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    • bettylou
    • By bettylou 11th Jan 19, 6:09 PM
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    Outdoor Weddings- what happened?!
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    Outdoor Weddings- what happened?! 11th Jan 19 at 6:09 PM
    Just before the budget, there was an announcement about changes to allow couples to marry outdoors and not just in premises with a licence. Then the budget came and went with no further news.
    Can anyone shed any light on this?
    I have my heart set on a cheap and cheerful outdoors wedding so this would really have made a difference to me!
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    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 11th Jan 19, 6:39 PM
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    Why would it anything to do with the budget?

    It seems it didn't...

    http://www.lawandreligionuk.com/2018/10/30/marriage-law-civil-partnership-and-budget-2018/
    Last edited by Gloomendoom; 11-01-2019 at 6:45 PM.
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    • sheramber
    • By sheramber 11th Jan 19, 6:46 PM
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    Why would it anything to do with the budget?
    Originally posted by Gloomendoom
    Because a review of the law was to be announced in the Budget

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46003532

    But like many others, they were bound by restrictions on where couples can marry in England and Wales, meaning they had to attend a legal ceremony at a register office before their dream day.

    Such restrictions could come to an end soon, after it was revealed a shake-up of the law will feature in Monday's Budget.

    The review will look at giving couples more choice on where they hold their wedding and could mean restrictions are lifted on al fresco locations, from gardens to beaches.
    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 11th Jan 19, 8:24 PM
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    • 11th Jan 19, 8:24 PM
    Just before the budget, there was an announcement about changes to allow couples to marry outdoors and not just in premises with a licence. Then the budget came and went with no further news.
    Can anyone shed any light on this?
    I have my heart set on a cheap and cheerful outdoors wedding so this would really have made a difference to me!
    Originally posted by bettylou
    It might still. It wasn't part of the Budget speech but buried in the associated documentation is this...

    "The government has asked the Law Commission to propose options for a simpler and fairer system to give modern couples meaningful choice. This will include looking at reducing unnecessary red tape and lowering the cost of wedding venues for couples."
    “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” - Mark Twain
    • thorsoak
    • By thorsoak 11th Jan 19, 9:03 PM
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    Depends upon what you mean about "outdoor weddings". DS No 3 married outside at the local vineyard in 2015. As long as the venue is licenced for weddings and a Registrar is present, they have been legal for some years x
    • kangoora
    • By kangoora 11th Jan 19, 10:14 PM
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    Because a review of the law was to be announced in the Budget

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46003532

    But like many others, they were bound by restrictions on where couples can marry in England and Wales,......

    The review will look at giving couples more choice on where they hold their wedding and could mean restrictions are lifted on al fresco locations, from gardens to beaches.
    Originally posted by sheramber
    I just glanced at this and thought "who the hell wants to get married in a Tesco"

    Memo to self, get glasses checked.........
    • thorsoak
    • By thorsoak 12th Jan 19, 7:26 AM
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    • 12th Jan 19, 7:26 AM
    i just glanced at this and thought "who the hell wants to get married in a tesco"

    memo to self, get glasses checked.........
    Originally posted by kangoora
    :-d :-d :-d :-d
    • ScarletRibbons
    • By ScarletRibbons 12th Jan 19, 8:52 AM
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    • 12th Jan 19, 8:52 AM
    if you got married in one of the big Tes*o's you could hire their caf! for the reception, and anyone who wanted could do a bit of shopping before they left...… Tes*co could be on to something here.
    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 12th Jan 19, 9:09 AM
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    Depends upon what you mean about "outdoor weddings". DS No 3 married outside at the local vineyard in 2015. As long as the venue is licenced for weddings and a Registrar is present, they have been legal for some years x
    Originally posted by thorsoak

    The place has to be a permanent structure with a roof over it.

    It can't be in the open air.
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    • thorsoak
    • By thorsoak 12th Jan 19, 11:54 AM
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    The place has to be a permanent structure with a roof over it.

    It can't be in the open air.
    Originally posted by Gloomendoom
    This was September 2015 - the Registrar is between bride and groom

    [IMG]P1020053.JPG[/IMG]
    • TonyMMM
    • By TonyMMM 12th Jan 19, 12:20 PM
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    The place has to be a permanent structure with a roof over it.

    It can't be in the open air.
    Originally posted by Gloomendoom
    Currently for outdoor weddings the structure does have to be permanent, with a fixed roof and a solid floor but not necessarily walls, which is why many licensed venues will have some sort of stone gazebo or "Greek temple" style structure in the grounds for the ceremony to take place in.

    It has to be big enough for the two parties, with two registrars (and a table to put the register on) and two witness. The guests can be in the open air.

    The proposed changes, when (if) they finally happen are not just about being outdoors, but about relaxing quite a number of rules. The effect should be that there will be many more options available .... which will increase choice and should drive down costs.

    Many current venues are getting quite worried and may struggle to survive with their current business model.
    • Faith177
    • By Faith177 12th Jan 19, 1:02 PM
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    I got married in the open at Urquhart Castle got married in the ruined kitchens no gazebo or anything but then it was a humanist ceremony and in scotland as long as it’s respectful you can have a humanist marriage any time or place
    First Date 08/11/2008, Moved In Together 01/06/2009, Engaged 01/01/10, Wedding Day 27/04/2013, Baby Moshie due 29/06/2019
    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 12th Jan 19, 1:09 PM
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    This was September 2015 - the Registrar is between bride and groom

    [IMG]P1020053.JPG[/IMG]
    Originally posted by thorsoak
    Can't see the pic I'm afraid. You need to host it elsewhere and embed the url.
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    • TonyMMM
    • By TonyMMM 12th Jan 19, 1:17 PM
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    I got married in the open at Urquhart Castle got married in the ruined kitchens no gazebo or anything but then it was a humanist ceremony and in scotland as long as it’s respectful you can have a humanist marriage any time or place
    Originally posted by Faith177
    Beautiful location (if the weather is OK) ...

    The proposed changes are for weddings in England/Wales .... and will make things similar to the position in Scotland, where the law on marriage is (and always has been) quite different.
    • Katapolt
    • By Katapolt 22nd Jan 19, 3:51 PM
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    I wouldnt hold your breath about it happening any time soon. As with all changes it can really take its sweet time.

    If you want a cheap ceremony - do the legal bit with two witnesses in a registry office, and then you can have whatever kind of ceremony you want wherever you can find somewhere that will let you!
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