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    • GTR King
    • By GTR King 30th Oct 17, 1:51 PM
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    PS4 Pro/Xbox one X Upgrade
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    • 30th Oct 17, 1:51 PM
    PS4 Pro/Xbox one X Upgrade 30th Oct 17 at 1:51 PM
    Ok So I have original PS4 (Black) & XBOX one S (Deep Blue)... (Use 2 Portable Hard Drive's for extra storage)

    What are the pros/cons of upgrading...

    Should I buy PS4 Pro or Xbox One X

    I don't have 4k TV But thinking of getting one soon (I Have 32inch Sony Full HD TV Silver)

    PS4 runs fine but is sometimes Laggy/slow (Destiny 2)

    Should I not bother upgrading?

    Was tempted for PS4 Pro
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    • King_Nothing
    • By King_Nothing 31st Oct 17, 2:06 PM
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    I'll be getting both, probably when they drop in price, I don't see much of a massive boost in performance for me to justify the cost that they are now. I already have an OLED 4k TV.
    • unholyangel
    • By unholyangel 31st Oct 17, 11:58 PM
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    xbonex is the better machine spec wise but 100 more. Xbox also has bluray while ps4 does not iirc. So I suppose it depends whether those differences are worth 100 to you or not.

    Wait till black friday/cyber monday end of november. If there isn't a deal to tempt you then personally I'd wait till xbonex has 6months + under its belt to make sure there are no "kinks" in the system.
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    • GTR King
    • By GTR King 1st Nov 17, 1:37 PM
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    • 1st Nov 17, 1:37 PM
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    • 1st Nov 17, 1:37 PM
    My XB1 S Has 4K Blu Ray/Video (Amazon/Netflix) HDR Gaming (Happy with that)

    So is it worth upgrading to xbox X?

    My PS4 Is 1st edition got it on release date.

    So tempted for PS4 Pro
    Last edited by GTR King; 01-11-2017 at 1:39 PM.
    • unholyangel
    • By unholyangel 1st Nov 17, 5:26 PM
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    In that case, in your shoes I'd buy the ps4 pro this month (although I'd still wait for black friday to see if there are any good deals) and then next year maybe the X (which gives it time to possibly drop in price/work out any teething issues).

    That being said, I believe there are a few deals around atm giving 3-4 games, 1tb console for 350 and sometimes black friday deals can be a bust (ie giving discounts on refurb/graded consoles but not on new ones).
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    • donnajunkie
    • By donnajunkie 1st Nov 17, 6:17 PM
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    • 1st Nov 17, 6:17 PM
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    • 1st Nov 17, 6:17 PM
    xbonex is the better machine spec wise but 100 more. Xbox also has bluray while ps4 does not iirc. So I suppose it depends whether those differences are worth 100 to you or not.

    Wait till black friday/cyber monday end of november. If there isn't a deal to tempt you then personally I'd wait till xbonex has 6months + under its belt to make sure there are no "kinks" in the system.
    Originally posted by unholyangel
    Not sure what iirc means but ps4 does have bluray.
    • Johnmcl7
    • By Johnmcl7 1st Nov 17, 8:46 PM
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    • 1st Nov 17, 8:46 PM
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    The PS4 Pro is a bit of a half hearted upgrade as Sony wanted to release their console before Microsoft and keep the price down but it's meant it's not as much an upgrade as it should be. In particular despite 4K needing much more video ram, the PS4 pro only gets a small amount more and it uses the same weak CPU cores as the original PS4, just clocked a bit higher. This means Destiny 2 for example still runs at just 30fps on the PS4 Pro:

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-why-cant-destiny-run-at-60fps-on-ps4-pro

    The Xbox One X is a much more powerful console, ram is increased by 50% from 8GB to 12GB and the GPU is a substantial upgrade meaning it should be able to run much better than the PS4 Pro at 4K. Microsoft's developer support for the X has so far been much better than the fairly lack luster approach Sony took to the pro so at launch there should be a large selection of 4K updates for the X at launch. It shares the same weakness as the PS4 Pro though with the CPU cores again only using slightly higher clocked version of the original low performance CPU cores.

    All that aside though, which platform do you play more? Both are upgrades over their standard versions but if you primarily play one platform then I don't think it's worth buying the upgraded version of the other platform.

    Not sure what iirc means but ps4 does have bluray.
    Originally posted by donnajunkie
    I assume they were meaning Blu-ray 4K which neither the PS4 Pro or any of the other PS4 variants support. IIRC - If I Recall Correctly
    • unholyangel
    • By unholyangel 2nd Nov 17, 4:18 AM
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    • 2nd Nov 17, 4:18 AM
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    The PS4 Pro is a bit of a half hearted upgrade as Sony wanted to release their console before Microsoft and keep the price down but it's meant it's not as much an upgrade as it should be. In particular despite 4K needing much more video ram, the PS4 pro only gets a small amount more and it uses the same weak CPU cores as the original PS4, just clocked a bit higher. This means Destiny 2 for example still runs at just 30fps on the PS4 Pro:

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-why-cant-destiny-run-at-60fps-on-ps4-pro

    The Xbox One X is a much more powerful console, ram is increased by 50% from 8GB to 12GB and the GPU is a substantial upgrade meaning it should be able to run much better than the PS4 Pro at 4K. Microsoft's developer support for the X has so far been much better than the fairly lack luster approach Sony took to the pro so at launch there should be a large selection of 4K updates for the X at launch. It shares the same weakness as the PS4 Pro though with the CPU cores again only using slightly higher clocked version of the original low performance CPU cores.

    All that aside though, which platform do you play more? Both are upgrades over their standard versions but if you primarily play one platform then I don't think it's worth buying the upgraded version of the other platform.



    I assume they were meaning Blu-ray 4K which neither the PS4 Pro or any of the other PS4 variants support. IIRC - If I Recall Correctly
    Originally posted by Johnmcl7
    I can kind of understand why sony did that though. I mean ps3 was the better spec but I seem to remember they were more expensive at launch and their sales initially suffered until they dropped the price and imo the 360 was by far the better gaming experience. I'm finding it a lot tougher to call between the one/x and 4/pro.

    Tbh I don't often get a chance to play mine - but when I do, its generally xbone. Partner prefers ps4 though.

    Although I think services might be more expensive on sony (for plus, now etc) and xbox have the benefit of microsoft rewards (which I posted about on here a while back as you can earn 12 months live & approx 50 in xbox credit for using bing search in addition to the xbox live rewards scheme).
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    • GTR King
    • By GTR King 4th Nov 17, 5:52 PM
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    I would get the XB1 X But only got the XB1 S Last year, where as my PS4 I had since launch...

    I know PS4 Pro not as good as XB1 X
    • custardy
    • By custardy 4th Nov 17, 5:57 PM
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    I would invest in the 4K TV first IMO.
    • donnajunkie
    • By donnajunkie 4th Nov 17, 6:11 PM
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    I would invest in the 4K TV first IMO.
    Originally posted by custardy
    And consider what games you want to play. Its no good having a more powerful Xbox one x if you prefer playstation games.
    • GTR King
    • By GTR King 5th Nov 17, 4:11 PM
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    I am gonna get 4K TV first...

    Xbox I prefer for exclusive

    PS4 I prefer for multi plat games (All my friends have PS4)

    So tempted for PS4 Pro

    Happy with my XB1 S

    But is PS4 Pro worth buying or not?
    • custardy
    • By custardy 6th Nov 17, 6:12 AM
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    I am gonna get 4K TV first...

    Xbox I prefer for exclusive

    PS4 I prefer for multi plat games (All my friends have PS4)

    So tempted for PS4 Pro

    Happy with my XB1 S

    But is PS4 Pro worth buying or not?
    Originally posted by GTR King
    nobody is going to answer this for you,not sure how you expect them to?
    for me the lack of 4K disc playback on the PS4 decimates its worth.
    Last edited by custardy; 06-11-2017 at 6:25 AM.
    • DCFC79
    • By DCFC79 6th Nov 17, 8:21 AM
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    I am gonna get 4K TV first...

    Xbox I prefer for exclusive

    PS4 I prefer for multi plat games (All my friends have PS4)

    So tempted for PS4 Pro

    Happy with my XB1 S

    But is PS4 Pro worth buying or not?
    Originally posted by GTR King
    Do you know anyone with a ps4 pro you could test out ?

    Why is it you want to replace either console ?
    Can people stop loaning money/being a guarator to family/friends, it rarely ends well and you lose out as your money is gone or you get shafted with being a guarantor.
    • GTR King
    • By GTR King 7th Nov 17, 1:31 PM
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    I just fancied getting one as my PS4 Is old (Had it since launch)

    Will they every add 4K Blu Ray Support?

    Will wait till they reduced it in price
    • DCFC79
    • By DCFC79 7th Nov 17, 2:04 PM
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    Will they every add 4K Blu Ray Support?
    Originally posted by GTR King
    Who knows, maybe at some point they will release an updated version with 4K Blu Ray.
    Can people stop loaning money/being a guarator to family/friends, it rarely ends well and you lose out as your money is gone or you get shafted with being a guarantor.
    • GTR King
    • By GTR King 7th Nov 17, 6:19 PM
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    Well PS4 Pro can take Play 4K Games so there must be update which will allow 4K Blu rays... If not will release new one with 4K Everything
    • Lumstorm
    • By Lumstorm 7th Nov 17, 7:56 PM
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    Well PS4 Pro can take Play 4K Games so there must be update which will allow 4K Blu rays... If not will release new one with 4K Everything
    Originally posted by GTR King
    They can't update the PS4 pro to play 4K BD they would need to change the disc drive.
    • GTR King
    • By GTR King 7th Nov 17, 8:45 PM
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    I see...

    Maybe one day they will Add new PS4 Pro with 4K Blu Ray
    • donnajunkie
    • By donnajunkie 7th Nov 17, 11:28 PM
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    I would use it purely as a game machine anyway. Thats what its for and increased use due to watching movies will just reduce its life. I watched alot of blurays on my old ps3 and now its struggling to read game discs. I would just get a 4k capable bluray player if i wanted to watch 4k blurays.
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