Teeth straightening and dental implants

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  • GlasweJen
    GlasweJen Posts: 7,451 Forumite
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    I went for an Invisalign consultation for what I thought was a fairly mild case of wanting a couple of twisted teeth straightened. Ended up with 6 teeth removed and two years in train tracks, the orthodontist wanted to do jaw surgery but for me that was a step too far. Invisalign can only really correct the smallest of deviations and rarely costs the price you see on the Internet.
  • Toothsmith wrote: »
    I think before you have anything done you should talk to whoever is doing it about everything that you might want doing.

    This should be done as an entire joined-up plan, not have little bits & pieces tacked on as you go along.

    My guess is that Invisalign isn't the best, quickest, most stable or cheapest way to get the tooth movements you described earlier done. But, I don't know as I can't see you and neither am I an orthodontist.

    Thanks. I have made a few enquiries and one dentist/orthodontist nearby has offered a free consultation. I am concerned that it will cost more than I can afford, so probably will need to check this before it even looks like a proposition.
  • GlasweJen wrote: »
    I went for an Invisalign consultation for what I thought was a fairly mild case of wanting a couple of twisted teeth straightened. Ended up with 6 teeth removed and two years in train tracks, the orthodontist wanted to do jaw surgery but for me that was a step too far. Invisalign can only really correct the smallest of deviations and rarely costs the price you see on the Internet.

    All of that must have cost a fortune?
  • GlasweJen
    GlasweJen Posts: 7,451 Forumite
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    All of that must have cost a fortune?

    I opted to have a fancy system where the front braces were hidden at the back of my front teeth so it was a bit more expensive but it was £2250 all in. I could pay in chunks though. The surgery would have been covered by the nhs as it was necessary to give me a normal bite (I couldn't bite through a sandwich, can now but need to wiggle it a bit to achieve it breaking apart). Had I went with the surgery and normal train tracks it would have been free as there is a scale where they determine if braces are medically necessary or just cosmetic and mine were necessary but you need to go down the nhs recommended route and can't use your own route for that. The nhs don't use Invisalign or the other fancy braces. Also for nhs you need to have excellent gum health so if your dentist says your gums aren't up to scratch the orthodontist can refuse the referral until your gums are better and stay within their necessary limit for I think it's a year
  • GlasweJen wrote: »
    I opted to have a fancy system where the front braces were hidden at the back of my front teeth so it was a bit more expensive but it was £2250 all in. I could pay in chunks though. The surgery would have been covered by the nhs as it was necessary to give me a normal bite (I couldn't bite through a sandwich, can now but need to wiggle it a bit to achieve it breaking apart). Had I went with the surgery and normal train tracks it would have been free as there is a scale where they determine if braces are medically necessary or just cosmetic and mine were necessary but you need to go down the nhs recommended route and can't use your own route for that. The nhs don't use Invisalign or the other fancy braces. Also for nhs you need to have excellent gum health so if your dentist says your gums aren't up to scratch the orthodontist can refuse the referral until your gums are better and stay within their necessary limit for I think it's a year

    I see, I suppose that isn't too bad considering the extent of your problem.
  • This is what a local orthodontist/dentist has said to me:

    "It sounds like Invisalign would be ideal to sort out your space with a view to having an implant.

    I7 is limited to 7 sets of aligners and if this is adequate to correct your spacing then all well and good. Cost is £1750 and includes a retainer at the end.

    If this is not enough correction then the next category up is called Invisalign Lite and this is limited to 14 sets of aligners. Cost here is £2650."


    The treatment includes teeth whitening it seems. which seems a bit of luxury I can do without.

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  • I have just written to the hospital asking them if this is going to throw a spanner in the works. If it is, I'll probably be left with no choice but to leave things as they are.
  • Nicki
    Nicki Posts: 8,166 Forumite
    I have just written to the hospital asking them if this is going to throw a spanner in the works. If it is, I'll probably be left with no choice but to leave things as they are.

    Apologies if I'm pointing out what you know already but you do know that teeth straightening (whether using Invisalign or anything else) is quite painful don't you? I know you already suffer from dental pain to a high degree.

    I didn't have underlying dental problems like yours and when I had Invisalign treatment and other orthodontic work I found it quite unpleasant for 4-5 days each time the retainer was changed (adjusted for non invisalign work) and had to modify what I ate. My son had occasionally to take painkillers when his train tracks were tightened and his gums were sometimes quite raw for a few days.
  • Toothsmith
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    edited 12 April 2018 at 8:58PM
    Was it a specialist orthodontist who gave you this opinion, or a general dentist who has done an Invisalign course?

    That 'opinion' reads like Invisalign marketing blurb more than a considered diagnosis of your problem and a balanced discussion of alternate treatments. It sounds like whoever has done it doesn't know which form of treatment will be necessary, and so will have to wait for the company to decide which treatment they sell you.

    You would get a much better opinion from a proper specialist orthodontist.
    How to find a dentist.
    1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
    2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
    3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
    4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.
  • GlasweJen
    GlasweJen Posts: 7,451 Forumite
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    I see, I suppose that isn't too bad considering the extent of your problem.
    I was completely oblivious until I went for the consultation, I obviously knew I couldn't bite sellotape or eat sandwiches or pizza like other people but I was just weird, I didn't think I needed jaw surgery.
    This is what a local orthodontist/dentist has said to me:

    "It sounds like Invisalign would be ideal to sort out your space with a view to having an implant.

    I7 is limited to 7 sets of aligners and if this is adequate to correct your spacing then all well and good. Cost is £1750 and includes a retainer at the end.

    If this is not enough correction then the next category up is called Invisalign Lite and this is limited to 14 sets of aligners. Cost here is £2650."


    The treatment includes teeth whitening it seems. which seems a bit of luxury I can do without.

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    That's weird, after my consultation I had seen my teeth on the computer with what it would look like at each stage and knew how many retainers I would need, well I'd seen the computer try and fail lol. I did see the results with train tracks and how it would look if I'd gone through with surgery. It's weird because my face has changed shape a bit just like the computer predicted though the gap between my top and bottom teeth is smaller than the computer thought I could achieve so that's good.

    Getting braces tightened is agony, I have cluster headaches and it was really sore when I was in cluster and being tightened up. Having to wax your red raw inside of your mouth is a whole new experience in the pain stakes.
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