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    • Pelagonium
    • By Pelagonium 17th Aug 19, 1:55 PM
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    Esta for USA without USA address
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    • 17th Aug 19, 1:55 PM
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    Esta for USA without USA address 17th Aug 19 at 1:55 PM
    I wanted to get my Esta early but one of the on line questions is what is your contact address in the USA. I presume this means the hotel youíll be staying at, but we havenít decided yet (in fact we havenít even decided on the itinerary yet). Anyone know how to fill in the box in those circumstances? Would Ďdonít know yetí get through?
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    • Diddidi
    • By Diddidi 17th Aug 19, 2:23 PM
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    You can change hotel details on your ESTA right up to the last minute online. Could you book a hotel for first night or two with full cancellation, put that on the ESTA application and then just update the details once you have the final hotel info?
    • TELLIT01
    • By TELLIT01 17th Aug 19, 3:04 PM
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    • 17th Aug 19, 3:04 PM
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    • 17th Aug 19, 3:04 PM
    US immigration are not keen on vague answers, and even less happy with non-answers. Either wait until you have decided where you are going to stay, or do as suggested above and book somewhere which has free cancellation.
    • jonesMUFCforever
    • By jonesMUFCforever 17th Aug 19, 3:44 PM
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    • 17th Aug 19, 3:44 PM
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    Whenever we have gone to America the ESTA address has been updated when we check in at the airport.
    Unless the ESTA application has changed you could leave that part blank.
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    • EssexExile
    • By EssexExile 17th Aug 19, 3:57 PM
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    • 17th Aug 19, 3:57 PM
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    We usually tour & don't know where we're going until we get there. We just put down any hotel near the airport.
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    • eDicky
    • By eDicky 17th Aug 19, 5:27 PM
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    • 17th Aug 19, 5:27 PM
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    • 17th Aug 19, 5:27 PM
    As above, enter the name of any hotel at your destination, whether you actually have a booking yet is not being checked.
    • maisie06
    • By maisie06 18th Aug 19, 1:54 PM
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    • 18th Aug 19, 1:54 PM
    We stayed in a villa so we just put the management company's address in on the form....I would do as others have said and use the name of an airport hotel.
    • hanb
    • By hanb 19th Aug 19, 10:14 AM
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    • 19th Aug 19, 10:14 AM
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    • 19th Aug 19, 10:14 AM
    I did mine last week and it says on the form that you can just put 'UNKNOWN' in those fields, we did that and all went through fine within a couple of hours
    • Doshwaster
    • By Doshwaster 19th Aug 19, 10:56 AM
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    • 19th Aug 19, 10:56 AM
    As above, enter the name of any hotel at your destination, whether you actually have a booking yet is not being checked.
    Originally posted by eDicky
    Just make sure that you put the full address including zip code of the hotel not just the name. I once got held up by a jobsworth at immigration as I had just put something like "Airport Hilton Hotel"
    • sazaccount
    • By sazaccount 19th Aug 19, 7:49 PM
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    I just used a random hostel in LA as that's where I was flying into but wasn't ready to actually make a reservation at that point.
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    • jackieblack
    • By jackieblack 20th Aug 19, 7:56 AM
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    I just put ‘unknown’ when I did mine a few months ago and never got asked any more about it either at Heathrow, or on landing in the US. I didn’t even think about updating it as I haven’t bothered before on previous visits and have never had a problem.
    Although I’ve visited the USA many times, this was the first ESTA on a new passport after changing my name, but that didn’t appear to make any difference.
    Last edited by jackieblack; 20-08-2019 at 8:03 AM.
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    • bradders1983
    • By bradders1983 20th Aug 19, 7:57 AM
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    I just put Ďunknowní when I did mine and never got asked any more about it either at the airport or on landing.
    Originally posted by jackieblack
    Probably not the wisest thing to do tbh, you may have been questioned on it by someone else.
    • jackieblack
    • By jackieblack 20th Aug 19, 8:05 AM
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    Probably not the wisest thing to do tbh, you may have been questioned on it by someone else.
    Originally posted by bradders1983
    Like who?
    If the airline don’t ask and US immigration don’t ask, who else is going to?

    Years ago pre-ESTA, and when ESTA was first introduced and was voluntary and free of charge, you used to have to fill in a landing card on the plane which asked about where you were staying but that’s obsolete now.

    Actually, this visit (I’m currently in Boston) we didn’t have to fill in customs forms either.
    Last edited by jackieblack; 20-08-2019 at 8:10 AM.
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    July £120.64, Aug £104.36, Sep £100.00


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    • bradders1983
    • By bradders1983 20th Aug 19, 8:12 AM
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    Like who?
    If the airline don’t ask and US immigration don’t ask, who else is going to?
    Originally posted by jackieblack
    Erm, a different person at immigration? Maybe one of them is having a bad day, or is extremely anal? You may have had a very different experience in the queue to your left or right.

    Not worth the risk, just put an address down.
    • jackieblack
    • By jackieblack 20th Aug 19, 9:05 AM
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    Erm, a different person at immigration? Maybe one of them is having a bad day, or is extremely anal? You may have had a very different experience in the queue to your left or right.

    Not worth the risk, just put an address down.
    Originally posted by bradders1983
    I take your point, however I’m just reporting my experience.
    And although I had to see a human at immigration this time (new passport) this is the first time in several years I’ve had to do so, and the automated kiosks don’t have bad days.

    If I remember maybe I’ll update next time, but my experience is that it’s not necessary.
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    July £120.64, Aug £104.36, Sep £100.00


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    • bradders1983
    • By bradders1983 20th Aug 19, 9:07 AM
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    I take your point, however Iím just reporting my experience.
    And although I had to see a human at immigration this time (new passport) this is the first time in several years Iíve had to do so, and the automated kiosks donít have bad days.
    .
    Originally posted by jackieblack
    Very true, but they may not have discretion when the address field states "unknown" and may refer you to an unforgiving human
    • stevenhp1987
    • By stevenhp1987 21st Aug 19, 10:24 AM
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    Like who?
    If the airline donít ask and US immigration donít ask, who else is going to?

    Years ago pre-ESTA, and when ESTA was first introduced and was voluntary and free of charge, you used to have to fill in a landing card on the plane which asked about where you were staying but thatís obsolete now.

    Actually, this visit (Iím currently in Boston) we didnít have to fill in customs forms either.
    Originally posted by jackieblack
    Since when are customs forms optional?

    I flew to New York on Thursday and filled mine in on the plane...

    US Government site says you have to fill it in? https://www.cbp.gov/travel/clearing-cbp/traveler-entry-form

    That form asks for your address etc.
    • jackieblack
    • By jackieblack 21st Aug 19, 10:31 AM
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    Since when are customs forms optional?

    I flew to New York on Thursday and filled mine in on the plane...

    US Government site says you have to fill it in? https://www.cbp.gov/travel/clearing-cbp/traveler-entry-form

    That form asks for your address etc.
    Originally posted by stevenhp1987
    This is the first time I haven’t had to do one, I was expecting to have to fill one in but the pilot made an announcement on the plane and said that they wouldn’t be required and no-one at Logan asked for them when we landed. It wasn’t optional, it just wasn’t required- no idea why.
    Last edited by jackieblack; 21-08-2019 at 10:34 AM.
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    YTD £973.85 (£650 offset)
    Jan £105.26, Feb £103.31,Mar £135.77, Apr £104.51, May £100, June £100,
    July £120.64, Aug £104.36, Sep £100.00


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    • shaun from Africa
    • By shaun from Africa 21st Aug 19, 11:29 AM
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    Since when are customs forms optional?

    I flew to New York on Thursday and filled mine in on the plane...

    US Government site says you have to fill it in? https://www.cbp.gov/travel/clearing-cbp/traveler-entry-form
    Originally posted by stevenhp1987
    If you are entering the USA under the visa waiver program and you use one of the automated self service kiosks then the paper customs forms are not required as the declaration is done when you enter your info at the machine.
    It's even better in some airports now.
    When arriving in Orlando on certain flights, you go to the immigration desk then unless you get pulled for a spot check or you opt to go and speak to a customs official, you simply pick up your suitcase and walk straight out of the secure area without having to make any declaration.
    • heatherw_01
    • By heatherw_01 21st Aug 19, 3:45 PM
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    You only don't fill customs forms in if there is a kiosk in the arrival airport terminal as you do the same questions on the screen.
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