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  • Red-Squirrel_2
    Red-Squirrel_2 Posts: 4,341 Forumite
    Are you barking mad?


    We're talking about a couple of dogs and there's at least five things OP can consider instead of getting rid, should they really put their mind to it. Bankruptcy over a couple of dogs and a job change? That's possibly the worst advice I've ever heard on here.

    Maybe I am barking mad, but as I said, it’s what i’d do. I’ve changed jobs in part for the benefit of my dogs in the past though, I don’t think it’s a completely crazy idea.

    The OP’s job is also preventing her taking the best route out of her serious debt problem too, and its only bringing in £1500 a month, in London. Is it worth it?
  • Gemsy81
    Gemsy81 Posts: 182 Forumite
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    I am also an animal lover.....I have just made a hard hard decision to sell one that I bred myself, and owned the mother for 20 years. Because it was that, or disappear down a very deep financial hole. Cancelling my cleaner was also something I had to do!

    With a 640 deficit, you cannot possibly continue with this dog walking thing, you have to find an alternative. If you OH is so intent on keeping the dogs, then maybe he needs to look at changing his job again, as it is that change that seems to have dropped you in it?

    Some posters are sounding harsh, but its coming from a good place, because most of us have been there, we see that to get out of debt involves a total attitude and lifestyle change.
  • laveugle wrote: »
    Sorry, that's an assumption that's just incorrect. At the time, we had waited two years to get dogs to ensure it was something we could definitely do etc.

    My husband was working part time nights and had been for the last 5 years, there was no intention of changing. So we only needed a dog walker on a Monday, who took them out whilst husband was sleeping.

    Then this year (so a year later) he decided he couldn't do it anymore. Whereas before he didn't want to change from what he was doing so as far as we were both concerned they fitted into our lifestyle. And they still do, we go for walks morning, night weekends we go exploring. It's just the current situation is awkward.

    There are a few contradictions in this statement. You both made the decision to accept the dogs based on I'm sure a variety of factors but when your husband decided he couldn't do it anymore, didn't you think about the decision you'd made to have the dogs? You say the dogs fit your lifestyle but they don't because you are living a lifestyle that you can't afford.

    I get it, I'm an animal lover and it is a hard decision here but the way you are going, it's going to be impacting (if not already) on your 7 year old and if you're refusing to change the £325 monthly charge, then you're going to start depriving your child.
    Savings as of April 2023 Savings account - £26460.50(14474.88)Current account - £2140.24(4576.79)Total - £28600.74(19051.67) £1010 (£65pm CS/BS) £250 CS/BS/JS
  • System
    System Posts: 178,093 Community Admin
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    Hugs to you lovely. Where there is a will, there is a way.
    Can anything else be added to your husbands DMP? Or is it all in your name?

    I think the suggestion about speaking to your boss about a pay rise is a very good idea. You obviously work hard and if they value you hopefully they can do something. At the very least if they say they can't help with pay, ask if they can take back the car early?

    Agree with another previous poster about giving your dogs a good run in the morning and then seeing how they get on? My dog does 10 hours absolutely ok but has a great run morning and night
    Is there any option to work from home? Or compress your hours into 4 days? Can you work one weekend day instead of a week day?

    I also noticed you had a family loan. Could you reduce payment on this for a year?

    Xx
  • Pixie5740
    Pixie5740 Posts: 14,515 Forumite
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    How about killing two birds with one stone? Either you or your husband give up your jobs and set up a dog walking business instead. You could earn more that you do now whilst not having to pay someone else to walk your dogs.
  • mumofthetwins
    mumofthetwins Posts: 1,111 Forumite
    Hello laveugle,
    I am sorry you've had a tough day. People are kind on here but maybe don't always consider the impact of what they are writing on the recipient. I am sure posters meant their posts kindly and maybe as a reality check for you. I hop you will come back and keep posting.

    I think you need to get really practical and thought I'd share some of the things I did (and still do) when I totted up the debts my ex-husband had left me with 10 years ago (almost £90k and most of it in my name and only a self employed income to support myself, my 2 kids and pay these debts!)

    I did an inventory of everything I owned from food to toiletries - I realise that I hoard food when I feel stressed! I didn't buy anything I already had. I shopped with a list after meal planning and unearthed the delights of A1di/L1dl shopping - tracking all spends in my lovely book (see below)!!

    I wrote a big list of everything that I owed, the interest rate, balance, minimum payment and date the payment due. I wrote a list of all of my direct debits, what they were for, amount, expiry and when they were due to be paid out. I cancelled the ones which were not necessary and made a note of renewal dates for insurances/utilities etc and got better rates shopping around at renewal time (this is my habit now!!).

    I took a long hard look at all of my income (self employed/maintenance from ex/ family allowance etc) and in particular the DATE I was generally paid. I changed my direct debits payment dates to be able to coincide with when I had payments coming in from my business. I made minimum payments on credit cards etc before due dates and when I got pennies in from my various sources. I only covered minimum payments for about a year but it meant I learned good habits and I got a bit of clear blue water between me and the debt.

    I set myself a weekly CASH budget for food/fuel/socialising and withdrew that each Thursday morning - I paid everything in cash!!!!!! If there was not enough money in my purse I learned to say no and do without - regardless of what it was. Cash is king!! I learned to take a breath and consider if I really needed to buy "this right now" and often the answer was that I didn't and could do without.

    I read Dave Ramsey and I snowballed my debts. You can buy his books online quite cheaply, he has a YouTube channel or you can read his learnings for free!!

    I learned what my triggers for spending were by keeping a spending diary (still do and find it a mindful experience) - I checked my bank accounts every morning (so no hasty surprises) and I slowly wrestled control. I think this maybe a useful exercise for you.

    By doing this I had a proper look at what the current landscape is - used my self employed skill set to get a smart plan together and then cracked on!! You have self-taught yourself your role so you have the skills to work a plan you simply need to change how you frame things.

    Personally I did my absolute utmost to keep my kids, my pooch, my home and my business trading and that was is a good motivation to stick to my budgets etc. On your dog front have you considered shaving one day per week off the walker and see how they get on - puppy pads are great (my dog is almost 20 and incontinent) and you could maybe secure an area like a utility room or kitchen for them to be in. I found it was by chipping away at every single penny I spent that I managed to learn to breathe and pay down my debts.

    Writing a diary will help you keep the faith!

    ((hugs))

    WM xx


    some fantastic words of wisdom here .. I was just going to type a reply but I think most is covered above ;)


    ive been debt busting for around 3 months (since finding dave ramsey OML he is amazing) and have paid off over £7000 .. cash is sooo king and I always list shop and sell sell sell .. ebay has been a life saver for me and I have to say I really enjoy it. I have 2 jobs and most of my free spare time is ebay time. I have 2 15 year old boys and I don't see them as much but at 15 they don't really want to hang with their mam but I did manage to cash flow download festival for the three of us a couple of weeks ago and I have cash flowed their school trip to berlin .. all within the 3 months and on top of the £7000 debt payments.
    you can so do this hun .. listen to Mr Ramsey .. is pod casts are great for work communtes, get your debts all written down lowest to highest balance .. get the budget in place and start snowballing ..


    on the pooch front .. could you possibly dog share ? I have a little furry girl (shes my baby) but she stays at my mums whie im at work .. my parents spoil her more than they do the kids, then she comes home and I get my fun time .. normally her buried under ebay parcels lol


    just an idea .. Lisa x
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  • HampshireH
    HampshireH Posts: 4,473 Forumite
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    Hey OP

    I too have a dog walker. Your rates seem high.

    We pay £12 a day for a group 1 hour wall 5 days a week.

    We will be cutting this down to 4 days a week as between us we have at least 1 day working from home a week. Not sure what area you are in but £16.25 hour is expensive!

    We buy James Wellbeloved kibble it works out at £35 every 5-6 weeks on an 18kg bag. By going to a supermarket brand you could save much more. We use zooplus annual discount applied to each purchase and cashback site.

    Pet insurance for our 2 year old labrador is £12.49 a month. He isnt insured to anywhere near the level yours are but you cant afford to cover them on a premium policy so shop around as your paying £708 a year for that and an expensive vet programme.

    Its much cheaper to get flea/worming stuff on line at places like pet supermarket or viovet (again with cashback) you buy the prescription from the vet £8.20 ish and shop online.

    No need for quarterly vet visits. Once a year is fine unless something goes wrong. Remove your own ticks etc cut the nails yourself, use the internet as most things can be treated at home. Anything which cannot wont be covered by your treatment plan anyway and ypu will have further costs

    I could have saved £25 on our 1st vet visit alone by checking prices online instead of being ripped off by the vet for a visit plus prescription plus medication. Lesson learnt.

    All the best
  • Shelbi
    Shelbi Posts: 744 Forumite
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    Hi & welcome!

    I just wanted to delurk and say congratulations on beginning your debt free journey... The first step is always the hardest and you've done it, everyone here will be right behind you! I would definitely check out Dave ramsey..He really helped me & keeps me focused..his method of paying minimum on all debts and tackling them one by one smallest to largest will help you feel like your making traction. you can listen to his book total money makeover on you tube for free..will save you buying it :) also I used to listen to the debt free screams- there's people on there who have cleared collossal amounts so it really helps to see theres no debt that cant be taken down.

    I think some NSD's, selling stuff on ebay, scrimping where you can you will get there..I look forward to seeing you do it and cheering you on from the sidelines..wishing you lots of luck.


    Shelbi x
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    Emergency Fund- £1,000/£5,000
    House Deposit- £0/£25,000.
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  • tlc678910
    tlc678910 Posts: 982 Forumite
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    Hi OP,
    I think the key to you getting rid of the dog walking costs and possibly the childcare costs (or at least lowering them) could be your partner looking out for a job with different hours. For example traditional shifts that are 6am - 2pm or 2pm - 10pm as he would be able to walk the dogs and help more often with childcare. Perhaps he might find something close to home that does have an hour lunch break /school hours.

    It might be worth considering that if he earned £600 less you would be no worse off as long as he could do the daytime dog care and the childcare so he could even consider jobs that offer less hours than currently and look to do some overtime or combine with a second job.

    I suggest your partner (rather than you) as he earns less so it should be easier for him to find something that pays roughly the same (or more would be nice).

    Good luck
    Tlc
  • laveugle
    laveugle Posts: 35 Forumite
    HampshireH wrote: »
    Hey OP

    I too have a dog walker. Your rates seem high.

    We pay £12 a day for a group 1 hour wall 5 days a week.

    We will be cutting this down to 4 days a week as between us we have at least 1 day working from home a week. Not sure what area you are in but £16.25 hour is expensive!

    We buy James Wellbeloved kibble it works out at £35 every 5-6 weeks on an 18kg bag. By going to a supermarket brand you could save much more. We use zooplus annual discount applied to each purchase and cashback site.

    Pet insurance for our 2 year old labrador is £12.49 a month. He isnt insured to anywhere near the level yours are but you cant afford to cover them on a premium policy so shop around as your paying £708 a year for that and an expensive vet programme.

    Its much cheaper to get flea/worming stuff on line at places like pet supermarket or viovet (again with cashback) you buy the prescription from the vet £8.20 ish and shop online.

    No need for quarterly vet visits. Once a year is fine unless something goes wrong. Remove your own ticks etc cut the nails yourself, use the internet as most things can be treated at home. Anything which cannot wont be covered by your treatment plan anyway and ypu will have further costs

    I could have saved £25 on our 1st vet visit alone by checking prices online instead of being ripped off by the vet for a visit plus prescription plus medication. Lesson learnt.

    All the best

    The dog walking dates are pretty typical for here, in fact we were paying more with the previous Walker.

    Thank yo7 for your comments I!!!8217;m going to have a look through everything you!!!8217;ve said about prescriptions etc and see if I can source the treatments cheaper. I did do a comparison but possibly got it wrong

    Oh and I!!!8217;ll look at dog food, I!!!8217;m just really keen on getting a high quality no grain one
    Debt: £52,071.1:eek:
    I'm totally going to pay this off within 5 years, you just watch me.
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