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    So I shoulda believe one random stranger on the internet?
    Originally posted by hollydays
    Well the OP also says that they always use it so obviously it works for them in regards to protecting them from sunburn.

    There is also another thread on this part of the forum currently where several people say they use it often.

    But the main point i was making was their test you quoted said they applied it to someone who then put on a t-shirt and rubbed about on a char for 7 hours. That is obviously is not a useful test considering sun cream is never used that way.

    In late 2018, the Cosmetic, Toiletry & Perfumery Association (CTPA) the UK's industry body for sunscreen manufacturers introduced a best-practice guide for claims around long-lasting sunscreens.

    It told us that the industry is now trying to move away from 'once a day' labelling, using the term 'durable sun cream' instead.

    While the best-practice guide isn't the same as there being an agreed standard, it outlines factors manufacturers should consider when developing durable sunscreens.

    It also explains that the labelling of durable sunscreens must explain the circumstances under which they should be re-applied, such as after excessive perspiring, swimming, towelling or a given period of time.

    To stay safe in the sun, it's best to always apply your sunscreen carefully and regularly. And don't rely on any sun cream on its own it should be used alongside sunglasses, clothing, a hat and the shade.
    Originally posted by hollydays
    Yea and your point is? None of that says once a day Sun Cream doesn't work.

    If you apply P20 and don't rub it off then it will protect you all day from sunburn and i know that because I've used it many many times (even after swimming).

    You seem to be arguing that it doesn't work but have obviously never tried it. So next time your planning on going out in the sun give it a try and you will be surprised.
    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 13th Jun 19, 7:13 PM
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    Thanks for that bit of mansplaining.
    The reason factor 50 was invented was because people don't apply suncream properly.
    I don't stay out in the sun for 12 hours so I don't need it.
    Last edited by hollydays; 13-06-2019 at 8:47 PM.
    • Takmon
    • By Takmon 14th Jun 19, 8:16 AM
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    Thanks for that bit of mansplaining.
    The reason factor 50 was invented was because people don't apply suncream properly.
    I don't stay out in the sun for 12 hours so I don't need it.
    Originally posted by hollydays
    It's not mansplaining you can't just judge an entire range of products to not work just because you don't believe it

    Factor 50 suncream offers a slightly higher protection which is obviously beneficial because any amount of sun exposure is damaging.

    All day sun cream isn't for people who spend all day in the sun. It's for people who want to put it on in the morning and then go out in the sun at all will during the day without having to worry about re-applying.
    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 14th Jun 19, 8:08 PM
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    It's not mansplaining you can't just judge an entire range of products to not work just because you don't believe it

    Factor 50 suncream offers a slightly higher protection which is obviously beneficial because any amount of sun exposure is damaging.

    All day sun cream isn't for people who spend all day in the sun. It's for people who want to put it on in the morning and then go out in the sun at all will during the day without having to worry about re-applying.
    Originally posted by Takmon
    Which takes us full circle. Obviously your body will rub against chairs, clothes will rub it off. You'll touch your face or stroke your arm.
    Someone might hug you.
    That's the point .
    I don't not like the product, I've read up,on why it's not efficient.

    There is no sun cream for people who are hoping to get away with applying it once.
    Ps Im out of the uk for a few months, it's hot here , keeping out of the sun, during the hottest times, wearing a hat, covering up and reapplying sunscreen ( partly so you go over the bits you missed) are the answer .
    Last edited by hollydays; 14-06-2019 at 8:12 PM.
    • sarah69696pink
    • By sarah69696pink 15th Jun 19, 1:08 PM
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    Depends what you're looking for. I think boots sultan is great for protection. I don't rely it on for once a day (put on at least twice) but I have very fair skin and think its great - but that said it is pretty thick and can leave a yellow stain on white things.
    I used to like Piz Buin - but don't see the factor50 all day one anywhere any more?
    • britishboy
    • By britishboy 15th Jun 19, 4:16 PM
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    Thanks all, will have a read thorugh properly once im home from work


    As said, sadly P20 (even the SPF 30) does last all day on me, even in July in Greece (i never swim, just lay on my back all day in the sun) and have never burnt, but i really dont like the oily texture it leaves on my skin... Will use it if i cant find an alternative, but it feels horrible when i throw a t shirt on to go for lunch


    May try and find a decent spf50 for my face
    • britishboy
    • By britishboy 15th Jun 19, 4:37 PM
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    I'm a melanoma survivor and a grey redhead, I can thoroughly recommend Altruist sunscreen, developed and marketed by a dermatologist who wanted to make sure effective, easy to use, high quality sunscreen was available to everyone, not just those who could afford it. I was very sceptical at first because of the price - I had been paying 3/4 times as much. It's available on Amazon in cream or aerosol (which I use - SO easy to use, no greasy feel, no surface film, no fragrance, haven't tried the cream). 10p from every sale also donated to a charity supporting African children with albinism. I've recommended it to everyone in my family, they are all hooked now.
    It isn't a 'once a day' application, but the spray is so easy to reapply, it doesn't really matter. Available spf 30 or 50
    Originally posted by Misslayed

    Hi
    Sorry to hear what you have been through, and thank you for the recommendation. Ive seen 2 x 100ml spf50 on Amazon for 7.50 which i think a good price, and the reviews seem excellent! Going to order some for my face (and possibly whole body)
    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 16th Jun 19, 8:51 PM
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    Hi
    Sorry to hear what you have been through, and thank you for the recommendation. Ive seen 2 x 100ml spf50 on Amazon for 7.50 which i think a good price, and the reviews seem excellent! Going to order some for my face (and possibly whole body)
    Originally posted by britishboy
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