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    • MandM90
    • By MandM90 28th Nov 18, 2:34 PM
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    MandM90
    The Prepping Thread - A Newer Beginning ;)
    • #1
    • 28th Nov 18, 2:34 PM
    The Prepping Thread - A Newer Beginning ;) 28th Nov 18 at 2:34 PM
    Thanks to fuddle for helping to keep your lovely thread safe from the spam gremlins by starting a new one. I've unstuck the old one, link below...

    This will be the PREPPING thread inspired by this long running thread

    and the second one which can be found here

    Votes took place here on what this thread is designed primarily for outcome was as follows....

    54% One thread please politics or not - all prep chat welcome
    11.29% Two threads - one Brexit based politics welcome, one general life based, preferred no politics
    19.35% One thread, no politics please, this is OS
    14.52% I don't honestly mind

    So with these differing opinions, please bear this in mind and enjoy the thread Be respectful and enjoy the community. I really hope everyone's happy with the outcome. I tried to be as fair as I could.

    Let's not forget the intermittent prepping thread

    Guidelines

    * All posters are welcome. This thread doesn't "belong" to anyone (not even me )

    * Please be nice to all moneysavers

    * Let's all draw a line in the sand and move on from previous threads and disagreements etc

    * Would love to see new people joining in here and existing posters who have gone quiet for whatever reason

    EVERYONE IS WELCOME

    Enjoy the new thread Ladels and Jellyspoons. I've made this a sticky to ensure it gets a great start and lots of contribution.

    ZIP

    From the previous thread, let's not forget how this started - from vanoonoo

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    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 11th Jan 19, 4:03 PM
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    MrsLurcherwalker
    My fault Mar for having thought that politics were on the Prepping for Brexit thread and that's why I asked my question here. Sorry folks I should have known better!

    We did a top up stock cupboard shop the other day and I couldn't find leaf tea at Morrisons, just the gap where it ought to be but I found 250g leaf tea at the Co-Op today for 1.49 which is a pretty good price so I'll be picking up an extra one each week as it keeps pretty much indefinitely. I suspect we'll be seeing gaps on shelves in the shops more and more often in these next few weeks so I'm going to put as much as I can spare into stores that will keep and future proof us a bit.
    Thumpers mum was right - if you can't find anything nice to say don't say anything at all!
    • jk0
    • By jk0 11th Jan 19, 4:36 PM
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    jk0
    We're arguing about it on Landlordzone too.


    https://forums.landlordzone.co.uk/forum/take-a-break-for-the-less-serious/1043120-brexit
    • Nasqueron
    • By Nasqueron 11th Jan 19, 4:49 PM
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    Nasqueron
    That deal locks us into the EU forever, and is in breach of the UK Constitution.
    Originally posted by Bedsit Bob

    The UK doesn't have a constitution



    We held a non-binding, advisory vote which the government is implementing in whatever way they choose, as is their job as representatives of the people.
    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 11th Jan 19, 4:51 PM
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    MrsLurcherwalker
    Brexit thread if you want politics THIS ONE is about PREPPING FOR DISASTERS!!!

    I have deleted my post that had the original question in it, I can only apologise to all regular preppers for having stirred the hornets nest and let them in here to be irritating, many apologies to you all.
    Last edited by MrsLurcherwalker; 11-01-2019 at 4:55 PM.
    Thumpers mum was right - if you can't find anything nice to say don't say anything at all!
    • Bedsit Bob
    • By Bedsit Bob 11th Jan 19, 9:17 PM
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    Bedsit Bob
    It was only ever an advisory referendum.
    Originally posted by Goldiegirl
    Really?

    From the leaflet entitled "Why the Government believes that voting to remain in the European Union is the best decision for the UK."

    This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide.
    Your quote confirmed what I said - Unilateral withdrawal of Article 50 is permitted.
    Did you miss the bit I highlighted?

    provided that the revocation has been decided upon in accordance with the Member State’s constitutional requirements.
    Last edited by Bedsit Bob; 11-01-2019 at 9:28 PM.
    1984 WAS NOT AN INSTRUCTION MANUAL.

    Amount I have so far denied the BBC - 1308

    You can't be a Christian AND a Socialist.
    • Bedsit Bob
    • By Bedsit Bob 11th Jan 19, 9:27 PM
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    Bedsit Bob
    The UK doesn't have a constitution
    Originally posted by Nasqueron
    Yes it does.

    https://www.bl.uk/magna-carta/articles/britains-unwritten-constitution

    We held a non-binding, advisory vote
    No we didn't.

    As above:-

    From the leaflet entitled "Why the Government believes that voting to remain in the European Union is the best decision for the UK."

    This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide.
    1984 WAS NOT AN INSTRUCTION MANUAL.

    Amount I have so far denied the BBC - 1308

    You can't be a Christian AND a Socialist.
    • Goldiegirl
    • By Goldiegirl 11th Jan 19, 10:00 PM
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    Goldiegirl
    Really?

    From the leaflet entitled "Why the Government believes that voting to remain in the European Union is the best decision for the UK.

    Originally posted by Bedsit Bob
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Referendum_Act_2015

    This link confirms that the referendum was consultative.

    Did you miss the bit I highlighted?
    No
    Early retired - 18th December 2014
    If your dreams don't scare you, they're not big enough
    • fuddle
    • By fuddle 11th Jan 19, 10:22 PM
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    fuddle
    Wikipedia as a resource? I never expected to see such a thing on the prepping thread.
    Be like a tree.
    Stay grounded. Connect with your roots. Turn over a new leaf.
    Bend before you break. Enjoy your natural beauty. Keep growing.
    • maryb
    • By maryb 12th Jan 19, 6:19 AM
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    maryb
    Bob, I think it was I who talked about having a powerbank after my daughter was caught up in the periphery of the London Bridge attack with hardly any charge left on her phone. That device looks good, thanks - I’ll check it out. Though knowing her, it’ll be up to me to make sure it stays charged. But that’s what mums are for
    It doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!
    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 12th Jan 19, 8:58 AM
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    I was watching some TV program about huge structures abandoned - and one of several was the city beside the Chernobyl reactor, Pripyat.
    It was a complete New Town, so everything was laid out with loads of elbow room & planned for & well mapped, which helped get 50 thousand people out, on coaches, in one pass.
    They were told they were only going for a few days. (Let's be a little more detailed, people were falling ill within *hours* of the big explosion but as it was so new, all the infrastructure was under 20 years old.)

    If someone said "leave your home, take all family & pets, but it's only for a few days" - what would you leave behind? Other than the garden, the shed, the pantry, any vehicles - what do you take 'to make sure of' when away from your own place for a few days?

    I'm beginning to think my EDC data should not just include evidence of ID but the things that anchor me in my space & time, family photos, the family tree, medical reminders (like the three of us on life meds need X of A, V of B & M of C through the day, child 3 will need a measles booster (or whatever) in 2021, last saw dentist valentines day) as well as the usual admin lists & logisitics.

    I can't carry a portrait of a long dead relative, I can carry a ophoto. I wouldn't deam of dragging sons exam certificates for a few days but I should carry the photos. I'll porbbaly have passport & driving licence & must remind the lads to carry theirs, but again I should have their birth certificates & recent bank statement photos. (As if mum doesn't, will a teenage lad think to?!)

    (And then I stop and think, if this lands in the wrong hands, hello ID theft galore but if scared & being relocated, I think I'd want to know this data was held & safe.)

    ETA we’ve not got any friends, family, etc in Bavaria & south Germany at the mo? Awful lot of snow fallen...
    Last edited by DigForVictory; 12-01-2019 at 9:22 AM. Reason: International met/where are you all update?!
    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 12th Jan 19, 12:35 PM
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    mardatha
    If you are in a situation where you have to run for your life - think major fire near a gas main or plane crashing on Lockerbie or huge conflagration in an inner city - then you need to have a BOB ready to grab and just go.
    If it's full of stuff then you will either get stuck in a stairwell, fall over and be trampled, or get knackered fast and end up emptying it in the street if not abandoning it altogether. Think of the pics of French refugees in WW2, carrying mattresses and grandfather clocks etc.. Not going to work!
    Think minimalist and think of it all as just "stuff" - you can start again always
    • Bedsit Bob
    • By Bedsit Bob 12th Jan 19, 1:25 PM
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    Bedsit Bob
    If someone said "leave your home, take all family & pets, but it's only for a few days" - what would you leave behind? ...

    ... what do you take 'to make sure of' when away from your own place for a few days?
    Originally posted by DigForVictory
    I have a BOB and a Hospital Grab Bag (which, of course, doubles as a "night away" bag), which pretty much covers most situations.
    1984 WAS NOT AN INSTRUCTION MANUAL.

    Amount I have so far denied the BBC - 1308

    You can't be a Christian AND a Socialist.
    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 12th Jan 19, 4:35 PM
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    Karmacat
    Personally, I don't really care about original photos - I *like* them, but I don't care about them, as long as I've got really good quality scans. I appreciate I'm in a minority in that, and I do feel odd about it because I'm a family historian, after all, I feel like I *should* care, more than I do.



    Anyway, I also have scans of all documents, which yes, includes exam results and share certificates. I back everything up to an external hard disc, which is in a little portable fireproof safe, and the most important folders on my computer - preparedness, photos, family history and finances, are all also backed up onto a flash drive, which is in my BOB. The stuff that isn't confidential is also backed up onto a google account.
    Downsized and paid off mortgage 2010
    Retired August 2016
    Paid off French mortgage September 2018
    • Bedsit Bob
    • By Bedsit Bob 12th Jan 19, 7:55 PM
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    Bedsit Bob
    Blowing a gale here.
    1984 WAS NOT AN INSTRUCTION MANUAL.

    Amount I have so far denied the BBC - 1308

    You can't be a Christian AND a Socialist.
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 12th Jan 19, 8:25 PM
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    GreyQueen
    Blowing a gale here.
    Originally posted by Bedsit Bob
    If I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times; you shouldn't eat so many onions.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • Bedsit Bob
    • By Bedsit Bob 12th Jan 19, 8:57 PM
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    Bedsit Bob
    Actually GQ, I think it's all those tins of beans.
    1984 WAS NOT AN INSTRUCTION MANUAL.

    Amount I have so far denied the BBC - 1308

    You can't be a Christian AND a Socialist.
    • silverwhistle
    • By silverwhistle 12th Jan 19, 10:25 PM
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    Brexit thread if you want politics THIS ONE is about PREPPING FOR DISASTERS!!!
    Originally posted by MrsLurcherwalker

    Yes, I'd say Brexit qualifies as a disaster.


    On the important subject of tea I notice that Waitrose now have loose leaf Darjeeling back in stock - they didn't have any for months and I had to resort to buying a kilo online from Taylors of Harrogate..


    End of the month we're off skiing for a couple of weeks in my GFs van. and staying for free in a friend's flat (I'm not that well off!). I'm wondering how to use all the extra space in the van and what to bring back. Wine,(Verdicchio at Lidl for 1.49 this week!), cheese, large bags of Carnaroli rice, olive oil from the producer (on the last bottle from last year). Any other suggestions?


    Incidentally, yesterday had a delivery of 4 wheels/snow tyres for the van which came swiftly from a warehouse in Germany. I was chatting with the driver and joked about the possible use of the local M3 as a lorry park for Portsmouth ferry port. He laughed about the whole shambles and said "If we were voting now with what we know now.."
    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 12th Jan 19, 10:50 PM
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    DigForVictory
    Miword yes, if you do not have your winter tyres on yet, now might be a good time. They really do help in the wet & With Stopping.

    That said, knowing how to change a wheel is a dashed handy skill. The extending tyre iron helps wonderfully with the leverage but it just takes stubbornness to crank the little jack each time...
    • Bedsit Bob
    • By Bedsit Bob 13th Jan 19, 12:19 AM
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    Bedsit Bob
    I think you mean Wheel Brace, rather than a Tyre Iron, DFV.

    I can't imagine you would actually put a fresh tyre on a wheel, at the side of the road.
    1984 WAS NOT AN INSTRUCTION MANUAL.

    Amount I have so far denied the BBC - 1308

    You can't be a Christian AND a Socialist.
    • tastyhog
    • By tastyhog 13th Jan 19, 12:55 AM
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    tastyhog
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Referendum_Act_2015

    This link confirms that the referendum was consultative.


    No
    Originally posted by Goldiegirl
    And they took this "advisory" result and made it in to law, gave us a leave date and everything.

    So it's advisory in the sense that they implemented the result
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