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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 9th Jun 15, 7:25 AM
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    Green, ethical, energy issues in the news (last 2 weeks)
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    Green, ethical, energy issues in the news (last 2 weeks) 9th Jun 15 at 7:25 AM
    MSE Insert:

    We've seen some debate on this thread about the relevance of some posts to the topic.

    To ensure the thread remains on topic for forumites wanting to discuss the latest news we're asking that all posts contain a link to the news you're discussing.

    For the purposes of this thread the "news" needs to be within the last two weeks.

    Back to Martyn1981's original post.

    ---

    I thought it might be a good idea to have a thread for posting general news items that may be of interest.

    PV and the 'Solar in the news' thread attract a lot of interest, so here's a thread for all the other goings on.

    Mart.
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    • GreatApe
    • By GreatApe 6th Dec 19, 10:33 PM
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    Perhaps a great argument for increasing support for BEV's, as any front loaded subsidies might pay for themselves in reduced load on the NHS?
    Originally posted by Martyn1981
    Option A: Give a model X buyer upto £40k tax break to improve the public's health
    Option B: Hire one additional Jr Doctor or a SNR Nurse to improve waiting times and treatment
    Which option does the Tesla share holder push?

    In fact it's more like hiring 1 doctor and one nurse as a doctor's wages are mostly spent in the UK adding to UK jobs and taxes

    All BEV grants should be scrapped fully and totally asap
    If we need more heath outcome increase NHS spending
    If we need lower CO2 build an additional interconntor or wind farm or spend the £40k on upgrading 10 council homes
    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 7th Dec 19, 12:44 PM
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    Fun idea app:

    Cranky Uncle game takes on climate crisis denial and fake news

    A new game promises to act as a “vaccination” against climate crisis denial and fake news by teaching users about misinformation tactics.

    The Cranky Uncle app explains common science denial techniques, such as the use of fake experts, logical fallacies, impossible expectations and cherry-picking data, equipping users with the skills needed to spot inaccuracies in the real world and online.

    The app is based on inoculation theory, the idea that people can be protected against influence by exposure to weakened forms of a threat – in this case, climate crisis denial.
    Perhaps a fun and easier way to deal with deniers on here if they pop up again in the future.

    [Note - I'm assuming GA is no longer spouting AGW denial, and air pollution health impact denials, as that would be a very rude thing to do on a green and ethical board, especially when there is now a thread specifically set up for people with 'alternative' views on the subject. I'm going to assume that his continued posting after being politely asked to respect the premise of this thread/board, reflects a change in his views/attitude. ]
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 8th Dec 19, 7:45 AM
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    Step by step by step:

    First US steel plants powered by wind, solar energy are coming for industry with big carbon footprint

    The steel industry has a massive carbon footprint, as much as 6% to 7% of the world’s greenhouse gas emissions, according to a Rocky Mountain Institute study. A new Nucor steel microplant in Missouri is trying to put a dent in that number.

    Nucor’s micromill in Sedalia, Missouri, is set to be the first U.S. steel plant to run on wind energy, according to Evergy. The $250 million plant, which is expected to open by the end of the year, is a partnership between the steel company and local utility Evergy, which will power the plant after a 75 megawatt power purchase agreement between the companies.

    With sustainability goals becoming increasingly important to companies, plants like this one could be built more frequently, and Evergy senior vice president Chuck Caisley says that the Midwest is in a prime position for more projects like the Nucor plant.

    We sit in the Saudi Arabia of wind,” Caisley said. “I think that increasingly there will be sustainability requirements companies will want to meet. In Kansas and midwest Missouri we have great wind to meet current and prospective customers with price competitiveness and sustainability. It reduces our environmental footprint in the area and creates jobs.”
    My bold - Oi! Back off, we've already claimed that title for UK off-shore wind.
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 8th Dec 19, 3:51 PM
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    Just a quick post on the election (again) and the great news that the climate crisis seems to have taken the top spot(ish). Though I doubt it'll get anything like the political interest after the election.

    I also saw a breakdown of the parties targets on the BBC news, and the presenter said something striking (though I'll now spoil it by mis-remembering) but roughly that after 30yrs of covering environmental issues the climate crisis appears to have finally got the attention it deserves, but will it get the policies it needs.

    Which party has the answer to the big green questions?

    Putting a tax on meat, ending the sale of petrol and diesel cars within a decade and upgrading the energy efficiency of every home in the UK are among the eye-catching green promises from the political parties fighting for voters’ backing in the general election.

    Others include zero-emission railways and a £640m Nature for Climate fund to restore the natural world and help fight the climate emergency. These pledges are in the answers given to a series of questions put to the main parties by the Guardian to draw them out on specific key issues.
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    • Cardew
    • By Cardew 8th Dec 19, 10:31 PM
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    Perhaps a fun and easier way to deal with deniers on here if they pop up again in the future.

    [Note - I'm assuming GA is no longer spouting AGW denial, and air pollution health impact denials, as that would be a very rude thing to do on a green and ethical board, especially when there is now a thread specifically set up for people with 'alternative' views on the subject. I'm going to assume that his continued posting after being politely asked to respect the premise of this thread/board, reflects a change in his views/attitude. ]
    Originally posted by Martyn1981
    The 'alternative' thread is not for 'deniers'. The opening post by JKenH states:

    In an attempt to maintain harmony on Martyn1981’s Green, Ethical, Energy issues in the news thread, Mart and I have agreed that I will no longer contribute to that thread but instead start a separate thread which Mart has agreed not to participate on.

    The intention of the thread is that green energy issues can be discussed in an open and less prescriptive manner. While most people will continue to use the original thread you are free to post on here on any green energy topic including electric cars.

    To avoid some of the acrimony that has arisen on the original thread could I request please that contributors endeavour to be courteous in their posts and their language and avoid pejorative comments. If you want to be rude and use bad language please post elsewhere. Thank you.
    Put simply it is an attempt to have a thread free from Marty's contributions.

    There is nothing rude about people expressing their views on AGW, RE or Air pollution in any thread on this Board; or indeed any subject that does not meet with Martyn's approval.

    Indeed the 'premise of this board/thread' is not determined by Martyn - the board was opened a couple of years before Martyn joined MSE.
    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 9th Dec 19, 7:18 AM
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    The 'alternative' thread is not for 'deniers'. The opening post by JKenH states:



    Put simply it is an attempt to have a thread free from Marty's contributions.

    There is nothing rude about people expressing their views on AGW, RE or Air pollution in any thread on this Board; or indeed any subject that does not meet with Martyn's approval.

    Indeed the 'premise of this board/thread' is not determined by Martyn - the board was opened a couple of years before Martyn joined MSE.
    Originally posted by Cardew
    Given that this is a green and ethical thread/board, then I would say it is extremely rude for folk to try to disrupt it constantly with science denial. Given the seriousness of the climate crisis, it would again seem rude to disrupt it with constant criticism of spending on green and ethical energy that will help to mitigate the worst of the problem, by exaggerating spending/costs and suggesting monies are spent on adaptation instead.

    Attacks on RE with science denial is neither green nor ethical, so anyone (especially GA) posting such comments on here would appear to be solely for the purpose of disruption. There are other boards, such as energy where such comments could go, and possibly might be appreciated by those who remain in denial.

    I hope this helps clarify the position. There is no need for you to start causing arguments all over again.
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 9th Dec 19, 7:26 AM
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    Interesting cost impact breakdown for New York if they apply a carbon cost to thermal generation. It's worth a scan as it suggests that leccy prices would rise by ~$2/MWh at the start, but as RE and storage replace FF's, it would shift to a cost reduction of ~$2/MWh:

    Alliance For Clean Energy New York Pushes For Carbon Fee On Thermal Generating Stations

    The state of New York has one of the more aggressive renewable energy standards in America. It calls for the state to obtain 70% of its electricity from wind, solar and other renewable sources by 2030. But the Alliance for Clean Energy New York says in a new report the state is unlikely to meet that goal without imposing a fee on carbon emissions created by thermal generating stations.
    The group is absolutely correct. It is just plain nuts to allow industry to pollute the environment and pay nothing to clean up their mess. It’s like having the local septic pumping system back its trucks up and empty them in the town square. We have been following this distorted model for so long, it seems normal to most people but it is far from normal. It is hazardous to human health and destructive of the Earth’s ability to support life. How could such a dangerously flawed system be allowed to continue?
    The pricing signals resulting from a carbon fee would make thermal generation more expensive, giving an economic boost to renewables. That, ACE NY argues, would benefit New York’s energy storage goals by attracting more investors to that technology. Energy storage will become more valuable for its ability to capture renewable energy during times when it is abundant and inexpensive and provide it back to the grid when demand — and therefore prices — are higher. Energy storage means high cost thermal plants will be powered up less frequently, which also means less carbon pollution overall from the electricity generating sector.

    An analysis by the Brattle Group in November, 2018 found that factoring in a carbon fee would raise utility rates slightly during the first 3 years but then result in lower rates in the following 10 years. Note that these calculations do not include any economic benefits that accrue from lowering the amount of carbon pollution in the atmosphere.
    [My bold. M.]
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 9th Dec 19, 7:32 AM
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    Important article, but not a pleasant read as progress is still struggling to address the problem:

    UN climate talks failing to address urgency of crisis, says top scientist

    Urgent UN talks on tackling the climate emergency are still not addressing the true scale of the crisis, one of the world’s leading climate scientists has warned, as high-ranking ministers from governments around the world began to arrive in Madrid for the final days of negotiations.

    Talks are focusing on some of the rules for implementing the 2015 Paris agreement, but the overriding issue of how fast the world needs to cut greenhouse gas emissions has received little official attention.

    “We are at risk of getting so bogged down in incremental technicalities at these negotiations that we forget to see the forest for the trees,” said Johan Rockström, joint director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research. “There is a risk of disappointment in the UN process because of the inability to recognise that there is an emergency.”
    The stately pace of negotiations was in stark contrast with the scenes outside the conference in Madrid, where on Friday evening more than 500,000 people marched through the Spanish capital led by the Swedish school striker Greta Thunberg. Protests continued through the weekend, with Extinction Rebellion and groups from across the world. On Monday, Thunberg and other youth activists will hold meetings with officials inside the conference.
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 9th Dec 19, 7:35 AM
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    Cheaper leccy in Aus thanks to wind:

    Windfarms drive fall in wholesale energy price with lower bills forecast for 2020

    The price of residential electricity is estimated to start falling next year and continue to fall until 2022, the Australian Energy Market Commission says.

    The AEMC’s annual report on electricity price trends shows an overall falling price outlook over the next few years, mostly due to decreases in the wholesale cost from increased generation capacity, particularly from windfarms.

    By the end of 2022, almost all Australians are expected to spend an average $97 less on their annual power bills after prices start falling in 2020, the Australian Energy Market Commission says.
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 9th Dec 19, 7:51 AM
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    Some (quite a lot actually) extracts from this week's Carbon Commentary newsletter:

    3, Liquid air energy storage. The UK’s Highview is the pioneer in using the properties of liquid air for storage. When power is cheap, air is chilled until it is liquid. When needed, the air is warmed and turned back to gas. The massive expansion drives a turbine that generates electricity. Highview announced what will be the largest ‘battery’ in Europe, a 50MW/250 MWh unit on an unspecified site of former power station in the north of England. I’ve previously written that the high capital costs of liquid air storage and its lowish round trip efficiency make it an implausible competitor to lithium ion. But Highview claims that at this scale the technology is easily competitive to batteries and that efficiency is unimportant if the spare electricity is extremely cheap. (Thanks to Brian Tyler).

    5, Climate change impacts in rich countries. A study sponsored by giant insurer Munich Re suggested that Germany was the country the 3rd most affected by climate change in 2018. Consistently high summer temperatures and severe drought increased human mortality and caused substantial crop losses. France and Germany were both placed in the top 20 most affected countries in the period 1999-2019. Climate change is not just affecting low latitude countries.

    7, Electrolyser manufacture. Belgian industrial company John Cockerill announced a partnership with Jingli in China that will operate a factory for making electrolysers that will generate hydrogen from electricity. It promises the capacity to make 500 MW a year. This is a truly surprising number; the IEA estimates that only 20 MW was installed worldwide last year. Manufacturing scale is vital to electrolyser economics so it seems more than possible that China will dominate this industry much as it has dominated solar panel manufacture.

    8, Trends in car charging. EV charging points have often been installed in single units on sites connected to the motor industry, such as petrol filling stations. This is rapidly changing as it becomes more obvious that drivers need locations with multiple chargers and things to do while the car is being recharged. Centrica, the largest UK utility, said it would build ‘charge-parks’ which will enable professional drivers, such as taxi owners, to conveniently recharge in large car parks. UK supermarket owner Tesco promised this week that it will offer free charging - but only at a slow 7 kilowatt - at 600 of its stores. It will install an average of four chargers per site. Its retail competitor Morrisons said it would have 100 much faster chargers in place by the end of 2019, up from zero at the beginning of the year.

    9, More on car charging. Engie publicised its contract to install a large wind farm to supply the port of Zeebrugge. One of the uses for the electricity will be to power Engie’s car charging park with 308 connections, the largest in Belgium. The charging points will be partly be used to power up EVs that have just been shipped into the port, including the new Tesla. VW announced that it would cooperate with Centrica to install charging at some of its busiest dealerships. Importantly, these chargers will automatically adjust their rate of charge depending on the level of stress in the wider electricity system. My bet is that varying the rate of car charging – and discharging to the grid when necessary – will become the principal means of stabilising the electricity network.

    10, Solar panel degradation. I looked at how the electricity production from the solar panels on the roof of our home had changed in the fifteen years since they were installed. A trendline shows a very slow fall in generation (0.05% per year). But data from the local climate data collection site - the longest time series in the world – suggests a strong though irregular rise in sunshine. This phenomenon has disguised any underlying degradation in solar panel performance. More detailed analysis shows after adjusting the figures to account for the rise in sunshine hours, the fall in solar panel performance would still be less than 0.2% per year, a lower figure than almost all estimates. This is important because relatively small changes in the rate of fall in panel productivity have significant impact on the cash flows from PV.
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 9th Dec 19, 11:20 AM
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    Some info on the shipping industry and emissions.

    European shipping emissions in way of nations meeting Paris climate targets

    Greenhouse gas emissions from shipping equal the carbon footprint of a quarter of passenger cars in Europe and stand in the way of countries meeting the Paris agreement, new analysis reveals.

    Despite the scale of shipping emissions from both container and cruise ships in Europe, they are not part of European emissions reduction targets.

    In France, Germany, UK, Spain, Sweden and Finland shipping emissions in 2018 were larger than the emissions from all the passenger cars registered in 10 or more of the largest cities in each country, according to the report published on Monday from Transport and Environment, a Brussels-based NGO.
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    • Cardew
    • By Cardew 9th Dec 19, 11:51 AM
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    Given that this is a green and ethical thread/board, then I would say it is extremely rude for folk to try to disrupt it constantly with science denial. Given the seriousness of the climate crisis, it would again seem rude to disrupt it with constant criticism of spending on green and ethical energy that will help to mitigate the worst of the problem, by exaggerating spending/costs and suggesting monies are spent on adaptation instead.

    Attacks on RE with science denial is neither green nor ethical, so anyone (especially GA) posting such comments on here would appear to be solely for the purpose of disruption. There are other boards, such as energy where such comments could go, and possibly might be appreciated by those who remain in denial.

    I hope this helps clarify the position. There is no need for you to start causing arguments all over again.
    Originally posted by Martyn1981
    You really don't understand, do you?

    It is not rude for people, on THIS internet forum, to express views with which YOU disagree. That it becomes disruptive is solely because you cannot tolerate any position other than a glorification of all things RE.

    To keep matters within the decreed 2 week restriction on this thread, this article by the dreaded Nigel Farage states that the 'green taxes will hit the poor and make the rich richer'

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1207979/nigel-farage-general-election-2019-brexit-party-brexit-news-green-tax-environment-china

    Those contributing to this forum over the years will note that Farage appears to be quoting from articles by the Guardian's highly respected George Monbiot.
    • ABrass
    • By ABrass 9th Dec 19, 2:34 PM
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    To keep matters within the decreed 2 week restriction on this thread, this article by the dreaded Nigel Farage states that the 'green taxes will hit the poor and make the rich richer'

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1207979/nigel-farage-general-election-2019-brexit-party-brexit-news-green-tax-environment-china

    Those contributing to this forum over the years will note that Farage appears to be quoting from articles by the Guardian's highly respected George Monbiot.
    Originally posted by Cardew
    To a point he's right. Like VAT adding a carbon cost to petrol, gas etc will mostly hit lower earners. As you say, it's been a known issue for a long time no

    On the other hand other proposed taxes like those on frequent fliers will not. Taxes designed to deliberately hit higher earners more aren't that unheard of, nor would just funding decarbonisation through general taxation cause the effect he fears.
    • Cardew
    • By Cardew 9th Dec 19, 7:38 PM
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    To a point he's right. Like VAT adding a carbon cost to petrol, gas etc will mostly hit lower earners. As you say, it's been a known issue for a long time no

    On the other hand other proposed taxes like those on frequent fliers will not. Taxes designed to deliberately hit higher earners more aren't that unheard of, nor would just funding decarbonisation through general taxation cause the effect he fears.
    Originally posted by ABrass

    Yes I agree he is right on that point.



    I believe that the point he was making on the £130 is that the Feed in Tariff(FIT) is funded by a levy on all electricity consumers, and not by taxation.
    • silverwhistle
    • By silverwhistle 10th Dec 19, 12:00 AM
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    I believe that the point he was making on the £130 is that the Feed in Tariff(FIT) is funded by a levy on all electricity consumers, and not by taxation.
    Originally posted by Cardew

    Ah, I see the bees are still healthily breeding in your bonnet.


    As observed years ago, it's the only time I've ever noted your concern for the less well off, and as I also observed there are means of compensating, as in so many other areas of taxation and assistance.
    • ABrass
    • By ABrass 10th Dec 19, 12:25 AM
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    FIT ended, why anyone is still wasting time discussing it, other than as a model for the future escapes me.

    Also, definitely not news
    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 10th Dec 19, 6:59 AM
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    You really don't understand, do you?

    It is not rude for people, on THIS internet forum, to express views with which YOU disagree. That it becomes disruptive is solely because you cannot tolerate any position other than a glorification of all things RE.
    Originally posted by Cardew
    I do understand thank you. And actually it's my understanding and acceptance of the facts that's leads to me to state that it is very rude to post AGW and air pollution denial arguments on this thread/forum.

    It is not that they are expressing views that I disagree with, it is that they are expressing denial. Their views are false and the use of these false claims and arguments have over the last many decades held the World back, and massively worsened the problem.

    The issue of AGW and the climate crisis is simply too important to waste time on lies (that is what science denial is), and I'm sure you'll understand why it is so rude to try to disrupt/spoil discussions with pointless arguments to try to spread these fully debunked and science denying lies.

    Your long standing issue with PV/FiTs, and the reason you used to welcome all potential new PV'ers by telling them the whole scheme was immoral, was because the monies went to households and councils (social housing) whereas all the other subsidy schemes only went to the large companies, or in the case of your beloved new nuclear, the French and Chinese Governments. Effectively you only targeted the fairest scheme (or you might prefer least unfair) via a spin argument.

    Several years ago you proudly described yourself as the boogeyman of the G&E board. It would be a great shame if you started that all up again just to spoil/disrupt threads with science denial, or the pointless defence of science denial based posts.

    Please don't start your old games again. Thanks.
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 10th Dec 19, 7:20 AM
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    FIT ended, why anyone is still wasting time discussing it, other than as a model for the future escapes me.

    Also, definitely not news
    Originally posted by ABrass
    Yep, but shoehorning a point in, based on current news (the general election and the raised profile of the climate crisis (funny to note that a climate crisis needs to be raised in public conscience)), a good move going forward might be to shift the funding from energy bills to general taxation, as a way of removing this concern.

    I can certainly see how the green levy on our bills is appropriate, since it 'taxes' people directly on the amount of consumption and therefore pollution they are responsible for, and of course, it should impact near enough 100% of the population/households and businesses. But a shift to general taxation would aid public perceptions.

    Going forward, of course, there should be very little new subsidy needed for RE as costs have fallen so far, and so fast. Obviously, new nuclear (~2028+) will add considerable costs to all bills, and some of the off-shore wind coming on line will also be adding to the cost, but hopefully we are nearing the end of the growth in annual costs. Which is pretty nice.

    Actually, before 2028 we will start to see some RE subsidies reaching the end of their subsidy terms, and whilst still generating, won't be receiving subsidies, and FiT deals will start to end in the early 2030's too, with the most expensive dropping off 2035-2037. Which is also pretty nice.
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 10th Dec 19, 8:22 AM
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    Scotland just won't stop with all this RE nonsense! Gotta love em.

    SSEN submits Scots grid masterplan

    SSEN Transmission has today submitted a business plan to the UK energy regulator Ofgem for the future of the north of Scotland electricity network that aims to facilitate growth in renewable energy.

    The ‘A Network for Net Zero’ plan covers the period from April 2021 to March 2026 and follows consultation with national and local stakeholders as well as SSEN Transmission's independent expert RIIO-T2 User Group.

    It aims to support both the UK and Scottish Governments' net zero emissions targets and meet the needs and expectations expressed by stakeholders through five goals.
    They are to transport renewable electricity that powers 10 million homes, have 100% transmission reliability for homes and businesses, ensure every connection is delivered on time, reduce greenhouse gas emissions by one-third and have £100m in efficiency savings from innovation.
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    • Martyn1981
    • By Martyn1981 10th Dec 19, 8:28 AM
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    OK, no idea how this article will be received. It's Drax (Boo), but it's RE (cheer), but it's bio-mass burning (Boo), but it's renewable bio-mass (cheer), but it's shipping fuel around the World, like what we was doing with coal (Boo), but it's reliable and has some demand following capability (cheer), but it's CCS (Boo), but it's BECCS (cheer).

    Have fun:

    Drax owner plans to be world's first carbon-negative business

    An energy company once labelled western Europe’s biggest polluter is planning to become the world’s first carbon-negative business within 10 years.

    The owner of the Drax power plant, once a coal-fired behemoth, is the first company in the world to set out plans to absorb more carbon emissions from the air than it creates by 2030.

    The bold ambition will build on its work to transform the Drax plant in North Yorkshire from one of the dirtiest power stations to a renewable energy giant and a pioneer of carbon capture.

    For decades the UK’s largest single power plant pumped millions of tonnes of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere by burning coal to make electricity. In recent years Drax has converted its huge coal generation units to run on renewable biomass, or wood pellets.
    “Drax’s ambition is to be carbon negative by 2030. Having pioneered the use of sustainable biomass, Drax now produces 12% of the UK’s renewable electricity. With the right negative emissions policy we can do much more, removing millions of tonnes of emissions from the atmosphere each year,” he said.

    “The UK government is working on a policy and investment framework to encourage negative emissions technologies, which will enable the UK to be home to the world’s first carbon negative company,” Gardiner added.

    Drax’s carbon accounting is based on emissions-saving calculations at the beginning and end of a BECCs process. It claims the project’s lifecycle would remove more carbon emissions than it produces, meaning it would effectively create a carbon-negative energy source.

    The first carbon saving is recorded when the trees that are farmed to make biomass pellets absorb carbon emissions from the air as they grow. The second takes place at the power plant site as carbon-capture technology traps the emissions created by burning the wood.
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