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  • Hi, I was declared bankrupt on 05.09.2016 and discharged on 05.09.2017.


    I have had to pay a monthly payment for the last 3 years. This months will be the last payment.


    Upon this date nearing I have started looking into my credit report.


    It is still showing on a few different account that im actually still defaulting on these 3 years on? Surely that cant be correct? I am worried there is something I should have done or someone I should have notified.


    Any assistance and advise welcome.
  • StepChange_Kirsty
    StepChange_Kirsty Posts: 180 Organisation Representative
    Hi Chris,

    Thanks for your message and welcome to the forum.

    When you go into Bankruptcy the creditors can still default the account which means that a default marker is placed on your credit file for a period of 6 years. If the default notice has been sent out after the Bankruptcy Order, the default mark on the credit file should always be backdated to before the Bankruptcy Order.

    You will also have a mark on the credit file showing you have been made Bankrupt which stays on your credit file for six years. This would mean that the Bankruptcy mark and any records of any Bankruptcy debts should be fully cleared from your credit file around the same time; six years from the date of the Bankruptcy Order.

    It sounds as though these defaults are correct if the Bankruptcy was in 2016 but if any defaults are dated after the 05/09/2019 you can ask your creditors to backdate these.

    I hope this helps.

    Kirsty


    Chrispaps wrote: »
    Hi, I was declared bankrupt on 05.09.2016 and discharged on 05.09.2017.


    I have had to pay a monthly payment for the last 3 years. This months will be the last payment.


    Upon this date nearing I have started looking into my credit report.


    It is still showing on a few different account that im actually still defaulting on these 3 years on? Surely that cant be correct? I am worried there is something I should have done or someone I should have notified.


    Any assistance and advise welcome.
    I work as a debt advisor for StepChange Debt Charity and have specific permission from Martin to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on StepChange Debt Charity in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article. If you find you're struggling with debt and you need further help try our online advice facility Debt Remedy.

    Don't be afraid of getting debt advice. We'll help you take one more step towards getting help with your debt.
  • I have two questions on the bankruptcy form.

    1. On the expenditure section, do I enter the monthly payments to credit cards as an expense? I noticed there wasn't a box for it, so I would have to put this as 'other'.

    2. Under Income section, Directorships for limited company, I didn't know whether to enter 'active' as a director as the company is in the process of being voluntarily struck off. It has been published in the Official Gazette, first notice. There are no debts outstanding on the company, I am the only director and it hasn't been trading for over 12 months. In one sense, I am an active director as the company is active on the companies house register until the status goes to dissolved but in a practical day to day sense or from HMRC viewpoint the company isn't active. What do you suggest I put?
  • StepChange_Rachael
    StepChange_Rachael Posts: 375 Organisation Representative
    First Anniversary First Post
    Hi

    Thanks for posting on the forum.

    For advice on completing the bankruptcy petition I’d recommend contacting the Insolvency Inquiry line, you can find their details at the bottom of the Gov.uk webpage I’ve attached. They are a dedicated team that can answer questions on completing the application.

    I’d also recommend speaking with the Business Debtline for specialist advice regarding the directorship of the limited company before submitting your application, they would be able to help answer your queries specific to the limited company.

    Thanks
    Rachael




    wandablake wrote: »
    I have two questions on the bankruptcy form.

    1. On the expenditure section, do I enter the monthly payments to credit cards as an expense? I noticed there wasn't a box for it, so I would have to put this as 'other'.

    2. Under Income section, Directorships for limited company, I didn't know whether to enter 'active' as a director as the company is in the process of being voluntarily struck off. It has been published in the Official Gazette, first notice. There are no debts outstanding on the company, I am the only director and it hasn't been trading for over 12 months. In one sense, I am an active director as the company is active on the companies house register until the status goes to dissolved but in a practical day to day sense or from HMRC viewpoint the company isn't active. What do you suggest I put?
  • Vinny112
    Vinny112 Posts: 2 Newbie
    edited 30 October 2019 at 6:22PM
    I have two questions on the bankruptcy.

    What happens to a statutory demand when a bankruptcy hearing is vacated? Before hearing date.

    Is a statutory demand valid if it's not signed by solicitor or the creditor but by a debt collection agent?
  • StepChange_Kirsty
    StepChange_Kirsty Posts: 180 Organisation Representative
    Hi Vinny,

    Thanks for your post and welcome to the forum.

    It really depends on the reasons the bankruptcy hearing is vacated as to what happens to the statutory demand. The statutory demand is a formal request to pay a debt, but it is not a court document therefore if the hearing was vacated to move it to another date (e.g. to allow you more time to pay) then the original demand is still valid. If on the other hand it has been vacated because the debt is disputed but then found still to be owed, it’s likely the creditor would issue a new statutory demand following any new court orders.

    The statutory demand would still be valid if signed by a debt recovery agent on behalf of the creditor. It does not need to be signed by a solicitor.

    I hope this helps.

    Kirsty


    Vinny112 wrote: »
    I have two questions on the bankruptcy.

    What happens to a statutory demand when a bankruptcy hearing is vacated? Before hearing date.

    Is a statutory demand valid if it's not signed by solicitor or the creditor but by a debt collection agent?
    I work as a debt advisor for StepChange Debt Charity and have specific permission from Martin to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on StepChange Debt Charity in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article. If you find you're struggling with debt and you need further help try our online advice facility Debt Remedy.

    Don't be afraid of getting debt advice. We'll help you take one more step towards getting help with your debt.
  • Hi.
    Thinking of going bankrupt or either a DRO as I'm on the sick and don't know when I will be back into work, due to my illness I'm going to decrease my hours also as I cant cope with my current hours so the extra pay I normally have isn't/won't be there to pay my creditors. I'm wondering where my husband's finances will come into it if I do apply for a bankruptcy or a DRO, he earns more than myself as I only do part time as we have 2 kids under 4, will they take his earnings into account? He has his own expenses to pay out and run a car as we live in a rural area and getting to work would be extremely hard to do without his car, he also has his own small debts to pay off, we pay 50/50 on household and utilities.
    I would be really grateful if someone could clarify as I'm searching for answers and all it says is that his credit rating won't be affected, I don't want to apply and be told that my husband should be paying for my debts as he earns more.
    Many thanks in advance.
  • Hi,
    I currently have an IVA (I’m 3 years into it) I have inherited my fathers house, mortgage free. I would like to pay off my Iva what is the best way of going about this? Ideally a secured loan for £40000
  • StepChange_Rachael
    StepChange_Rachael Posts: 375 Organisation Representative
    First Anniversary First Post
    Hi

    Thanks for your message and welcome to the forum.

    DRO’s and Bankruptcy do have differences, although they are both insolvencies that look at writing off problem debt. DRO’s have stricter criteria to meet but as both options are applying to the Insolvency Service to write off debt, they will review each applicant’s financial situation.

    Your husband wouldn’t be expected to pay towards your debts, but you would be expected to be paying a fair payment towards the shared costs based on your income and the household expenses. In bankruptcy the Official Receiver, who overlooks the process, can set an income payment arrangement into the bankruptcy. This means if you have more than £20 available at the end of the month, after household bills and general living costs have been paid, then this would be paid each month towards the bankruptcy for a maximum of three years. The reason they may request a joint household budget is to make sure you’re not paying more towards the bills than your fair share. For example, if you earn less then it might be expected you’d pay a proportionate amount towards the bills rather than half.

    Your husbands credit file wouldn’t be impacted unless they defaulted on debts in their name and assets in their name wouldn’t be impacted either, unless it was seen that you have a beneficial interest in those assets. For example, someone living in their partners mortgaged property might be seen to have a beneficial interest and that could be affected in insolvency, even if they aren’t named on the mortgage.

    When it comes to assets ultimately this will be the Official Receiver’s decision and may come down to who has purchased the items and who’s name is it registered in, especially with a vehicle.

    I’d recommend getting some free debt advice to get a better understanding of the options available to you. For a DRO you’d have to go through a money advisory service to help with the application, for bankruptcy the Insolvency Service will expect an applicant has been recommended this solution by a third party
    .
    If you’d like to get advice through us at StepChange we’d be more than happy to help. You can find the contact details here.

    Thanks
    Rachael







    Lal1980 wrote: »
    Hi.
    Thinking of going bankrupt or either a DRO as I'm on the sick and don't know when I will be back into work, due to my illness I'm going to decrease my hours also as I cant cope with my current hours so the extra pay I normally have isn't/won't be there to pay my creditors. I'm wondering where my husband's finances will come into it if I do apply for a bankruptcy or a DRO, he earns more than myself as I only do part time as we have 2 kids under 4, will they take his earnings into account? He has his own expenses to pay out and run a car as we live in a rural area and getting to work would be extremely hard to do without his car, he also has his own small debts to pay off, we pay 50/50 on household and utilities.
    I would be really grateful if someone could clarify as I'm searching for answers and all it says is that his credit rating won't be affected, I don't want to apply and be told that my husband should be paying for my debts as he earns more.
    Many thanks in advance.
  • StepChange_Rachael
    StepChange_Rachael Posts: 375 Organisation Representative
    First Anniversary First Post
    Hi

    Thanks for your post.

    The Insolvency Practitioner would explain to you how this asset would impact the IVA. They’d be able to explain the next steps and what it means for the IVA going forward. As IVA’s are all individual agreements that differ depending on a person’s financial situation, It will ultimately be down to the Insolvency Practitioners decision. I’d suggest speaking with them as soon as possible.

    Thanks
    Rachael




    Hi,
    I currently have an IVA (I’m 3 years into it) I have inherited my fathers house, mortgage free. I would like to pay off my Iva what is the best way of going about this? Ideally a secured loan for £40000
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