MONEY MORAL DILEMMA. Should Tyrone & Molly serve picky guests out-of-date food?

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  • This is an issue of trust. Whether or not the pies are fit to eat the gusts made it clear they would not like to eat 2 year out of date food. It's like serving meat to vegetarians and telling them it's soya!
  • nee-naw
    nee-naw Posts: 73 Forumite
    My friend lives on his own and doesn't really cook and doesn't socialise. I visited him a few weeks ago, I take sugar, he doesn't. When I was putting sugar into my coffee the bag looked a bit yellow. This weighed on my mind whilst I was drinking the coffee (although to be honest, it tasted fine). I plucked up the courage to ask why the bag was so yellow. It was the sugar he bought for me when he moved into the house 18 years ago.:eek: We're still friends, however, I will be bringing my own sugar on my next visit!!!
  • hob
    hob Posts: 244 Forumite
    i dont think she likes sally very much. give her the pie!!
  • They shouldn't.
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  • shzl400
    shzl400 Posts: 22 Forumite
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    Believe me, I've had things in my freezer that long .....

    They're not "off" as in breeding bacteria, give you food poisoning etc., but they are inedible as they've been sort of "freeze dried". Revolting!

    So, on grounds of taste, more than morals or fear of offending/poisoning guests, no, I would not serve them (OK, maybe with lashings of gravy.....:rotfl:)
  • pineapple
    pineapple Posts: 6,931 Forumite
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    Just picked up the Corrie angle... Well seeing as it is Sally, I suggest hunting out some 4 yr old pies......:rotfl:
  • protector
    protector Posts: 136 Forumite
    Serve away.
    Best Before dates are a con. If someone else wants to buy into it that is their own problem, but if there's nothing wrong with the food there's no reason whatsoever not to serve it.
    Someone argued it would be like serving meat to a vegetarian - it's not even close.

    Serving ROTTEN food would be one thing, serving food that's perfectly fine but after an arbitrary date with no bearing on the food whatsoever is not a moral dilemma.

    "What they don't know won't hurt them."

    It's nothing to do with pregnancy, with "handling it" or being "sensitive"... there's nothing wrong with the food - it's the date on the box that is wrong!

    Why anyone would invite someone around for frozen food (ready-meals) is beyond me... but as for the dilemma - no problem whatsoever. Put it on her plate, she'll eat it and will never know the difference unless she's told. The only ethics in this are the ethics of throwing away good food.
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  • Cloudane
    Cloudane Posts: 524 Forumite
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    A few people are saying "risk". There's actually only a risk if it's past its "USE by" date (and by 2 years is probably quite a risk). "BEST before" is just a subjective recommendation, generally because they want to sell more pies and to reduce complaints if there's a tiny chance the pastry will have softened by 0.01% or something.

    If she knows they're still the same 2 years after she might as well serve it - besides, Sally is an annoying stuck-up cow anyway (wait, I've been watching too much Corrie!)
  • Lovejoy_Peacemaker
    Lovejoy_Peacemaker Posts: 14 Forumite
    edited 15 October 2009 at 2:09PM
    Hi everyone!

    Well let's start with the fact that it is a BEST BEFORE Date and NOT a Use By Date!

    Then nowhere does it say it is meat, so they could be frozen fruit pies, frozen Mississippi Mud pies, frozen banoffee pies etcetera etc

    Then there is the question about how long is frozen food still good?

    Food frozen before the use by date and Kept in a freezer at a minimum of -18 degrees Centigrade/Celsius will definitely still be good 2 years later.

    If kept below -24 C then it could be even longer.

    :AHowever what is more important is how quickly and thoroughly the food is cooked after leaving the freezer:A.

    Leaving the food to thaw for any length of time allows the outer parts of the food to defrost quicker than the middle and begin to decompose almost immediately after it is thawed.

    The only reason that people are warned to let the food defrost completely is in order to prevent people from cooking the outer portions of the food faster and better than the middle portion of the food which may still be frozen when proper cooking is begun.



    if the food is swiftly cooked from frozen and completely thoroughly cooked from the outside to the middle, then anyone can eat it safely with absolutely no need to worry about the Best before date at all and it will even keep a few days longer now that it is completely cooked!

    ** To be quite honest though I think she should call Sally and tell her, then ask if it would be okay.

    If Sally says no then she serves her something else, if she hasn't got anything else or she hasn't got time to
    get anything else then she asks her friend to bring something along for herself and if the shops are all shut
    then Sally has a choice stick to her principles and go without that part of the meal, eat the food or not go!

    Whatever Sally then decides to do at least it is all done out in the open and the final choice of what to do is
    given to Sally the one whose principles Molly is then respecting and accepting as part of Sally being her friend,
    and then Molly doesn't have to worry about anything and she is also being totally respectful of Sally's likes and
    dislikes without having to accept them for herself, which quite truthfully is what true friendship is all about!
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  • tallgirld
    tallgirld Posts: 484 Forumite
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    2 YEARS OUT OF DATE!!! No way should Molly serve that. If she does then she's taking the mick and is also risking making her friends ill. Anyway if she has invited her friends around for dinner I am sure she could make a bit more effort than out of date frozen pie. LOL
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