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    • Snowflakes
    • By Snowflakes 26th Dec 14, 10:35 PM
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    NIE 30,000 Electricity Connection Charge
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    • 26th Dec 14, 10:35 PM
    NIE 30,000 Electricity Connection Charge 26th Dec 14 at 10:35 PM
    Hi there,

    I got a quote from NIE to have the electric connected to a rural site before starting to build.

    The took almost a year and the customer service was the worst I have ever encountered.

    They said on the phone it would be about 15,000 but when I finally got the written quotation in the post before Xmas it for almost 30,000.

    A lot of this is for the extension of an existing 11KV line which involves changing the pole to a 12m stout pole. The quote really does seem astronomical for what is actually involved.

    Contestibility is being introduced to the Electricity market in Northern Ireland in 2015. Does anyone know how this works and if it would make a huge difference to the quote I got?
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    • jjd
    • By jjd 28th Dec 14, 10:01 PM
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    • 28th Dec 14, 10:01 PM
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    • 28th Dec 14, 10:01 PM
    Not answering your question.. That is very expensive! Have you looked into generating your own power & storing in batteries? Large wind generator? Obviously going to be very costly too but the annual maintenance might be lower than electric bills.
    Could be totally wrong, but thought it was worth suggesting.
    • lol omg wtf
    • By lol omg wtf 28th Dec 14, 10:31 PM
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    lol omg wtf
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    • 28th Dec 14, 10:31 PM
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    • 28th Dec 14, 10:31 PM
    I work for a company carrying out just this type of work (contestables for DNO's). I'm more in the field rather than office so prices are not something i could comment on.

    A lucrative solution to your problem would be if you have a sizeable amount of land to put in a solar farm. This would require a pole mounted tx to be placed for the substation aux-supply which im sure with some negotiations would then get you a supply foc. + you would have a income for the next 20years. Probably not a ideal solution and depends on lots of factors.
    There are some big companies out there who will do all of this at no cost to you. I believe they just pay you ground rent and a percentage for power produced.

    Contact a mainland company who do contestable work in the uk and ask how much they would charge?
    • Snowflakes
    • By Snowflakes 29th Dec 14, 8:06 AM
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    • 29th Dec 14, 8:06 AM
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    • 29th Dec 14, 8:06 AM
    Thanks lol omg and jjd.
    We did look at generating our own power but the problem is that we just wouldn't have enough land unfortunately.

    The only solution we have come up with is to wait until the contestables come in (this is meant to be happening in 2015) and see if we can bring the price down by doing a lot of the contestable work ourselves but I was speaking to someone from the ulster farmers union and they don't think contestability will make a huge difference to connection costs.

    There is an existing house quite close to the site and we thought the power could be brought from there but NIE say that it is not possible as wouldn't be strong enough connection to bring to the site.
    So instead the quote they have given is for splitting the line and erecting a new transformer.

    We have tried to complain but NIE keep saying that we will get a 50% refund if someone in the area connects in the next 5 years. However there is no other planning permissions in the area around the site so there is no chance of this happening.

    We are just gutted
  • alexsewell
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    • 29th Dec 14, 6:55 PM
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    • 29th Dec 14, 6:55 PM
    That is crazy, but they have the monopoly at the end of the day.
    it must be very rural where you are building??
    • Snowflakes
    • By Snowflakes 29th Dec 14, 9:34 PM
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    • 29th Dec 14, 9:34 PM
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    • 29th Dec 14, 9:34 PM
    It's turned into a nightmare for us Alexsewell.

    The frustrating part is that it's not that isolated. There's three other houses on the lane and our site is at the end of the lane. The next house to it is about 150 metres away.

    We did query NIE on it and why they couldn't bring the power from the nearby houses but they are a law unto themselves. The work involved isn't that huge to get the electric to the site but they say that is the price and it can't be reduced.
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    • 29th Dec 14, 11:04 PM
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    • 29th Dec 14, 11:04 PM
    well my thoughts would be PV

    if you went down PV at least you would get money back with the RHI payments
    I wouldn't give anyone 30,000 I would invest it and then at least you will get it back
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    • 29th Dec 14, 11:10 PM
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    • 29th Dec 14, 11:10 PM
    http://www.impartialreporter.com/news/roundup/articles/2014/10/25/406895-nie-15000-charge-is-corporate-greed-/

    check this out, same issue

    i wonder how they got on in the end.
    • Snowflakes
    • By Snowflakes 30th Dec 14, 9:59 AM
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    • 30th Dec 14, 9:59 AM
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    • 30th Dec 14, 9:59 AM
    Thanks Alexsewell. Would the pv system run the whole house do you think?
    I saw that article about the couple in similar situation. I'm not sure how they got on but judging by NIE's response in the article I'm guessing the couple probably had to just pay up.
  • alexsewell
    i think you are limited to the amount of kw you can put on a house, but if you are building say a farm like building you could put more on.
    i had guys from solmatix out with me a few months back and they promise good pay backs be worth giving them a ring, there may be a way round it.
    • saverbuyer
    • By saverbuyer 30th Dec 14, 3:01 PM
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    well my thoughts would be PV

    if you went down PV at least you would get money back with the RHI payments
    I wouldn't give anyone 30,000 I would invest it and then at least you will get it back
    Originally posted by alexsewell
    You don't get RHI with PV. Only solar thermal.
    • saverbuyer
    • By saverbuyer 30th Dec 14, 3:09 PM
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    Thanks Alexsewell. Would the pv system run the whole house do you think?
    I saw that article about the couple in similar situation. I'm not sure how they got on but judging by NIE's response in the article I'm guessing the couple probably had to just pay up.
    Originally posted by Snowflakes
    It would need to be some size of a system to run a house off grid on PV and batteries seven days a week. Probably cheaper to pay the 30k to NIE.
    • Snowflakes
    • By Snowflakes 1st Jan 15, 1:07 PM
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    The date for us to pay the deposit to NIE is nearly up. We are just thinking it might be better to hold off until the contestability comes in later this year and see if it makes it any cheaper?
    • fireman-phil
    • By fireman-phil 1st Jan 15, 4:07 PM
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    My mate got a wood boiler put in by Graham of Green Energy Store, Graham was telling him he got a similar quote from NIE so he was going to put in a green system and use batteries for storage. He'd get everything at cost for himself but should be able to tell you what the costs are for going down that route and if it works!
    • Snowflakes
    • By Snowflakes 1st Jan 15, 6:21 PM
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    Thankyou fireman-phil. We'd definitely go for it if it was possible to run a house on it.
    I've asked NIE to look at the price again and even contacted the chief exc but they aren't budging sadly.
  • alexsewell
    hopefully you get good news on this front. give a company solamatix nuts corner a ring. they mite help
  • Cmcv
    Hey just wondering how you go on? Did you end up having to pay 30k.

    I have just bought a site and have been given an estimate of 25-30k.


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    • Mistral001
    • By Mistral001 18th May 15, 1:38 PM
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    Have you thought about just an old-fashioned generator with batteries and an inverter. You probably would get a good secondhand price for if you manage to get a reduction in the mains connection at some time in the future, so the cost in the long run might not be as much as you might think. It would probably cost more to run than mains but it would take quite a few years before you spend more than you would for a connection.
    • Snowflakes
    • By Snowflakes 9th Jun 15, 4:57 PM
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    Only just saw the recent posts. Sadly we didn't get anywhere with NIE and haven't made a start on building. We did look into a generator but it seems that it can be difficult to run a whole household on one so not too sure. Constestability is due to come in around August 2016 but NIE say they can't know for sure if it will in by then and whether it would reduce the price for us.
    Did you accept their quote CMCV?
    • carrickmannon
    • By carrickmannon 19th Jun 16, 1:18 PM
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    In the same boat
    Hi,

    In the same situation awaiting the bill from NI.

    It is so random the way they come up with the qoute. We have two houses up a small lane but like you not sure NIE will let us use the closest transformer.

    Had a neighbour pay 20k+ recently.

    Think we may ask can we do the ground work ourselves. Let's hope common sense prevails.

    Michael
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