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My wife received a PCN/NTK dated 04/09/2018 for parking at a residential car park. I have followed the NEWBIES appealing procedures and finally got the CLAIM FORM (dated 04/03/2019) from County Court Business Centre.
The claimant is VEHICLE CONTROL SERVICES LTD., claiming for £100 + £60 + £25 (court fee), totally £185. The driver of the vehicle has never been identified, and I have sent back the AOS on 16/03/2019 by signed for 1st class mail.

Could anyone kindly advise that if I can use the defence from Bargepole (thread#2 on NEWBIES "A defence by bargepole, showing that a defence about unclear signs should be written concisely" ) for my wife's case by deleting some irrelevant paragraph/s.

Many thanks.
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  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 37,638 Forumite
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    With a Claim Issue Date of 4th March, and having done the Acknowledgement of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Monday 8th April 2019 to file your Defence.

    That's nearly three weeks away. Loads of time to produce a perfect Defence, but don't leave it to the very last minute.


    When you are happy with the content, your Defence should be filed via email as suggested here:
      Print your Defence.
    1. Sign it and date it.
    2. Scan the signed document back in and save it as a pdf.
    3. Send that pdf as an email attachment to CCBCAQ@Justice.gov.uk
    4. Just put the claim number and the word Defence in the email title, and in the body of the email something like 'Please find my Defence attached'.
    5. Log into MCOL after a few days to see if the Claim is marked "defended". If not chase the CCBC until it is.
    6. Do not be surprised to receive a copy of the Claimant's Directions Questionnaire, they are just trying to put you under pressure.
    7. Wait for your DQ from the CCBC, or download one from the internet, and then re-read post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread to find out exactly what to do with it.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 131,669 Forumite
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    If it was a residential car park, wasn't it a 'CN' that wasn't a 'parking charge'? Like the example VCS defence?
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  • p1c2j333
    p1c2j333 Posts: 25 Forumite
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    You are right, Coupon-mad. The claim form says it is a CN. Could you please direct me to the example
    VCS defence. Thanking you.
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 37,638 Forumite
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    p1c2j333 wrote: »
    Could you please direct me to the example VCS defence.
    It's in the NEWBIES thread. You already have a link to that thread.
  • p1c2j333
    p1c2j333 Posts: 25 Forumite
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    IN THE COUNTY COURT

    CLAIM No: FXXXXXXX

    BETWEEN:

    VEHICLE CONTROL SERVICES LIMITED

    -and –

    XXXXXXXXX



    DEFENCE

    1. The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all.

    2. The facts are that the vehicle, registration XXXX, of which the Defendant is the registered keeper, appears from the sparse evidence supplied by this Claimant, to be parked on the material date on a public road, not on any yellow lines nor causing an obstruction.

    2.1. It is denied that a 'charge notice' ('CN') was affixed to the car on the material date given in the Particulars. This Claimant is known to routinely affix misleading pieces of paper in a yellow/black envelope impersonating authority, bearing the legend 'this is NOT a Parking Charge Notice'. It is reasonable to conclude, from the date of the premature Notice to Keeper ('NTK') that was posted, that the hybrid note that the Claimant asserts was a 'CN' was no such thing, and therefore the driver was not served with a document that created any liability for any charge whatsoever. The Claimant is put to strict proof.

    2.2. Accordingly, it is denied that any contravention or breach of clearly signed/lined terms occurred, and it is denied that the driver was properly informed about any parking charge, either by signage or by a CN.

    3. The Particulars of Claim does not state whether they believe the Defendant was the registered keeper and/or the driver of the vehicle. These assertions indicate that the Claimant has failed to identify a Cause of Action, and is simply offering a menu of choices. As such, the Claim fails to comply with Civil Procedure Rule 16.4, or with Civil Practice Direction 16, paras. 7.3 to 7.5. Further, the particulars of the claim do not meet the requirements of Practice Direction 16 7.5 as there is nothing which specifies how the terms were breached.

    4. Due to the sparseness of the particulars, it is unclear as to what legal basis the claim is brought, whether for breach of contract, contractual liability, or trespass. However, it is denied that the Defendant, or any driver of the vehicle, entered into any contractual agreement with the Claimant, whether express, implied, or by conduct.

    5. Further and in the alternative, it is denied that the claimant's signage sets out the terms in a sufficiently clear manner which would be capable of binding any reasonable person reading them. The signage is attached to a gate and reads: 'By entering this private land you are entering into a contract with Vehicle Control Services'.

    5.1. Vehicle registration XXXX has not entered past the boundary of the residential area claimed to be private land and therefore is not entered into a contract with Vehicle Control Services. There was no clear sign at the entry point (there is even no specified entry point or clearly marked boundary) to warn drivers who enter into the controlled residential area.

    5.2. Even if the Court is minded to consider that the car did pass that the entry point, the terms of the sparse signage make no offer available; there is no licence to park.

    5.3. At best, parking without authorisation could be a matter for the landowner to pursue, in the event that damages were caused by a trespass. A parking charge cannot be dressed up by a non-landowner parking firm, as a fee, or a sum in damages owed to that firm for positively inviting and allowing a car to trespass. Not only is this a nonsense, but the Supreme Court decision in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67, confirmed that ParkingEye could not have pursued a sum in damages or for trespass.

    5.4. County Court transcripts supporting the Defendant's position will be adduced, and in all respects, the Beavis case is distinguished.

    6. The Claimant is put to strict proof that it has sufficient proprietary interest in the land, or that it has the necessary authorisation from the landowner to issue pieces of paper that are not 'charge notices', and to pursue payment by means of litigation.

    6.1. It is suggested that this novel twist (unsupported by the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 - the 'POFA') of placing hybrid notes stating 'this is NOT a Parking Charge Notice' on cars, then ambushing the registered keeper with a premature postal NTK, well before the timeline set out in paragraph 8 of the POFA, is unlikely to have been in the contemplation of the Claimant's principal.

    6.2. It is averred that the landowner contract, if there is one that was in existence at the material time, is likely to define and provide that the Claimant can issue 'parking charge notices' (or CNs) to cars - following the procedure set out in paragraph 8 of the POFA - or alternatively, postal PCNs where there was no opportunity to serve a CN (e.g. in non-manned ANPR camera car parks, and as set out in paragraph 9 of the POFA). The Claimant is put to strict proof of its authority to issue hybrid non-CNs, which are neither one thing nor the other, and create no certainty of contract or charge whatsoever.

    7. The POFA, at Section 4(5) states that the maximum sum that may be recovered from the keeper is the charge stated on the Notice to Keeper, in this case £100. The claim includes an additional £60, for which no calculation or explanation is given, and which appears to be an attempt at double recovery.

    8. In summary, it is the Defendant's position that the claim discloses no cause of action, is without merit, and has no real prospect of success. Accordingly, the Court is invited to strike out the claim of its own initiative, using its case management powers pursuant to CPR 3.4.


    “I believe the facts contained in this Defence Statement are true.”

    Name
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    Date




    Can anyone please comment on the above draft as I am ready to send this to the court.
    Many thanks.
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,503 Forumite
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    I am puzzled, the OP says the car was parked in a residential car park, post 6 paragraph 2 says a public road. If that is the case why not just a single point defence, PPCs cannot issue PCNs on public roads.

    If it was parked on a public road why have you not complained to the
    council? Also, I would advise you to complain to your MP.

    On 18th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these private parking companies. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, and persistent offenders denied access. Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers.

    Until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

    Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 131,669 Forumite
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    ...on a public road, not on any yellow lines nor causing an obstruction.
    Change this to 'in a residential car park', unless she was parked on an access road near the residential car park.

    Was she visiting a resident? This makes a difference and if so, needs saying.
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  • p1c2j333
    p1c2j333 Posts: 25 Forumite
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    Thank you, coupon-mad.
    She was visiting a resident there. However, I am quite sure that it is the residential car park, and there is no clear/marked boundary, as this car park is connected to a public road.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 131,669 Forumite
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    OK so have this, IF IT IS TRUE THAT THE SIGNS SAID NOTHING ABOUT VISITORS?

    2. The facts are that the vehicle, registration XXXX, of which the Defendant is the registered keeper, appears from the sparse evidence supplied by this Claimant, to be parked on the material date in a residential car park where the driver was authorised as a visitor. No terms offered a parking licence to a visitor, nor any instructions on how to obtain a permit if that was required, and thus any contract depending upon the immediate display of a permit was only capable of being applied to a resident, and was otherwise void for impossibility.
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  • p1c2j333
    p1c2j333 Posts: 25 Forumite
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    yes, the signs say nothing about vistors but only permit holders. So I am going to amend the defece accordingly.
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