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    • worried jim
    • By worried jim 19th Feb 12, 1:34 PM
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    Your Bangernomics successes
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    • 19th Feb 12, 1:34 PM
    Your Bangernomics successes 19th Feb 12 at 1:34 PM
    Hello my fellow cheapskates. After spending nearly three years running a car for as cheap as possible, mainly as I ran it throughout all but he darkest depths of winter on WVO/UVO (waste or used vegetable oil), in a Vauxhall Astra I have had to say good bye to the old girl as it is no longer economical to repair to get it through it’s MOT (which has now expired yesterday).

    Running my Vauxhall Astra on veg oil-
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=1961265&highlight=worried+jim

    Being of limited budget but a growing fan of “Bangernomics” (old banger cars + economics) I have decided to catalogue my experiences of running a sub £1000 car and I would like you to share your experiences if you are doing the same, weather through tight-fisted choice, i.e.-
    -Why buy a new car when you can run one successfully for the equivalent of two new car finance payments.
    -Or like me because you have no choice.

    Now to begin with we need to agree on price constraints. I have gone in with a £1000 price limit even though I paid half this, if you disagree lets discuss reasons, I am all ears.

    Here is my set up-
    A Rover 600 2.0sli.
    12 months MOT
    No tax
    £495.

    4 Doors, Manual, Saloon, Petrol, Metallic Blue, MOT-02-2013. Honda engine, ABS, Alloy wheels, Folding rear seats, Lumbar support, Immobiliser, Passenger airbag, Rear armrest, Radio/Cassette, Rear headrests, Alloy wheels, 3x3 point rear seat belts, Alarm, Drivers airbag, Electric windows, Height adjustable drivers seat, Remote central locking,
    The mileage was approx 118,000, Cambelt changed @79,000, loads of history (not fsh though) all the old MOT certificates.

    The bad bits about the car are-

    Electric aerial doesn’t retract (can’t use a carwash)
    Drivers seat lumber is worn
    Paint is faded on roof and boot lid.
    Radio is missing a button and unable to pick up many stations
    Small cigarette burn in rear passenger seat
    Driver’s seat belt doesn’t retract
    Not sure if Air con is fully working (suspect needs a re gas)
    Wind noise at speed from top right of driver door
    Both wing mirrors are tatty (held together with tape and a nylon tie)

    The good bits-

    Drives very well
    All tyres have lots of tread
    All electrics work
    12 months MOT
    Goes like stink
    Better than the last car I had.


    So in a nutshell I have bought a car with a brand new MOT for the price of getting my existing Astra through it’s MOT just to face a similar if not larger bill for the same next year.
    Now there is nothing to suggest that in a years time I face the prospect of a large MOT repair bill and may have to start again with another car, hopefully not, and this is to document how far you can go with a banger.

    I have found an original Topgear review by Jeremy himself from 1993-
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Lq92QTrBw

    I have had a good look around ebay and it is full of Rover parts should I need any- I currently have the wining bid on a Haynes manual so I can really get to know the car should I need to.

    I will be the first to admit that this is a gamble, no nice new car with no faults or warranty should any arise, hell, I’ve bought a car from a now defunct manufacture, how will this effect me? Now in my mind when I was a teenager in the early 90’s a banger was a Hillman Imp, Vauxhall Chevette or as in my case and my first car a Talbot Sunbeam. These were cars that if you wanted a radio (or a rear heated element on the rear screen) you had to fit one your self. Cold morning- fingers crossed, MOT time meant welding new sills. Now a banger today comes with power steering, ABS, electric windows, fuel injection and in some cases air con, so why spend £k’s?

    Top Gear guide to Buying a Banger with Quentin Wilson- From 1997
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUVmNCdf4tI&feature=related
    (You won’t be buying anything featured in this clip but it gives you the idea and you can see the difference between “old” and “modern” bangers.
    So by now you should be getting the jist of how to join in. Share you car and model any feature it may have and keep updating!

    The £495 beast-


    Tatty rear bumper-


    Poor paint condition on roof (with free seagull crap)


    Poor paint condition on boot lid-


    Tatty wing mirror-


    Missing radio button-
    Last edited by worried jim; 19-02-2012 at 2:32 PM.
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    • worried jim
    • By worried jim 24th Oct 19, 12:38 PM
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    Currently using a 1991 Dawes mountain bike bought for £20 for work, Each ride saves me £1.50 in petrol and I can use the managers' car park to lock it up. Done over 100 commutes.
    Originally posted by alembicbassman
    Sir, you have won today!
    • alembicbassman
    • By alembicbassman 24th Oct 19, 1:35 PM
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    • LeeUK
    • By LeeUK 24th Oct 19, 5:02 PM
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    Our second car would be considered a banger by today's standards - Skoda Octavia 1.9TDi PD 2005 180K - but the thing is, it is really solid, nothing like a 14 year old car of yesteryear.
    Originally posted by andygb
    That's because they don't rust and rot away like cars of yesteryear did. Unless it's a MK1 Primera or MK1 Ka.
    • GunJack
    • By GunJack 5th Dec 19, 7:10 PM
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    GunJack
    ...and the Bangernomics success continues

    Mrs.G-J's Mondeo passed it's MoT today, with just a couple of side repeater indicators needed - £11 and another year

    We've had it 5 years already and it was £1k when we bought it..
    ......Gettin' There, Wherever There is......

    I have a dodgy "i" key, so ignore spelling errors due to "i" issues, ...I blame Apple
    • LeeUK
    • By LeeUK 5th Dec 19, 7:27 PM
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    No longer in the bangernomic territory

    • GunJack
    • By GunJack 5th Dec 19, 7:39 PM
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    No longer in the bangernomic territory

    Originally posted by LeeUK
    SPLITTER!!!!!!


    ...only time (& money ) will tell if it was a good move
    ......Gettin' There, Wherever There is......

    I have a dodgy "i" key, so ignore spelling errors due to "i" issues, ...I blame Apple
    • Farzackerly
    • By Farzackerly 6th Dec 19, 4:11 AM
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    No longer in the bangernomic territory

    Originally posted by LeeUK
    Ah, well; just keep it long enough...
    • LeeUK
    • By LeeUK 6th Dec 19, 7:12 AM
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    SPLITTER!!!!!!


    ...only time (& money ) will tell if it was a good move
    Originally posted by GunJack
    Ah, well; just keep it long enough...
    Originally posted by Farzackerly
    I'll be keeping it 5+ years so will be back in the game soon enough.
    • Farzackerly
    • By Farzackerly 7th Dec 19, 1:46 AM
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    I suppose I'd better update the current state of my parsimonious travel.
    Recently did a top end overhaul on the old GS850 and replaced rings. The old rings weren't worn, but it was sensible to replace them.
    I took the opportunity to fit new valve seals and lap the valves in a touch.

    It only came apart to fix the base gasket leak, which happens to every one of these engines at any mileage between 30k and 50k. Guaranteed.
    This is the third or fourth one I've done in the past 25+ years.
    Fitted a new set of Delkovich exhaust headers, but was struck by a sudden attack of stinginess and refused to pay the extra 150 quid for their silencer, opting instead to fit a Hardly standard muffler (Hardly owners commonly take the standard mufflers off and replace them with noisier ones, in the fond notion it gives them extra cred or something. This leads to a glut of hardly-used standard mufflers on the 'bay).
    I modified that a bit and it's running fine.
    Now doing some fine tuning on the single SU carb I fitted years ago. It's always run ok with that carb but it's never been quite right, so this time around I'm running an AFR gauge to dial it in correctly.
    So, costs.... the rebuild cost a few hundred, but it should be good for another decade at least.
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