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Need urgent help: County court claim private parking PCN

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Hello experts,

I received a court claim form for parking in a private space on 15th March 2019. They had sent me PCN which I did not reply to or accepted to pay. The parking company is Euro Parking Services ltd and the solicitors are Gladstones solicitors ltd. I had filed an Aos which gave me 33 days from this date to file my defence. I requested Gladstones the following information which they did not reply to.

Dear Sir/Madam

Ref *****

I have received a claim regarding these parking notices

I no longer possess either of the parking notices or any subsequent correspondence

In accordance with the Over-riding Objective, I require copies of all the documents and photographs that your client intends to rely on

In addition to the parking notices and subsequent correspondence I require :

1 The documentary evidence required by your client's Code of Practice Para B (1.1) that demonstrates sufficient right to occupy the land in question.
2 A copy of your client's contract with Debt Recovery Plus and evidence that it paid the charges
3 Photographs of the signs at the location and a site plan
4 Evidence that the signs have the required planning consent or an explanation why it is not required
5 A clear statement whether the claim is for (a) a contractual charge (b) a breach of a contract or © trespass

I presume that you have completed the due diligence on your client's evidence prior to raising the claim and expect to receive the documents within 7 days.

I have attached a picture of my passport for ID purposes.

Regards,


I also requested for SAR which i have got reply back from and going to post the details over here. I now need to file a defence by 16th Apr 2019. I have prepared a defence, please could someone review and suggest any improvements.


IN THE COUNTY COURT

CLAIM No: xxxxxxxxxx

BETWEEN:

EURO PARKING SERVICES LIMITED (Claimant)

-and-

xxxxxxxxxxxx (Defendant)

________________________________________
DEFENCE
________________________________________

1) The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all.

2) The terms on the Claimant's signage do not offer any kind of parking service to anyone who isn't in a pre-authorised vehicle or holding a permit. If there is no offer of parking then the basic requirements for forming a contract with the driver are not present (in basic terms, 'offer', 'acceptance', and 'consideration'), and no contract can be formed. If there is no contract then there is no breach, and hence no charge for a breach. It is, therefore, denied that the Claimant's signage is capable of creating a legally binding contract.

3) The Defendant believes, Parking in what is effectively a 'no parking' arrangement would be a Trespass issue, for which only the landholder can take action (not some parking company) and only for nominal or actual damages, not some made-up £100 charge.

4) The Defendant denies that driver or keeper of the vehicle agreed to pay the PCN within 28 days of issue as it states on the claim form.

5) The Defendant denies that the signs at the location were in compliance with the Claimant's trade association Code of Practice

6) The Defendant has asked the Claimants solicitor for a site map and photographs of the signs. The request has been ignored.

7) The Defendant has the reasonable belief that the Claimant does not have the capacity to take legal action in this matter

8) The Defendant has asked the Claimant's solicitor for the documentary evidence required by its client's Code of Practice Para B (1.1) that demonstrates sufficient right to occupy the land in question. The request has been ignored

9) The Particulars of Claim state that the Defendant !!!8220;was the registered keeper and/or the driver of the vehicle(s)!!!8221;. These assertions indicate that the Claimant has failed to identify a Cause of Action, and is simply offering a menu of choices. As such, the Claim fails to comply with Civil Procedure Rule 16.4, or with Civil Practice Direction 16, paras. 7.3 to 7.5. Further, the particulars of the claim do not meet the requirements of Practice Direction 16 7.5 as there is nothing which specifies how the terms were breached.

10) Due to the sparseness of the particulars, it is unclear as to what legal basis the claim is brought, whether for breach of contract, contractual liability, or trespass. However, it is denied that the Defendant, or any driver of the vehicle, entered into any contractual agreement with the Claimant, whether express, implied, or by conduct.

11). The Claimant is put to strict proof that it has sufficient proprietary interest in the land, or that it has the necessary authorisation from the landowner to issue parking charge notices, and to pursue payment by means of litigation.

12) The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4, at Section 4(5) states that the maximum sum that may be recovered from the keeper is the charge stated on the Notice to Keeper, in this case £100. The claim includes an additional £60, for which no calculation or explanation is given, and which appears to be an attempt at double recovery.

13) In summary, it is the Defendant's position that the claim discloses no cause of action, is without merit, and has no real prospect of success. Accordingly, the Court is invited to strike out the claim of its own initiative, using its case management powers pursuant to CPR 3.4.

I believe the facts contained in this Defence are true.

Name
Signature
Date

Many thanks
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  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
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    Complain to your MP, they are drawing up a new regulations to control these scammers.

    On 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these private parking companies. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, and persistent offenders denied access. Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers.

    Until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

    Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 131,697 Forumite
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    SAR which i have got reply back from and going to post the details over here.
    Please do, so we can see what the PCN is about and where. Seems to be a permit issue but what sort of car park and why did the driver stop there, and was it just for minutes as per the C's photos?

    You obviously need to remove the forum glitches in #9, like this (it's not meant to be there and is not some sort of secret code, it's a posting error):
    !!!8221

    And re the SAR, you cannot yet post links so PLEASE don't reply ''I can't post links''.

    You can if you break the URL like every other newbie does. :)
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  • KeithP
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    dk007 wrote: »
    I received a court claim form for parking in a private space on 15th March 2019.
    But what is the Issue Date on your Claim Form?

    Please can you state when you did the Acknowledgement of Service?
  • dk007
    dk007 Posts: 43 Forumite
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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 131,697 Forumite
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    That looks like a displayed PDT from a machine, so why are they alleging no permit?

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=xfdpc4&s=9#.XLNNiehKjIU

    Surely they are not relying on the angle of the photos making the shaded part of the windscreen look like the PDT isn't fully displayed?

    Desperate trash - unless that PDT is not the right one for that location?

    Or was it expired, if so by how long in minutes?
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  • dk007
    dk007 Posts: 43 Forumite
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    Issue date on claim form is 15th March 2019. Acknowledgement of Service was filed on 21st March 2019.
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 37,641 Forumite
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    dk007 wrote: »
    Issue date on claim form is 15th March 2019. Acknowledgement of Service was filed on 21st March 2019.
    With a Claim Issue Date of 15th March, and having done the Acknowledgement of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Wednesday 17th April 2019 to file your Defence.


    When you are happy with the content, your Defence should be filed via email as suggested here:
      Print your Defence.
    1. Sign it and date it.
    2. Scan the signed document back in and save it as a pdf.
    3. Send that pdf as an email attachment to CCBCAQ@Justice.gov.uk
    4. Just put the claim number and the word Defence in the email title, and in the body of the email something like 'Please find my Defence attached'.
    5. Log into MCOL after a few days to see if the Claim is marked "defence received". If not chase the CCBC until it is.
    6. Do not be surprised to receive an early copy of the Claimant's Directions Questionnaire, they are just trying to keep you under pressure.
    7. Wait for your DQ from the CCBC, or download one from the internet, and then re-read post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread to find out exactly what to do with it.
  • dk007
    dk007 Posts: 43 Forumite
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    Please find attached all images here.

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  • dk007
    dk007 Posts: 43 Forumite
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    Thanks for the reply. This is just one of the images. That PDT was an old PDT, just lying inside. I have now attached all the images and posted here,
    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    That looks like a displayed PDT from a machine, so why are they alleging no permit?



    Surely they are not relying on the angle of the photos mailing the shaded part of the windscreen look like the PDT isn't fully displayed?

    Desperate trash. Tantamount to fraud IMHO to pursue people for this, unless that PDT is not the right one for that location?

    Or was it expired, if so by how long in minutes?
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 131,697 Forumite
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    One of those IMHO cowardly - and not as the legislation intended - postal PCN, (probably a self ticketer who doesn't have the balls to issue PCNs on windscreens) issued after a couple of days and POFA compliant:

    CLAIM FORM:

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2uhy1au&s=9#.XLNyeTBKipo


    Photos of NTK and images from that day:

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=14bj6du&s=9#.XLNyMzBKipo

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=28sopqt&s=9#.XLNyGjBKipo

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=oset5f&s=9#.XLNxQjBKipo

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=xfdpc4&s=9#.XLNxGTBKipo

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=35aurtl&s=9#.XLNw7TBKipo

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ywixa9&s=9#.XLNwrzBKipo

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2i9i39c&s=9#.XLNwajBKipo

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=34od5ps&s=9#.XLNwNzBKipo

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=nv7cd4&s=9#.XLNvwDBKipo

    Euro are carrying the ICO logo on their letters! I think you should report them to the ICO, as it makes out they are accredited in some way by the ICO.

    Don't post asking what the ICO is, like some posters do. Drives us mad.

    The '£60 added contractual costs' & '£50 legal reps fee' on the claim form, do not actually exist but we've covered that on so many threads I rally can't type it out again from scratch. read other threads about Gladstones defences.

    You have not yet answered my questions from earlier; please do.
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